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Winwin 01-05-2006 04:48 PM

vince young is the best qb.
 
showed it again last night. right now if he comes out, he's probably the first player taken. leinart looked lost and couldn't read a defense, poor arm awful throws. vince young single-handedly beat a entire team by himself, he's already better than leinart with less experience he has to be the saints choice if they stay at 2nd.

TheDeuce 01-05-2006 05:26 PM

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leinart looked lost and couldn't read a defense, poor arm awful throws.
Did you even watch the USC offense last night? He struggled a little bit in the first half, but then he hit something like 13 straight passes. He finished 29/40 for 365 yards with 1 TD and 1 Int. That's lost and unpolished? If completing 72.5% of your passes for an average of 12.6 yards per completion looks unpolished then there's something wrong with you. I don't want to take anything away from Vince Young, because he played an unbelievable game, but USC's defense is not very good. Also, you say he is so much better than Leinart? I don't know. He had a ton of yards on the ground, but his passing stats weren't any more impressive than Leinart's. In fact, he was 30/40 for 97 less yards and no touchdowns. So, yeah I'll give VY credit, he sure can make things happen on the ground. But I also don't think he would be able to just run around untouched by an NFL defense like he did against USC's porous defense. I also know that he's not as good of a passer as Leinart. That's a fact. Leinart will be a better NFL quarterback.

MordorIV 01-05-2006 06:37 PM

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Vince might be the best but he will not come out this 06 draft he will i think stay in and finsh his last year, unless it's over money.

petejg24 01-05-2006 06:46 PM

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I think he stays in college, I think we are being a little hard on Leinart, I still believe he will be the better NFL qb down the line. Either QB would be an upgrade.

turbo_dog 01-05-2006 06:48 PM

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leinart looked lost and couldn't read a defense, poor arm awful throws.
Did you even watch the USC offense last night? He struggled a little bit in the first half, but then he hit something like 13 straight passes. He finished 29/40 for 365 yards with 1 TD and 1 Int. That's lost and unpolished? If completing 72.5% of your passes for an average of 12.6 yards per completion looks unpolished then there's something wrong with you. I don't want to take anything away from Vince Young, because he played an unbelievable game, but USC's defense is not very good. Also, you say he is so much better than Leinart? I don't know. He had a ton of yards on the ground, but his passing stats weren't any more impressive than Leinart's. In fact, he was 30/40 for 97 less yards and no touchdowns. So, yeah I'll give VY credit, he sure can make things happen on the ground. But I also don't think he would be able to just run around untouched by an NFL defense like he did against USC's porous defense. I also know that he's not as good of a passer as Leinart. That's a fact. Leinart will be a better NFL quarterback.

Almost exactly what I was thinking, Deuce. I've also heard about Leinart's weak arm, but it looked pretty good to me. I saw him throw a couple of 25 - 30 yard passes that were strikes. He may not be able to throw a 70 yard pass, but neither could Joe Montana.

That being said, the Longhorns wouldn't have been within two touchdowns of winning without Vince Young.

CheramieIII 01-05-2006 07:20 PM

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That being said, the Longhorns wouldn't have been within two touchdowns of winning without Vince Young.
and the Trojans wouldn't have even been in the championship game without Leinhart and Bush. Damn I see how this works now. If Texas won because of Young and USC couldn't stop him doesn't that just make
them the better team.

Come on TD, I have never said Leinhart was crap but give Texas some respect.

Keith Jackson and Fouts stated with 2:20 left on the clock and 4th down for USC at the Texas 45, that Leinhart has the option by the direction of Pete Carroll to either attempt to draw the opponents offsides or take the snap. If he would have not taken the snap and USC would have punted they had alot better chance of winning the game, with Texas having to go the long field and not just 55 yards. With 8 seconds left on the clock and a chance to get into field goal range, don't ya think Leinhart should have thrown the ball out of bounds are into the ground for that matter to stop the clock to at least give them another play.

I saw Young drive his team with 2 minutes left on the clock to the winning touchdown on 4th down, no less and he ran it in, no less.

So I guess in a way you are saying that Young was the better player, cuz he single handedly beat USC.

Sorry, I guess I do agree with ya!

AllSaints 01-05-2006 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Winwin
showed it again last night. right now if he comes out, he's probably the first player taken. leinart looked lost and couldn't read a defense, poor arm awful throws. vince young single-handedly beat a entire team by himself, he's already better than leinart with less experience he has to be the saints choice if they stay at 2nd.

OMG !!!! ARE YOU TOTALLY INSANE !!!!!

HES ALREADY BETTER THAN LEINART WHY TELL ME WHY PLEASE....

LEINART IS A BETTER QB THAN VINCE AND YOUR A COMPLETE IDIOT TO TAKE YOUNG FIRST LEINART IS THE BEST QB HANDS DOWN SURE VINCE IS A GREAT ATHELETE BUT LEINART IS A BETTER QB !!!!!!!

Winwin 01-05-2006 07:32 PM

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OMG !!!! ARE YOU TOTALLY INSANE !!!!!

HES ALREADY BETTER THAN LEINART WHY TELL ME WHY PLEASE....

LEINART IS A BETTER QB THAN VINCE AND YOUR A COMPLETE IDIOT TO TAKE YOUNG FIRST LEINART IS THE BEST QB HANDS DOWN SURE VINCE IS A GREAT ATHELETE BUT LEINART IS A BETTER QB !!!!!!!
if leinart is the better qb, playing with the most talented offense then why did vince young beat him? why did bush have to push the to victory over notre dame?

vince young "omg" beat leinart in leinart backyard get that through your head, now make excuses about usc's poor defense. that defense wasn't poor during the season until they met the football god vince young, he made them look piss poor.

CheramieIII 01-05-2006 07:32 PM

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Hey Allsaints, take the caps off please, pretty please and refrain from the name calling. You can go postal if you want to, just do it civily.

Thank you for your support.

MordorIV 01-05-2006 07:41 PM

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Please calm down allsaints this is just posting, not WWII man...

turbo_dog 01-05-2006 08:06 PM

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Hey Cheramie, are you taking anything for the multiple personality disorder? (Just a joke)

I started reading your reply and as I got towards the bottom I noticed you were making my point for me. Then I read the end and seriously choked on the fish stick I was eating. It takes guts to leave that and post it instead of deleting the first part.

CheramieIII 01-05-2006 08:09 PM

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I'm known for me guts. Hey TD, I usually agree with ya on most stuff, but sometimes you are just out there dude and how did you know I didn't take my pills? lol

saintswhodi 01-05-2006 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Winwin
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OMG !!!! ARE YOU TOTALLY INSANE !!!!!

HES ALREADY BETTER THAN LEINART WHY TELL ME WHY PLEASE....

LEINART IS A BETTER QB THAN VINCE AND YOUR A COMPLETE IDIOT TO TAKE YOUNG FIRST LEINART IS THE BEST QB HANDS DOWN SURE VINCE IS A GREAT ATHELETE BUT LEINART IS A BETTER QB !!!!!!!
if leinart is the better qb, playing with the most talented offense then why did vince young beat him? why did bush have to push the to victory over notre dame?

vince young "omg" beat leinart in leinart backyard get that through your head, now make excuses about usc's poor defense. that defense wasn't poor during the season until they met the football god vince young, he made them look piss poor.

Um, not so smart guy, that defense gave up almost 50 points to Fresno State. They also had a couple of 40 point and 30 point games in there through the season, against weak teams. USC had to outscore everyone early. Once again you don't know what you are saying. That defense was poor ALL season.

MordorIV 01-05-2006 08:11 PM

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GO Cheramie. HAHAHAHA Take yo Pills D.

TheDeuce 01-05-2006 09:05 PM

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that defense wasn't poor during the season until they met the football god vince young, he made them look piss poor.
Perhaps the dumbest thing I've heard today.

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Um, not so smart guy, that defense gave up almost 50 points to Fresno State. They also had a couple of 40 point and 30 point games in there through the season, against weak teams. USC had to outscore everyone early. Once again you don't know what you are saying. That defense was poor ALL season.
Thank you Whodi.

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vince young "omg" beat leinart in leinart backyard get that through your head
What's he supposed to get through his head? Does Matt Leinart play defense? How did VY beat Leinart? VY beat the USC defense, which as Whodi mentioned, is piss poor. So no, Vince didn't beat Matt, he beat a mediocre defense; while Matt Leinart beat a very good defense for 365 yards and a score.

BlackandBlue 01-05-2006 09:12 PM

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;) 29/40 72.5%

Euphoria 01-06-2006 10:14 AM

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I don't care who was the better team but I do care who was the better player and who WON the game. Young won did what he had to do won the biggest game of his life, and isn't it about winning. You put Young behind our offensive line that is the perfomance you'll get a lost.

AllSaints 01-06-2006 10:34 AM

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Leinart will be a better Qb in the nfl hands down Young will not will not WILL NOT be able to do what he did against nfl defenses he will get smacked ..... He will be just like vick always getting injured and only be in the NFL for a short time.....

MordorIV 01-06-2006 10:38 AM

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dont talk smack allsaints it comes back to get you and you dont know if he will be good or not you are not god are you? just a guy who likes to scream we know what you like about leinart do NOT degrade players.

AllSaints 01-06-2006 10:48 AM

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In my opinion and thats my opinion i think that will be exactly wat Young will be like....

wowowowowow .......


SmackDownCentral.com ......

MordorIV 01-06-2006 10:51 AM

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Well this is not smackdown centrel is it? and degradeing players shows no class... wow thats sounds like mmm Matt Leinart. thats right.

AllSaints 01-06-2006 10:56 AM

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haha Matt Leinart in no way shape or form was classless when they came up to him.....

AllSaints 01-06-2006 10:57 AM

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Wat would you sya right after the loss i mean right after when the cameras all get in your face and you have been with the team for 4 years and you have to stick up for those guys ......

MordorIV 01-06-2006 10:58 AM

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Good game thats it.

Euphoria 01-06-2006 11:01 AM

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I think the real comparison is that some are saying that AB's comments are almost identical to Leinarts.

MordorIV 01-06-2006 11:08 AM

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ok.

saintswhodi 01-06-2006 11:42 AM

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I think the real comparison is that some are saying that AB's comments are almost identical to Leinarts.

Some who hate Leinart. There is no comparison.

MordorIV 01-06-2006 11:48 AM

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Thats right.

CheramieIII 01-06-2006 10:04 PM

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No therer is no comparison at this point because Young kicked the shiiiiitttt out of USC all by himself and that makes him better than Leinhart and Bush put together.

AllSaints 01-06-2006 10:37 PM

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the score was 41-38......kicking the crap out of them?????

do mean Vince Young did great in general ..... or wat??

sarge06 01-06-2006 10:42 PM

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Just wondering who you would rather have at QB right now? Peyton Maninng or Scott Frost?

1998 Orange Bowl
Neb 44 Tenn 17

Frost 125 passing 60 rushing 3 rushing tds
Manning 135 passing 1 int 1 td

CheramieIII 01-06-2006 11:10 PM

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No I mean kicked the crap out of them. One man against 80 and he won is an assssss whipin in my book.

shonboy 01-06-2006 11:42 PM

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whodi i agree that usc had an avg. d but its not like the horns ran a spread offense,,or reverses, or even wore down the d with a power runnin game....the young one had like 1400yds..quick name 2 horn recievers..........my point is that when they needed it and evry1 included my grandma new that vince would run the ball, so there was no excuse to cover any reciever they still could not stop him....(if u go back and zoom in on the TD run to the corner of the endzone u can partially see the S; with the red and blue triangle under his jersey) SUPERMAN LIVES

sarge06 01-07-2006 08:52 AM

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TE David Thomas 10 catches, WR Limas Sweed 8 catches, WR Billy Pittman 4 catches

MordorIV 01-07-2006 12:06 PM

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Manning.

spkb25 01-07-2006 06:29 PM

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young against the aggies 13/24 162 yards 1td 1int. also had a fumble. not great to me. oh he had 11 rushes for 19 yards. not great to me

pakowitz 01-07-2006 06:33 PM

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yea lets measure a guy by one game....

spkb25 01-07-2006 06:39 PM

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pak that was my point about everyone coming out about how he was the second coming of christ after the game against usc. so thank you for making my point for me. i was hoping one of the guys that after the rose bowl jumped all over how great he was would have said that. i love that my point has been made for me. it was one game against use and it was one game against the aggies. oh and i watched that game. boy did they beat him up bad. man they were in his face all day and he was rattled. seemed like the aggies entire plan was to get after young and they did a great job. he actually fumbled three times but he recovered one and so did one of the guys on his team. i can't say anything to you pak because you said you thought he was very good all year long.
also redskins just knocked off tampa

pakowitz 01-07-2006 06:41 PM

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i did think he had a great year and i dont think anyone should compare him to vick just b/c they are both good at running the football.... Young is a much better passer then vick is/was/ will be... hell he might be a better passer then vick is right now.....

spkb25 01-07-2006 06:45 PM

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well young is a definite talent i just get scared by the guys that are better at running then throwing. i will say this i had said in the first half some of his decision making had impressed me. if we get him i will be a huge fan. won't have a choice. then i will hope he is the second coming of christ-well minus the crucifixion.


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