Anyone else think Vince Young

BrooksMustGo · 01-05-2006, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Whodi, I'm not saying he blows, not at all... I'm just saying he is not that impressive a QB considering what he's got around him.

You have to admit, he's got a weak arm,a nd seems lil' fragile. He has to put a lot on a throw to go 30+yards.

As for stats, I can bring up Chris Weinke's stats, or Torretta's for that matter , whose Hurricanes went undefeated for 2 seasons...

I may very well be wrong, but my feel is that he is not going to be very good in the NFL.

TR, I think you have a very valid point. We need to think carefully before drafting a guy whose limitations might make him a bad value at #2.

I was thinking about the "body of work" argument this morning and don't think I understand it either.

Leinert had 1 loss this season and posted these numbers.
283 completions on 431 attemtpts for a percentage of 65.7.
He threw for 3815 yards, 28 TD's and 8 picks.

Jason White in 2004 had 1 loss.
255 completions on 390 attempts for a percentage of 65.4.
He threw for 3205 yards, 35 TD's and 9 picks.

Both guys had a highly successful body of work with comparable numbers and very few losses. Both guys were supposed to be really smart and both had questionable arm strength and mobility.
Both guys had durability concerns.
Both guys had a super talented supporting cast.
But 1 guy is worth the 2nd overall pick and the other shouldn't even be a backup in the pros?

I'm not sure I get this. Leinert seems to be like White with more ego and media love. When I was looking at Leinert last night, I just don't see a substantial difference from White.

Now I'm not saying that we should take Vince Young either. (Even though I disagree with comparing him to Vick.) I just can't justify making an enormous financial investment in Leinert at #2.

01-05-2006, 11:07 AM	#11
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Whodi, I'm not saying he blows, not at all... I'm just saying he is not that impressive a QB considering what he's got around him. You have to admit, he's got a weak arm,a nd seems lil' fragile. He has to put a lot on a throw to go 30+yards. As for stats, I can bring up Chris Weinke's stats, or Torretta's for that matter , whose Hurricanes went undefeated for 2 seasons... I may very well be wrong, but my feel is that he is not going to be very good in the NFL. TR, I think you have a very valid point. We need to think carefully before drafting a guy whose limitations might make him a bad value at #2. I was thinking about the "body of work" argument this morning and don't think I understand it either. Leinert had 1 loss this season and posted these numbers. 283 completions on 431 attemtpts for a percentage of 65.7. He threw for 3815 yards, 28 TD's and 8 picks. Jason White in 2004 had 1 loss. 255 completions on 390 attempts for a percentage of 65.4. He threw for 3205 yards, 35 TD's and 9 picks. Both guys had a highly successful body of work with comparable numbers and very few losses. Both guys were supposed to be really smart and both had questionable arm strength and mobility. Both guys had durability concerns. Both guys had a super talented supporting cast. But 1 guy is worth the 2nd overall pick and the other shouldn't even be a backup in the pros? I'm not sure I get this. Leinert seems to be like White with more ego and media love. When I was looking at Leinert last night, I just don't see a substantial difference from White. Now I'm not saying that we should take Vince Young either. (Even though I disagree with comparing him to Vick.) I just can't justify making an enormous financial investment in Leinert at #2.
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