S Tebucky Jones finally a Saint!!!

WhoDat · 04-15-2003, 05:03 PM

That\'s exactly what I think B&B. That\'s what I said earlier too. C\'mon Gator, even I would be surprised and a little disappointed if the Saints gave Horn the contract he\'s talking about. Like I said, it\'s a negociating tactic. I think realistically the deal will look more like a 5 year contract at about $3 mill a year in salary and another $1-$2 million in signing bonus. So, in total closer to 5 years, $15 mill with a $10 mill signing bonus.

Of course, this is just my opinion and it\'s total speculation. I agree that we shouldn\'t enter anything too prohibitive with Horn. It just seems like you\'re willing to dump him if he doesn\'t want a contract that gives him little more than he\'s getting right now. I\'d rather the Saints move a little and give him SOME more money than lose him. Consider the alternative... Pathon, Stallworth and... Lewis? are no where even remotely close to the threat that Horn, Stallworth, and Pathon are.

It also seems like you\'re kind of playing the grass is greener on the other side role here Gator. I know you tend to like younger players (aka draftees) and you are... let\'s say \"frugal\". Yet, you like the TJ as a player and Conwell. Conwell is older than Horn... I think, off the top of my head... and TJ is only a year or two younger. My point is that you may be taking him for granted b/c A. he\'s here, and B. he\'s not a young guy like Stallworth.

I\'ll go out on a limb here... but if Horn is given a five year extension and he plays it out, I\'m betting that Stallworth will never catch him in terms of his numbers as a Saint. I really really like Stallworth. Hell, I have his jersey... and not Horn\'s... but the guy has had the same injury four out of the last five years. I can\'t Horn being more than a little banged up since he got here. Sure Stallworth is young and strong, but take it from a guys who has been injured the same way multiple times... that part of your body get\'s weaker. In fact, I even have the SAME problem Stallworth does. Hamstring problems. I\'ve torn or pulled that muscle four times. I becomes hard to go all out and lot reinjure it... especially in a contact sport like football. Let\'s just keep Horn\'s importance in sight. He\'s the best receiver we\'ve got. He is the MOST PROVEN weapon we\'ve got. Even with Deuce, Brooks, and Stallworth, he may be the post potent weapon on our offense... at least the top two or three over the next three seasons... pay him.

04-15-2003, 05:03 PM	#31
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	S Tebucky Jones finally a Saint!!! That\'s exactly what I think B&B. That\'s what I said earlier too. C\'mon Gator, even I would be surprised and a little disappointed if the Saints gave Horn the contract he\'s talking about. Like I said, it\'s a negociating tactic. I think realistically the deal will look more like a 5 year contract at about $3 mill a year in salary and another $1-$2 million in signing bonus. So, in total closer to 5 years, $15 mill with a $10 mill signing bonus. Of course, this is just my opinion and it\'s total speculation. I agree that we shouldn\'t enter anything too prohibitive with Horn. It just seems like you\'re willing to dump him if he doesn\'t want a contract that gives him little more than he\'s getting right now. I\'d rather the Saints move a little and give him SOME more money than lose him. Consider the alternative... Pathon, Stallworth and... Lewis? are no where even remotely close to the threat that Horn, Stallworth, and Pathon are. It also seems like you\'re kind of playing the grass is greener on the other side role here Gator. I know you tend to like younger players (aka draftees) and you are... let\'s say \"frugal\". Yet, you like the TJ as a player and Conwell. Conwell is older than Horn... I think, off the top of my head... and TJ is only a year or two younger. My point is that you may be taking him for granted b/c A. he\'s here, and B. he\'s not a young guy like Stallworth. I\'ll go out on a limb here... but if Horn is given a five year extension and he plays it out, I\'m betting that Stallworth will never catch him in terms of his numbers as a Saint. I really really like Stallworth. Hell, I have his jersey... and not Horn\'s... but the guy has had the same injury four out of the last five years. I can\'t Horn being more than a little banged up since he got here. Sure Stallworth is young and strong, but take it from a guys who has been injured the same way multiple times... that part of your body get\'s weaker. In fact, I even have the SAME problem Stallworth does. Hamstring problems. I\'ve torn or pulled that muscle four times. I becomes hard to go all out and lot reinjure it... especially in a contact sport like football. Let\'s just keep Horn\'s importance in sight. He\'s the best receiver we\'ve got. He is the MOST PROVEN weapon we\'ve got. Even with Deuce, Brooks, and Stallworth, he may be the post potent weapon on our offense... at least the top two or three over the next three seasons... pay him.
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