Anyone else think Vince Young

jrmllb · 01-05-2006, 09:35 AM

I agree cut the guy some slack...if LSU had not been able to stop Danny white two years ago one of our guys would have said I think we had the better team, and we all would have thought he was right...

Whoever the person was on this site that said he's too "raw" is also jsut regurgitating some column he read on profootball.com...VY is the real deal...Lead the nation in passing effeciency...That's not a misprint folks

I am not sure we should draft him if he comes out though...We alrady have a great running qb that has a very accurate arm in A-Mac...Look at his stats I think A-Mac is very close to what we see with Young...I say we trade down a spot or two and take D'Brick to shore up the O-Line or take AJ Hawk in the first round

Tobias-Reiper · 01-05-2006, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by jrmllb

I am not sure we should draft him if he comes out though...We alrady have a great running qb that has a very accurate arm in A-Mac...Look at his stats I think A-Mac is very close to what we see with Young...I say we trade down a spot or two and take D'Brick to shore up the O-Line or take AJ Hawk in the first round

Uh??? Adrian played in how many games? How many national championships?

Hey, I like Adrian, but he's not Young.

LordOfEntropy · 01-05-2006, 09:43 AM

So he was in their looker room congratulating Longhorns after the game? I didn't know that, but I'm glad to hear it.

Whatever happens, no matter how me manage to screw up the draft, that was a great game to watch. Helluva game.

saintswhodi · 01-05-2006, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo

Uh, by the way, just heard Leinert's post game. Classless. I've had enough of one primadonna to go drafting another one.

Vince Young is the man, would be a fabulous pick.

Um, and Vince Young was making the Heisman pose after the game? Huh? Leinart said they couldn't get a stop when they needed it. What part was untrue?

saintswhodi · 01-05-2006, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

Basically he said that the defense didn't tackle Vince Young and that is why they lost and that USC is clearly the better team. He showed no respect for what Texas accomplished. I think he was mad that Young clearly out played him!

Zero Class.

Sounded like he's been reading his own press about being the "greatest of all time" crap. He needed to sack up and like a man admit that he got beaten. Nothing like laying the blame on another unit of the team, that's some leadership to draft onto your team.

It was a postgame interview worthy of Aaron Brooks. It ranks right up there with AB's "I'm a great QB on an average team" interview.

Mr. Zero Class went into the locker room and congratulated the Longhorns on the win. Worthy of Aaron Brooks? Okay. The guy has a Heisman and 1.5 national titles, and is regarded as the best College QB of all time, as opposed to an average chump who has done NTOHING at any level. Come off it.

Tobias-Reiper · 01-05-2006, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by BlackandBlue

I can't believe the outcry after one game to draft Young. He looked awesome, but he will get killed running like that in the NFL. I'm more impressed with what Lienart did against Texas' defense, than Young did against USC's.

I'm more impressed with what LenDale White did against the Texas D than what Leinart did... Throwing floaters to 6''5" WR's and hand the ball to White or Bush, I don't think that's very impressive.

As for Young, like you said before, "body of work".. this guy carried this Texas team through and through the whole season and showed up huge in the biggest game... maybe his body of work this year was overshadowed by the media, since it was "USC all the time" since the summer.

saintswhodi · 01-05-2006, 09:53 AM

I'm more impressed with what LenDale White did against the Texas D than what Leinart did... Throwing floaters to 6''5" WR's and hand the ball to White or Bush, I don't think that's very impressive.

What a load of crap. Not liking the guy is one thing, blatantly making stuff up is another. In the second half, on the first two scoring drives, Leinart's passing put them in range for White to make TD runs from inside the 10. On the third drive it was all the running game. On the fourth drive it was all Leinart's arm. At one point in the second half, he was 14/15 with 182 yards and a TD. Get real. On the game he was 29-40, for 365 yards 1 TD 1 INT against UT's defense. Yeah he blows.

Tobias-Reiper · 01-05-2006, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

I'm more impressed with what LenDale White did against the Texas D than what Leinart did... Throwing floaters to 6''5" WR's and hand the ball to White or Bush, I don't think that's very impressive.

What a load of crap. Not liking the guy is one thing, blatantly making stuff up is another. In the second half, on the first two scoring drives, Leinart's passing put them in range for White to make TD runs from inside the 10. On the third drive it was all the running game. On the fourth drive it was all Leinart's arm. At one point in the second half, he was 14/15 with 182 yards and a TD. Get real. On the game he was 29-40, for 365 yards 1 TD 1 INT against UT's defense. Yeah he blows.

Whodi, I'm not saying he blows, not at all... I'm just saying he is not that impressive a QB considering what he's got around him.

You have to admit, he's got a weak arm,a nd seems lil' fragile. He has to put a lot on a throw to go 30+yards.

As for stats, I can bring up Chris Weinke's stats, or Torretta's for that matter

, whose Hurricanes went undefeated for 2 seasons...

I may very well be wrong, but my feel is that he is not going to be very good in the NFL.

saintswhodi · 01-05-2006, 10:54 AM

I may very well be wrong

That's an understatement. :P

LordOfEntropy · 01-05-2006, 10:57 AM

We'll see.

01-05-2006, 09:35 AM	#41
jrmllb 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Posts: 665	I agree cut the guy some slack...if LSU had not been able to stop Danny white two years ago one of our guys would have said I think we had the better team, and we all would have thought he was right... Whoever the person was on this site that said he's too "raw" is also jsut regurgitating some column he read on profootball.com...VY is the real deal...Lead the nation in passing effeciency...That's not a misprint folks I am not sure we should draft him if he comes out though...We alrady have a great running qb that has a very accurate arm in A-Mac...Look at his stats I think A-Mac is very close to what we see with Young...I say we trade down a spot or two and take D'Brick to shore up the O-Line or take AJ Hawk in the first round
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01-05-2006, 09:40 AM	#42
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by jrmllb I am not sure we should draft him if he comes out though...We alrady have a great running qb that has a very accurate arm in A-Mac...Look at his stats I think A-Mac is very close to what we see with Young...I say we trade down a spot or two and take D'Brick to shore up the O-Line or take AJ Hawk in the first round Uh??? Adrian played in how many games? How many national championships? Hey, I like Adrian, but he's not Young.

01-05-2006, 09:45 AM	#44
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo Uh, by the way, just heard Leinert's post game. Classless. I've had enough of one primadonna to go drafting another one. Vince Young is the man, would be a fabulous pick. Um, and Vince Young was making the Heisman pose after the game? Huh? Leinart said they couldn't get a stop when they needed it. What part was untrue?

01-05-2006, 09:48 AM	#45
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo Originally Posted by Rsanders24 Basically he said that the defense didn't tackle Vince Young and that is why they lost and that USC is clearly the better team. He showed no respect for what Texas accomplished. I think he was mad that Young clearly out played him! Zero Class. Sounded like he's been reading his own press about being the "greatest of all time" crap. He needed to sack up and like a man admit that he got beaten. Nothing like laying the blame on another unit of the team, that's some leadership to draft onto your team. It was a postgame interview worthy of Aaron Brooks. It ranks right up there with AB's "I'm a great QB on an average team" interview. Mr. Zero Class went into the locker room and congratulated the Longhorns on the win. Worthy of Aaron Brooks? Okay. The guy has a Heisman and 1.5 national titles, and is regarded as the best College QB of all time, as opposed to an average chump who has done NTOHING at any level. Come off it.

01-05-2006, 09:48 AM	#46
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by BlackandBlue I can't believe the outcry after one game to draft Young. He looked awesome, but he will get killed running like that in the NFL. I'm more impressed with what Lienart did against Texas' defense, than Young did against USC's. I'm more impressed with what LenDale White did against the Texas D than what Leinart did... Throwing floaters to 6''5" WR's and hand the ball to White or Bush, I don't think that's very impressive. As for Young, like you said before, "body of work".. this guy carried this Texas team through and through the whole season and showed up huge in the biggest game... maybe his body of work this year was overshadowed by the media, since it was "USC all the time" since the summer.

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01-05-2006, 09:43 AM	#43
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	So he was in their looker room congratulating Longhorns after the game? I didn't know that, but I'm glad to hear it. Whatever happens, no matter how me manage to screw up the draft, that was a great game to watch. Helluva game.

01-05-2006, 09:53 AM	#47
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I'm more impressed with what LenDale White did against the Texas D than what Leinart did... Throwing floaters to 6''5" WR's and hand the ball to White or Bush, I don't think that's very impressive. What a load of crap. Not liking the guy is one thing, blatantly making stuff up is another. In the second half, on the first two scoring drives, Leinart's passing put them in range for White to make TD runs from inside the 10. On the third drive it was all the running game. On the fourth drive it was all Leinart's arm. At one point in the second half, he was 14/15 with 182 yards and a TD. Get real. On the game he was 29-40, for 365 yards 1 TD 1 INT against UT's defense. Yeah he blows.

01-05-2006, 10:30 AM	#48
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by saintswhodi I'm more impressed with what LenDale White did against the Texas D than what Leinart did... Throwing floaters to 6''5" WR's and hand the ball to White or Bush, I don't think that's very impressive. What a load of crap. Not liking the guy is one thing, blatantly making stuff up is another. In the second half, on the first two scoring drives, Leinart's passing put them in range for White to make TD runs from inside the 10. On the third drive it was all the running game. On the fourth drive it was all Leinart's arm. At one point in the second half, he was 14/15 with 182 yards and a TD. Get real. On the game he was 29-40, for 365 yards 1 TD 1 INT against UT's defense. Yeah he blows. Whodi, I'm not saying he blows, not at all... I'm just saying he is not that impressive a QB considering what he's got around him. You have to admit, he's got a weak arm,a nd seems lil' fragile. He has to put a lot on a throw to go 30+yards. As for stats, I can bring up Chris Weinke's stats, or Torretta's for that matter , whose Hurricanes went undefeated for 2 seasons... I may very well be wrong, but my feel is that he is not going to be very good in the NFL.
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01-05-2006, 10:54 AM	#49
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I may very well be wrong That's an understatement. :P

01-05-2006, 10:57 AM	#50
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	We'll see.