Riddle me this...

WhoDat · 04-08-2003, 05:51 PM

Riddle me this... why didn't the Saints take a look at Rudd, Miller, or Holmes?

I brought up the Browns linebackers, all of whom were released early this off-season, months ago. As far as I can tell, the Saints didn't even consider any of these guys. Now, Tampa has signed Dwayne Rudd, and believe it has made thiem faster and more athletic. Granted, I know Rudd's an OLB, but c'mon... what are we doing here?

Supposedly, Ernie Conwell is supposed to be in NO tomorrow. Other than Gandy and the TJ talks, that's the only positive news I've heard all off-season. Let's see if they even make this guy an offer.

ssmitty · 04-08-2003, 07:37 PM

do you think linebacker is the most pressing issue? smitty

WhoDat · 04-08-2003, 08:10 PM

Yes. Corner and Safety are both other big areas of need... especially now that Knight is gone.

Still, Carter, Ambrose, Thomas, and Craver make a pretty decent secondary. Mitchell is a risk, but hopefully he works out. I still think the Saints will make a play for a FS, but otherwise that is as much a need as LB. Allen, Hodge, and Ruff make up a pretty big question mark though. I still think we need something more at LB.

rodjmaw · 04-08-2003, 08:41 PM

For once I agree with you Whodat, the saints should\'ve went after Dewayne Rudd.

BlackandBlue · 04-09-2003, 08:08 AM

Couldn\'t agree more. Something smells with this defense, and it\'s not just our DT corp. I\'m looking at our LB crew. I\'ll give Allen a shot, since he was a rookie last year, but I\'m not completely sold on Hodge. He has the makings, but doesn\'t seem too aggressive on the pass rush. And I would rather not get started on our MLB tandem again, I don\'t think my heart could take it.
With the addition of one more guy in this year\'s draft, our secondary will be very formidable 2-3 years down the road, mark my words. It\'s not great now, but it will be. With Knight gone, Mitchell is the hardest hitter on the team. If we could somehow pickup Newman/Trufant in the draft, I would love for the Saints to play \"kiss and make up\" with Knight and bring him back here. That way, we could draft a safety and groom him to take Knight\'s spot in a few years. I think with a healthy Carter, and another shutdown corner on the opposite side of the field, coupled with a decent pass rush, would return Knight to pro bowl status.

WhoDat · 04-09-2003, 10:46 AM

I just don\'t buy this logic of \"they have a plan and they\'re following that plan.\" Do you guys honestly think that coming into the off-season their plan was to find a no-name backup MLB whose history is sporatic at best and an older veteran whose lost a step at CB? That was their plan in January? And even if you believe it was, how can you say it was a good plan? With all the needs at D. With as bad as it was last season... how can you guys be behind a plan that makes our talent level WORSE on defense? Who cares if it\'s before the draft or after it. Taking steps backwards at any point is bad... to me at least.

pakowitz · 04-09-2003, 11:19 AM

im gonna throw a wrench into this convo..... this is ONLY speculation..... not a rumor, or anything, so dont take it literally, but what IF, the saints are holding off on signing a safety to see what kind of offers sammy knight is getting. just recently he hasnt had any huge offers and if he doesnt get the kind of $$ he thought he would get, he might consider coming back.

WhoDat · 04-09-2003, 11:56 AM

That\'s a possibility... but weren\'t they glad to see him go? After all, you could roll a big rock across the field faster than he could run across it right? Hey, I\'m all for keeping Knight, but does that mean moving Mitchell to FS? I like Knight a lot... I was one of the guys who wanted him to stay most. I just don\'t see it. They want someone with speed more than they want a hitter, and let\'s be honest, that\'s what Knight is. He\'s a hitter.

pakowitz · 04-09-2003, 12:01 PM

he is a hitter, but he is also a ball hawk, the man is always around the ball on every play

WhoDat · 04-09-2003, 12:06 PM

Can\'t argue that.

04-08-2003, 05:51 PM	#1
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Riddle me this... Riddle me this... why didn't the Saints take a look at Rudd, Miller, or Holmes? I brought up the Browns linebackers, all of whom were released early this off-season, months ago. As far as I can tell, the Saints didn't even consider any of these guys. Now, Tampa has signed Dwayne Rudd, and believe it has made thiem faster and more athletic. Granted, I know Rudd's an OLB, but c'mon... what are we doing here? Supposedly, Ernie Conwell is supposed to be in NO tomorrow. Other than Gandy and the TJ talks, that's the only positive news I've heard all off-season. Let's see if they even make this guy an offer.
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04-08-2003, 07:37 PM	#2
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	Riddle me this... do you think linebacker is the most pressing issue? smitty
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04-08-2003, 08:10 PM	#3
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Riddle me this... Yes. Corner and Safety are both other big areas of need... especially now that Knight is gone. Still, Carter, Ambrose, Thomas, and Craver make a pretty decent secondary. Mitchell is a risk, but hopefully he works out. I still think the Saints will make a play for a FS, but otherwise that is as much a need as LB. Allen, Hodge, and Ruff make up a pretty big question mark though. I still think we need something more at LB.
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04-08-2003, 08:41 PM	#4
rodjmaw 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 138	Riddle me this... For once I agree with you Whodat, the saints should\'ve went after Dewayne Rudd.
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04-09-2003, 08:08 AM	#5
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Riddle me this... Couldn\'t agree more. Something smells with this defense, and it\'s not just our DT corp. I\'m looking at our LB crew. I\'ll give Allen a shot, since he was a rookie last year, but I\'m not completely sold on Hodge. He has the makings, but doesn\'t seem too aggressive on the pass rush. And I would rather not get started on our MLB tandem again, I don\'t think my heart could take it. With the addition of one more guy in this year\'s draft, our secondary will be very formidable 2-3 years down the road, mark my words. It\'s not great now, but it will be. With Knight gone, Mitchell is the hardest hitter on the team. If we could somehow pickup Newman/Trufant in the draft, I would love for the Saints to play \"kiss and make up\" with Knight and bring him back here. That way, we could draft a safety and groom him to take Knight\'s spot in a few years. I think with a healthy Carter, and another shutdown corner on the opposite side of the field, coupled with a decent pass rush, would return Knight to pro bowl status.
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04-09-2003, 10:46 AM	#6
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Riddle me this... I just don\'t buy this logic of \"they have a plan and they\'re following that plan.\" Do you guys honestly think that coming into the off-season their plan was to find a no-name backup MLB whose history is sporatic at best and an older veteran whose lost a step at CB? That was their plan in January? And even if you believe it was, how can you say it was a good plan? With all the needs at D. With as bad as it was last season... how can you guys be behind a plan that makes our talent level WORSE on defense? Who cares if it\'s before the draft or after it. Taking steps backwards at any point is bad... to me at least.
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

04-09-2003, 11:19 AM	#7
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Riddle me this... im gonna throw a wrench into this convo..... this is ONLY speculation..... not a rumor, or anything, so dont take it literally, but what IF, the saints are holding off on signing a safety to see what kind of offers sammy knight is getting. just recently he hasnt had any huge offers and if he doesnt get the kind of $$ he thought he would get, he might consider coming back.

04-09-2003, 11:56 AM	#8
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Riddle me this... That\'s a possibility... but weren\'t they glad to see him go? After all, you could roll a big rock across the field faster than he could run across it right? Hey, I\'m all for keeping Knight, but does that mean moving Mitchell to FS? I like Knight a lot... I was one of the guys who wanted him to stay most. I just don\'t see it. They want someone with speed more than they want a hitter, and let\'s be honest, that\'s what Knight is. He\'s a hitter.
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04-09-2003, 12:01 PM	#9
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Riddle me this... he is a hitter, but he is also a ball hawk, the man is always around the ball on every play

04-09-2003, 12:06 PM	#10
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Riddle me this... Can\'t argue that.
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