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AllSaints 01-05-2006 07:54 PM

yeah he sould of but he didnt get over it Leinart is better than Young and we are drafting Leinart so get happy !!!!

MordorIV 01-05-2006 07:55 PM

I'll take that bet that we do not. AJ HAWK!!!!

AllSaints 01-05-2006 07:58 PM

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH WE TAKE AJ HAWK WE ARE STUPID IDIOTS I MEAN THAT DUMB !!!!

OMG NEVER...!!!!

AllSaints 01-05-2006 07:59 PM

LEINART LEINART LEINART HE IS THE SAINTS he will be the saints he will be wats best for this team !!

MordorIV 01-05-2006 08:01 PM

Whats best if you stop yelling it's making the saints cry.

AllSaints 01-05-2006 08:03 PM

ha well is this better leinart is wat the saints need screw lb we need a qb and its lienart we dont get him we are screwed for the ages ..... is that better there sissy pants ROFL

ok im gone g2g talk about this more later.....

CheramieIII 01-05-2006 08:05 PM

Have a good one Allsaints and see ya back soon.

You got the fire! :08:

MordorIV 01-05-2006 08:10 PM

He's got the FIREEEEEEE :08:

BlackandBlue 01-05-2006 08:39 PM

I'm going to flag this thread, so we can revisit it a year from now. Should be interesting...

All I ask is this- when the Saints draft Lienart, and they will, would it be too much to ask to bring in either Kitna or Dilfer in here as well, to drive the bus for a year or two? I don't want Lienart to set foot on the field his first year, unless it's junk time when we're losing late in the season.

MordorIV 01-05-2006 08:40 PM

Agree with you BandB. thanks for the flag this thread is fun.

CheramieIII 01-05-2006 08:53 PM

I agree we need a veteran, with whomever we draft and QB.

MordorIV 01-05-2006 09:47 PM

Go brees.

JOESAM2002 01-05-2006 09:58 PM

This is all truly amazing to me. This happens every year.

Why do we always get on here and try to compare apples to oranges? Young and Leinert are nothing alike. One is a scrambler and the other is a pocket passer. Seems to me that each one has their own abilities. Both will be good in certain situations. None will be great in the wrong one. All these guys did was give us a great game. One for the ages. If I had my choice, I'd hate to be the one to have to pick one or the other. It depends on the system and the coaching. Both will be very good, given the chance.

MordorIV 01-05-2006 09:59 PM

Good post Joe.

GoldenTomb 01-05-2006 10:27 PM

LOL I guess i'm the only one here on the Omar Jacobs bandwagon.

He'll soon be getting publicity, come combine time.

I actually hope V. Young goes first so we get Reggie Bush. We'd have two legit targets for a veteran QB to throw to, since Joe Horn appears to be regressing. He can line up with Deuce in the backfield, and return kickoffs w/Michael Lewis.

If we have a shot at Bush forget Leinart AND Young. Omar Jacobs can be had in the second or third round.

CheramieIII 01-05-2006 10:34 PM

Hey GT, no you're not the only one. Look at my mock in First and Gold. I think we can get Omar with our first pick in the second round and it should be a no brainer. We let him and AMAC battle for 2nd string and get a veteran for the next 2 or 3 years until either one steps up as the leader.

CheramieIII 01-05-2006 10:37 PM

Lee Corso just gave his top five college teams for 2006:

1. Texas
2. Ohio State
3. USC
4. LSU
5. West Virginia

and the other guy had the same with the exception of LSU he put Notre Dame in the 4th spot.

GoldenTomb 01-05-2006 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII
Lee Corso just gave his top five college teams for 2006:

1. Texas
2. Ohio State
3. USC
4. LSU
5. West Virginia

and the other guy had the same with the exception of LSU he put Notre Dame in the 4th spot.

Yeah I just saw that too. Herbstreit doesn't like LSU. He picked them to lose every big game this year but the SEC Championship, and that's probably only because he was wrong all of those other times.

TheDeuce 01-06-2006 03:01 AM

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vince young is as classy as he is talented.
How is he classy? This guy is borderline legally mentally handicapped and from what I've heard from him he has no class and no respect for the game. When asked who would be the best UT player ever, among choices such as Eric Dickerson, Vince Young straight-faced said "Me." He's an arrogant ass. The reporter thought he was joking, and then had to ask him if he was serious. I don't want that kind of crap on my team. I want somebody who has respect for his team, his school, and the game itself. I also want somebody who can read at at least a freshman level, which VY can't. Last time I checked, speaking ebonics and not being able to do long division shouldn't allow you to complete a higher education at an American university. But I guess that's why he's at UT, where they only graduate 40% of their players. This guy is retarded, and although talented, he's not worthy of the hype. He had one good game against a mediocre defense. DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE.

BlackandBlue 01-06-2006 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDeuce
Quote:

vince young is as classy as he is talented.
How is he classy? This guy is borderline legally mentally handicapped and from what I've heard from him he has no class and no respect for the game. When asked who would be the best UT player ever, among choices such as Eric Dickerson, Vince Young straight-faced said "Me." He's an arrogant ass. The reporter thought he was joking, and then had to ask him if he was serious.

Dickerson went to SMU, not UT.

spkb25 01-06-2006 07:08 AM

golden tomb i love omar

Tobias-Reiper 01-06-2006 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDeuce
Quote:

vince young is as classy as he is talented.
How is he classy? This guy is borderline legally mentally handicapped and from what I've heard from him he has no class and no respect for the game. When asked who would be the best UT player ever, among choices such as Eric Dickerson, Vince Young straight-faced said "Me." He's an arrogant ass. The reporter thought he was joking, and then had to ask him if he was serious. I don't want that kind of crap on my team. I want somebody who has respect for his team, his school, and the game itself. I also want somebody who can read at at least a freshman level, which VY can't. Last time I checked, speaking ebonics and not being able to do long division shouldn't allow you to complete a higher education at an American university. But I guess that's why he's at UT, where they only graduate 40% of their players. This guy is retarded, and although talented, he's not worthy of the hype. He had one good game against a mediocre defense. DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE.

Hate to break it to you, but he's right. Don't know how many Longhorns are in the NFL HOF, but it's not about the NFL, is about college football, and other than RW breaking the yardage record in 1998, there aren't many Longhorns that stand out nationally for what they accomplishedin college. I bet any UT alumni would agree with Young.

gandhi1007 01-06-2006 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Winwin
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vince young is being said to favor montana



Are you serious? The guy has a monster COLLEGE game and now he's Joe Montana? Give me a break! Alcoholic, I would suggest laying off the booze until after the draft, LOL. Seriously though, Vince will get hurt quick if he pulls that kind of sh*/ in the NFL. There are guys just dying for a not so fast QB to try & pull that off, so they can unload on their butts!!!!!!

As for the "Leinhart is classless" thing. It takes a lot to go to another teams locker room during their celebration & say "Hey Congrats!" This is especially tough after that other teams QB (Vince Young) taunted USC fans post game with remarks like "Who's the real Heismann?" Not to mention the classless ass he made of himself with the crystal football. But, the consensus is Leinhart's the classless one. GO FIGURE???? :roll: :roll: :roll:

It may be just me, but I kinda' like the thought of a QB who gets pissed off when he loses. It beats the hell out of someone who smiles & laughs about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8) 8) 8)

saintswhodi 01-06-2006 09:08 AM

To those touting Omar Jacobs, no thanks. We have A-Mac already for what he does. I know it's cool to pick out the big name guy at the small colleges who shine, but i'll pass. Jacobs is not a franchise QB. No thanks. Good player, don't get me wrong. But a choice between him and a franchise QB is no choice.

yasoon 01-06-2006 10:16 AM

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How is he classy? This guy is borderline legally mentally handicapped and from what I've heard from him he has no class and no respect for the game. When asked who would be the best UT player ever, among choices such as Eric Dickerson, Vince Young straight-faced said "Me." He's an arrogant ass. The reporter thought he was joking, and then had to ask him if he was serious. I don't want that kind of crap on my team. I want somebody who has respect for his team, his school, and the game itself. I also want somebody who can read at at least a freshman level, which VY can't. Last time I checked, speaking ebonics and not being able to do long division shouldn't allow you to complete a higher education at an American university. But I guess that's why he's at UT, where they only graduate 40% of their players. This guy is retarded, and although talented, he's not worthy of the hype. He had one good game against a mediocre defense. DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE.
Dude.....are you serious? Show me a guy that scores the game winning TD in a Title game with as much class as Young did the other night. There is no showboating on the field, just poise and leadership. Yes, he dances with his teammates...but he is strictly business on the field.

And the fact that you included dickerson is alarming. Earl Campbell comes to mind. Ricky Williams. Other than that....who are you gonna take from UT?

Read at a freshman level? He was the highest rated QB in college this year.

I am not convinced that he will be a good pro for 2 reasons:
-his throwing motion
-the spread offense that he thrived in

But, i watched him carve up my wolverines last year and I watched the title game this year. Probably the best 2 rose bowl games EVER by a player and I'm a big 10 guy. And....after every TD he's back on the bench ready to do it again. No showboating...just pure leadership and ability. When they went down 12, you could look in his eyes and see he was ready to get it done.

You can call out Young as hype for alot of reasons that I would agree with. No one game has ever influenced a guy's draft status like this.

But to call Vince Young classless and retarded is, well....classless and retarded.

I'm not a UT fan at all. But, I do root for this kid. Do me a favor and google "vince young"+"gang" and read the dallas paper article about young and then you can come back here and tell me how classless he is.

AllSaints 01-06-2006 10:26 AM

I think thats a good idea the whole getting a Veteren QB who has stared in the league more than 5 times haha and let him start the first few games not the whole seaosn i think that stupid we have to start leinart when we draft him mabe not right off but like maybe week 5 or something im not for the whole benching thingy i dont want this to be like a whole Philip Rivers deal.....

AllSaints 01-06-2006 10:27 AM

But WE HAVE TO DRAFT LEINART !!!! THIS IS A MUST>>!!!!>>!!!>>!!!

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But Matt Leinart not Vince Young.....


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