Horn speaks on a top pick

BlackandBlue · 12-30-2005, 10:22 AM

#1 pick, I'd trade down, but not outside the top 5 (see my Jets scenario from a previous thread).
Taking Quinn with the 4th overall pick would not hurt my feelings at all. I like the guidance he's received over the past year

#2 pick, take Leinart

saintswhodi · 12-30-2005, 10:50 AM

Well, Quinn isn't coming out this year, so it's Leinart or bust. #1 pick consider a trade down to #2 or #3. #2 pick, take Leinart.

Euphoria · 12-30-2005, 11:55 AM

I still don't see an improvement with Leinart... if you can get bush you get him! Concentrate building a line and D. After all if you want to rebuild this team and drafting a QB is basically what it means then lets build this team from the group up not up down. Build that line and D, specail teams will improve and then go after a couple of gems to fill in and grow. If you can't protect Leinart he's nothing.

D_it_up · 12-30-2005, 12:13 PM

And if you can't open holes for Bush, he's nothing as well. He'll have to off tackle every play just to try and utilize he's speed to get in the open. If the O-line isn't good enough to protect Leinart, then they aren't good enough for Bush to break free. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out. I would rather have someone like Leinart who is possibly one of the most polished, intelligent QB's I've ever seen coming out of college.

saintswhodi · 12-30-2005, 12:33 PM

You have to realize Euphoria is one of Brooks' biggest allies here. He doesn't want Leinart here cause then it truly means the Brooks era is over. So any option looks better, Bush when we already have Deuce and can't trade him, trading down, whatever. Whatever helps keep Brooks here. Once you realize that, you will realize it's fruitless to argue this with him.

lynwood · 12-30-2005, 01:07 PM

I say take either one. They will both help the team. If we don't get either one and we have a #1 or #2 pick i'd like to hear the excuses.

BlackandBlue · 12-30-2005, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

Well, Quinn isn't coming out this year, so it's Leinart or bust. #1 pick consider a trade down to #2 or #3. #2 pick, take Leinart.

Damn, did he say he wasn't coming out? Ehh, with some of the teams at the top of this draft, I can't say as I blame him.

D_it_up · 12-30-2005, 03:49 PM

I didn't realize Euphoria was a Brooks supporter. Guess I have been gone too long. I didn't think any of those people existed anymore.

BlackandBlue · 12-30-2005, 05:57 PM

Meant to post this earlier, you know you're poking the stick right now. Euph has been very civil, so let's knock the backhanded comments out, as it relates to a particular subject.

Winwin · 12-30-2005, 07:07 PM

You have to realize Euphoria is one of Brooks' biggest allies here. He doesn't want Leinart here cause then it truly means the Brooks era is over. So any option looks better, Bush when we already have Deuce and can't trade him, trading down, whatever. Whatever helps keep Brooks here. Once you realize that, you will realize it's fruitless to argue this with him.

i agree, let's get leinart. it's time for someone else to take over the team.

12-30-2005, 02:26 PM	#17
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Originally Posted by saintswhodi Well, Quinn isn't coming out this year, so it's Leinart or bust. #1 pick consider a trade down to #2 or #3. #2 pick, take Leinart. Damn, did he say he wasn't coming out? Ehh, with some of the teams at the top of this draft, I can't say as I blame him.

12-30-2005, 07:07 PM	#20
Winwin 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 332	You have to realize Euphoria is one of Brooks' biggest allies here. He doesn't want Leinart here cause then it truly means the Brooks era is over. So any option looks better, Bush when we already have Deuce and can't trade him, trading down, whatever. Whatever helps keep Brooks here. Once you realize that, you will realize it's fruitless to argue this with him. i agree, let's get leinart. it's time for someone else to take over the team.
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12-30-2005, 10:22 AM	#11
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	#1 pick, I'd trade down, but not outside the top 5 (see my Jets scenario from a previous thread). Taking Quinn with the 4th overall pick would not hurt my feelings at all. I like the guidance he's received over the past year #2 pick, take Leinart

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12-30-2005, 10:50 AM	#12
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Well, Quinn isn't coming out this year, so it's Leinart or bust. #1 pick consider a trade down to #2 or #3. #2 pick, take Leinart.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	I still don't see an improvement with Leinart... if you can get bush you get him! Concentrate building a line and D. After all if you want to rebuild this team and drafting a QB is basically what it means then lets build this team from the group up not up down. Build that line and D, specail teams will improve and then go after a couple of gems to fill in and grow. If you can't protect Leinart he's nothing.

12-30-2005, 12:13 PM	#14
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	And if you can't open holes for Bush, he's nothing as well. He'll have to off tackle every play just to try and utilize he's speed to get in the open. If the O-line isn't good enough to protect Leinart, then they aren't good enough for Bush to break free. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out. I would rather have someone like Leinart who is possibly one of the most polished, intelligent QB's I've ever seen coming out of college.

12-30-2005, 12:33 PM	#15
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	You have to realize Euphoria is one of Brooks' biggest allies here. He doesn't want Leinart here cause then it truly means the Brooks era is over. So any option looks better, Bush when we already have Deuce and can't trade him, trading down, whatever. Whatever helps keep Brooks here. Once you realize that, you will realize it's fruitless to argue this with him.

12-30-2005, 01:07 PM	#16
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	I say take either one. They will both help the team. If we don't get either one and we have a #1 or #2 pick i'd like to hear the excuses.

12-30-2005, 03:49 PM	#18
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	I didn't realize Euphoria was a Brooks supporter. Guess I have been gone too long. I didn't think any of those people existed anymore.

12-30-2005, 05:57 PM	#19
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Meant to post this earlier, you know you're poking the stick right now. Euph has been very civil, so let's knock the backhanded comments out, as it relates to a particular subject.