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SFinAustin · 04-09-2003, 09:17 PM

They actually predict a trade up for Terence Newman! This one is from Glazer. The others are in the link.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/draft/mock

1. Cincinnati Bengals: Carson Palmer, QB, Southern California. There have been rumors of late that the Texans want to jump ahead of the Lions in order to grab Michigan State wideout Charles Rogers. Texans GM Charley Casserly refused comment to us regarding such a move. Is that a smokescreen or a hint?

2. Detroit Lions: Charles Rogers, WR, Michigan State. He's their guy, but remember last year the world was convinced that Detroit was taking CB Quentin Jammer. A lot can change between now and Draft Day.

3. Houston Texans: Andre Johnson, WR, Miami. Teams are split on the difference in talent between Johnson and Rogers. Houston shouldn't part with another pick to move up to grab the draft's No. 1 wideout. Stay put and take the other guy. They are also very high on Kansas State CB Terence Newman.

4. Chicago Bears: Dewayne Robertson, DT, Kentucky. May move down with either New Orleans, New England or possibly, although a long shot, the Jets. There is a good chance they will move.

5. New Orleans Saints (trade with Cowboys): Terence Newman, CB, Kansas State. Bill Parcells and Jerry Jones are hardly shy in making draft moves, so this seems like it would be a good fit. The Saints would love a starting quality corner and have two first-rounders to move up.

6. Arizona Cardinals: Terrell Suggs, DE, Arizona State. Cardinals have not bought into all the recent negative reports that have surrounded this outstanding pass rusher.

7. Minnesota Vikings: Jimmy Kennedy, DL, Penn State. They will make sure they have their card in on time this year.

8. Jacksonville Jaguars: Marcus Trufant, CB, Washington State. They are also linked to quarterbacks and offensive linemen.

9. Carolina Panthers: Jordan Gross, OT, Utah. Will go with either a lineman, their most pressing need, or corner.

10. Baltimore Ravens: Byron Leftwich, QB, Marshall. Head coach Brian Billick loves Cal's Kyle Boller, but Ozzie Newsome's staff loves Leftwich.

11. Seattle Seahawks: Johnathan Sullivan, DT, Georgia. Lost out on Hugh Douglas and signed DE Chike Okeafor, but would still like to add more punch to Ray Rhodes' unit.

12. St. Louis Rams: E.J. Henderson, LB, Maryland. Could go with Boss Bailey here instead.

13. New York Jets: Kevin Williams Oklahoma State, DT. Teams drafting in the top 10 told Jets they would talk about trading with them. But if they were to move up to grab a wideout, why didn't they just match the Laveranues Coles offer sheet? Will likely stay put as GM Terry Bradway says it's difficult to trade two players with first-round value for one.

14. New England Patriots: Kwame Harris, OT, Stanford. They have also called some early pick teams angling for their two picks to move up.

15. San Diego Chargers: Boss Bailey, LB, Georgia. Any LB they take will be tough as he'll immediately be compared by fans to Junior Seau.

16. Kansas City Chiefs: William Joseph, DT, Miami. Signed Vonnie Holliday and have last year's No. 1, Ryan Sims, returning from injury. But they would like to solidify a unit that needs more help.

17. Dallas Cowboys (from Saints): Kyle Boller, QB, California. They have been sniffing hard for a quarterback, but at No. 5 were too high to take their guy, Boller.

18. Dallas Cowboys (from Saints): Eric Steinbach, OG, Iowa. Parcells knows how important a solid offensive line is in building a winner.

19. New England Patriots: Jerome McDougle, DE, Miami. If they don't trade. If they can get him here, McDougle may thrive under Mr. Belichick and Mr. Crennel.

20. Denver Broncos: Michael Haynes, DE, Penn State. Need a pass rusher and a quarterback.

21. Cleveland Browns: Wayne Hunter, OT, Hawaii. They need to improve their offensive line.

22. New York Jets: Kelley Washington, WR, Tennessee. Past injury concerns seem to have evaporated with steaming hot postseason workouts.

23. Buffalo Bills: Chris Kelsay, DE, Nebraska. Another addition to defense would be helpful.

24. Indianapolis Colts: Dennis Weathersby, BB, Oregon State. Always looking to build up a defense that was helped immensely with last year's first-rounder, DE Dwight Freeney.

25. New York Giants: Kenny Peterson, DL, Ohio State. The Giants have said they want to add at least four defensive linemen through free agency and draft. They have three to go.

26. San Francisco 49ers: Dewayne White, DE, Louisville. Could also go with a wide receiver.

27. Pittsburgh Steelers: Chris Simms, QB, Texas. Some have them taking Florida QB Rex Grossman. A safety would also be a consideration if the draft's top safety prospect, USC's Troy Polamalu, is available.

28. Tennessee Titans: Taylor Jacobs, WR, Florida. Will go with best available player remaining regardless of position.

29. Green Bay Packers: Bryant Johnson, WR, Penn State. Green Bay has a lot of needs and areas it can upgrade. Quarterback, linebacker, DL, DB, OL are all considerations.

30. Philadelphia Eagles: Larry Johnson, RB, Penn State. They have a lot of bodies at the position already but only one proven constant in Duce Staley.

31. Oakland Raiders: Troy Polamalu, S, USC. One of the best defenders available in the draft but drops because of his position. They missed on Derrick Gibson a few years ago but shouldn't be scared off by that pick.

32. Oakland Raiders: Jeff Faine, C, Notre Dame. Will not be AWOL on eve of the Super Bowl.

BlackandBlue · 04-10-2003, 09:07 AM

Love to have Newman, but not at that price. Dennis has us picking Weathersby with the 18th, which I think is a reach, especially with names like Joseph, Witten, Faine, Long, and Polamalu still on the board. And Pete\'s prediction is the worst possible scenario for the Saints, with 11 of the 16 picks prior to NO being used on defensive players. I noticed on Pete\'s, though, he has EJ falling to the 2nd round, which makes no sense to me.

WhoDat · 04-10-2003, 09:47 AM

BOOO to that.

WhoDat · 04-10-2003, 01:22 PM

I don\'t know. I find it hard to believe that experts and novices alike keep suggesting that the Saints would give up two first rounders to move up into the top 5. Is it possible? Sure. But consider:

A. The Saints still have way too many holes to fill on defense to be giving up first round picks. I don\'t care if that\'s the 2nd pick in the draft or the 32nd. A first round pick is a first round pick and two are always better than one.

B. Haslett has basically come out and said, we\'re not going to move up unless the deal is really good. He OBVIOUSLY likes to stock his team through the draft, as opposd to free agency, so the likelihood of them moving up becomes smaller.

C. The Saints are cheap. Again, Haslett talked about the cost of signing a top five pick versus two later first rounders. It makes more sense for them not to move up financially as well as talent-wise (b/c two players in the top five at their position is better than one player who is in the top two at his position).

I don\'t know. This type of speculation just seems uninformed to me. If you want to take guesses at trades the Saints might make on draft day, why not talk about Tebucky, or them moving up from 17 to 10 or 12, just high enough to take Trufant? I just really don\'t see them parting with two numbers ones to move up 12 spots. A first and a third to move up five or so spots to take Trufant - that I can understand. But two number ones to take Newman? Let\'s hope not, b/c that\'s flat dumb.

And I think Haslett knows it. I mean, would anyone on this boad give up Grant and Stallworth for Champ Bailey or Charles Woodson? I wouldn\'t... especially when you still might be able to grab a guy like both of them AND another talented rookie for the cost of a Craver (3rd rounder).

04-09-2003, 09:17 PM	#1
SFinAustin 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 176	3 Mock Drafts by CBS Sportsline.com They actually predict a trade up for Terence Newman! This one is from Glazer. The others are in the link. http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/draft/mock 1. Cincinnati Bengals: Carson Palmer, QB, Southern California. There have been rumors of late that the Texans want to jump ahead of the Lions in order to grab Michigan State wideout Charles Rogers. Texans GM Charley Casserly refused comment to us regarding such a move. Is that a smokescreen or a hint? 2. Detroit Lions: Charles Rogers, WR, Michigan State. He's their guy, but remember last year the world was convinced that Detroit was taking CB Quentin Jammer. A lot can change between now and Draft Day. 3. Houston Texans: Andre Johnson, WR, Miami. Teams are split on the difference in talent between Johnson and Rogers. Houston shouldn't part with another pick to move up to grab the draft's No. 1 wideout. Stay put and take the other guy. They are also very high on Kansas State CB Terence Newman. 4. Chicago Bears: Dewayne Robertson, DT, Kentucky. May move down with either New Orleans, New England or possibly, although a long shot, the Jets. There is a good chance they will move. 5. New Orleans Saints (trade with Cowboys): Terence Newman, CB, Kansas State. Bill Parcells and Jerry Jones are hardly shy in making draft moves, so this seems like it would be a good fit. The Saints would love a starting quality corner and have two first-rounders to move up. 6. Arizona Cardinals: Terrell Suggs, DE, Arizona State. Cardinals have not bought into all the recent negative reports that have surrounded this outstanding pass rusher. 7. Minnesota Vikings: Jimmy Kennedy, DL, Penn State. They will make sure they have their card in on time this year. 8. Jacksonville Jaguars: Marcus Trufant, CB, Washington State. They are also linked to quarterbacks and offensive linemen. 9. Carolina Panthers: Jordan Gross, OT, Utah. Will go with either a lineman, their most pressing need, or corner. 10. Baltimore Ravens: Byron Leftwich, QB, Marshall. Head coach Brian Billick loves Cal's Kyle Boller, but Ozzie Newsome's staff loves Leftwich. 11. Seattle Seahawks: Johnathan Sullivan, DT, Georgia. Lost out on Hugh Douglas and signed DE Chike Okeafor, but would still like to add more punch to Ray Rhodes' unit. 12. St. Louis Rams: E.J. Henderson, LB, Maryland. Could go with Boss Bailey here instead. 13. New York Jets: Kevin Williams Oklahoma State, DT. Teams drafting in the top 10 told Jets they would talk about trading with them. But if they were to move up to grab a wideout, why didn't they just match the Laveranues Coles offer sheet? Will likely stay put as GM Terry Bradway says it's difficult to trade two players with first-round value for one. 14. New England Patriots: Kwame Harris, OT, Stanford. They have also called some early pick teams angling for their two picks to move up. 15. San Diego Chargers: Boss Bailey, LB, Georgia. Any LB they take will be tough as he'll immediately be compared by fans to Junior Seau. 16. Kansas City Chiefs: William Joseph, DT, Miami. Signed Vonnie Holliday and have last year's No. 1, Ryan Sims, returning from injury. But they would like to solidify a unit that needs more help. 17. Dallas Cowboys (from Saints): Kyle Boller, QB, California. They have been sniffing hard for a quarterback, but at No. 5 were too high to take their guy, Boller. 18. Dallas Cowboys (from Saints): Eric Steinbach, OG, Iowa. Parcells knows how important a solid offensive line is in building a winner. 19. New England Patriots: Jerome McDougle, DE, Miami. If they don't trade. If they can get him here, McDougle may thrive under Mr. Belichick and Mr. Crennel. 20. Denver Broncos: Michael Haynes, DE, Penn State. Need a pass rusher and a quarterback. 21. Cleveland Browns: Wayne Hunter, OT, Hawaii. They need to improve their offensive line. 22. New York Jets: Kelley Washington, WR, Tennessee. Past injury concerns seem to have evaporated with steaming hot postseason workouts. 23. Buffalo Bills: Chris Kelsay, DE, Nebraska. Another addition to defense would be helpful. 24. Indianapolis Colts: Dennis Weathersby, BB, Oregon State. Always looking to build up a defense that was helped immensely with last year's first-rounder, DE Dwight Freeney. 25. New York Giants: Kenny Peterson, DL, Ohio State. The Giants have said they want to add at least four defensive linemen through free agency and draft. They have three to go. 26. San Francisco 49ers: Dewayne White, DE, Louisville. Could also go with a wide receiver. 27. Pittsburgh Steelers: Chris Simms, QB, Texas. Some have them taking Florida QB Rex Grossman. A safety would also be a consideration if the draft's top safety prospect, USC's Troy Polamalu, is available. 28. Tennessee Titans: Taylor Jacobs, WR, Florida. Will go with best available player remaining regardless of position. 29. Green Bay Packers: Bryant Johnson, WR, Penn State. Green Bay has a lot of needs and areas it can upgrade. Quarterback, linebacker, DL, DB, OL are all considerations. 30. Philadelphia Eagles: Larry Johnson, RB, Penn State. They have a lot of bodies at the position already but only one proven constant in Duce Staley. 31. Oakland Raiders: Troy Polamalu, S, USC. One of the best defenders available in the draft but drops because of his position. They missed on Derrick Gibson a few years ago but shouldn't be scared off by that pick. 32. Oakland Raiders: Jeff Faine, C, Notre Dame. Will not be AWOL on eve of the Super Bowl.
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04-10-2003, 09:07 AM	#2
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	3 Mock Drafts by CBS Sportsline.com Love to have Newman, but not at that price. Dennis has us picking Weathersby with the 18th, which I think is a reach, especially with names like Joseph, Witten, Faine, Long, and Polamalu still on the board. And Pete\'s prediction is the worst possible scenario for the Saints, with 11 of the 16 picks prior to NO being used on defensive players. I noticed on Pete\'s, though, he has EJ falling to the 2nd round, which makes no sense to me.

04-10-2003, 09:47 AM	#3
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04-10-2003, 01:22 PM	#4
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	3 Mock Drafts by CBS Sportsline.com I don\'t know. I find it hard to believe that experts and novices alike keep suggesting that the Saints would give up two first rounders to move up into the top 5. Is it possible? Sure. But consider: A. The Saints still have way too many holes to fill on defense to be giving up first round picks. I don\'t care if that\'s the 2nd pick in the draft or the 32nd. A first round pick is a first round pick and two are always better than one. B. Haslett has basically come out and said, we\'re not going to move up unless the deal is really good. He OBVIOUSLY likes to stock his team through the draft, as opposd to free agency, so the likelihood of them moving up becomes smaller. C. The Saints are cheap. Again, Haslett talked about the cost of signing a top five pick versus two later first rounders. It makes more sense for them not to move up financially as well as talent-wise (b/c two players in the top five at their position is better than one player who is in the top two at his position). I don\'t know. This type of speculation just seems uninformed to me. If you want to take guesses at trades the Saints might make on draft day, why not talk about Tebucky, or them moving up from 17 to 10 or 12, just high enough to take Trufant? I just really don\'t see them parting with two numbers ones to move up 12 spots. A first and a third to move up five or so spots to take Trufant - that I can understand. But two number ones to take Newman? Let\'s hope not, b/c that\'s flat dumb. And I think Haslett knows it. I mean, would anyone on this boad give up Grant and Stallworth for Champ Bailey or Charles Woodson? I wouldn\'t... especially when you still might be able to grab a guy like both of them AND another talented rookie for the cost of a Craver (3rd rounder).
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