Texans take Young, we take....
 

Bush... piss on leinert... i hate him n i really dont care to have him on my team.... bush paired with deuce... omg.... consider the possibilites... try to move in in the late 1st or stay wit the early 2nd pick n take omar jacobs... bring in a viable veteran for a year and lets see what can happen!!!

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Like the picture and that does sound good like kinda like a denver running game pound it with deuce and then let bush confert and pick up big yard plays.

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well... the way i see it... bush is a special player... he can break it at anytime... but i dont see him as a full time 25-30 carry back but he is such a bad matchup for linebackers n safetys that he creates mismatches all over the field.... we all saw how fast that guy is... and i think it would just add another dimension to our offense....they wont be able to just key in on deuce anymore....

n 1 more thing... they always say to take the best player available... and bush would be the best player available....

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Hes just plain fast.

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and he has the moves of a barry sanders...

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Yep got that right to.

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made the pic a little bigger for ya.... ;)

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Right. So we tie up most of our cap in two guys at the same position. Yup, that's a winner. Hello, Deuce, new deal, one of the highest paid RBs in the league? So we add another high bonus money RB to that? And take Omar Jacobs? We already have Omar Jacobs, his name is A-Mac.

dude.... look at it this way.... all we have now is deuce....defenses key in on deuce and begged AB to beat them.... drafting bush gives us another legitimate threat out of the backfield and at the WR position b/c he is a great reciever... players like him dont come around often and if he is there we have to take him....

Good post to.

All we have is Deuce? All San Diego has is Tomlinson. All Seattle has is Alexander. All the Colts have is Edge. You know what those 3 RBs have, a QB who scares defenses. I GUARANTEE defenses would not play us the same with Leinart, as they did with AB. Deuce is 26 years old. Or 27. It is pure insanity to crowd our cap room with two players at the same position, no matter how good Bush is. It makes NO sense. It would be fun on Madden, but that's about it. We have threats at WR, if we need another one we take Devin Hester in the 4th round or something. But spending a pick THAT high on another RB is insane, from a cap standpoint. If Deuce hadn't gotten a new deal, I would love this idea, cause at least he'd be tradeable. IF we need another RB that badly, we can take Addai in the second or something, or Morency if he falls. But there is no way on Earth we can put that much cap money in RB, when we need a QB, a DT, 3 LBs, and a LT. Impossible.

we have like 25 mill in cap room.....its not like we are strapped for cash....

First, where did you get that figure? 25 million? Last I heard it was like 10 million, and next year is when all the real payments for the extensions we handed out start to kick in.

This site: http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/numbers.asp

Says we have 10 million in cap room next year, no doubt factoring in the extensions. Are we still not strapped for cash with so many other needs? QB being the main need right now?

well lets see...darren howard... gone thats 7 mil right there.... then AB... gone.... i dont want to even think about what we were paying him..... possibly gandy will be gone.... he was making about 4-5 mil...he definetly not worth the money we are paying him... thats for sure.....

So you are factoring in getting rid of guys? Okay, so possible that could bring it a little higher, but I am certain the 10 mil figure has Howard included, cause he is not under contract next year anyway. And this is also before we franchise Bentley or whatever. So even with that, if we cut or trade Brooks, that takes us to about 16 mil. Bentley and Howard will cancel each other out. So 16 mil, and we need a QB, LT, DT, and 3 LBs, and a kicker. Plus we have the second pick in the draft. Still doesn't work. And without another starting caliber LT on the roster, I highly doubt they cut Gandy. There is no sound argument for taking Bush. Not one. Not with so many other needs, QB being paramount. Having a QB defenses actually fear can beat you will help Deuce WAY more than another RB, no matter how good he may be. And why would Deuce wanna share his carries anyway, with what he makes? He seemed damn happy when he was gonna be featured in the offense, he even called Haslett and said thnk you when we drafted Jamaal Brown. This just does not work for so many reasons.

i dont think drafting leinert is going to make defenses fear us.... he will be a rookie and all rookies struggle.... RBs usually have an easier start b/c not as much pressure is on their shoulders and u will still have to bring in another veteran qb to mentor leinert....

Screw it. Trade down and take Hawk.

Tough call... I know we need a QB but lets face it....as much as I love Deuce...thats two seasons loaded with injuries. We may have to see alternatives in that position. Are there any other RB prospects comin out this year?

If the Saints take anyone but a QB in the first round then you can count on another long season. Plus there is little reason to believe that the Texans will take another QB in round one. Unless they trade it for like 3 OL men its not gonna happen. Texans will take Bush regardless of Young entering the draft. Of course we are talking about the same Texan team who claimed Brian Boselli as their "franchise" choice....
Anyway Saints have to have either Young or Leinhert.

Trade down and get some defense......Once Free Agency starts let's see what QB's are out there, and get someone with some veteran leadership.

Trade down get Hawk and then get a veteran QB in here. Trade Brooks to another team any team for a QB with some experience. Kitna, Collins hell anybody is better than what we have.

Must take Bush
 

If the Texans are dumb enough to take Young we MUST take Reggie Bush. We then sign Air McNair as our QB for the interim when the Titans reunite Leinart and Norm Chow.
I'll take my chances with McNair, Duece, and Bush in the backfield over Leinart and Duece.
You take the money saved on Brooks cutting and pay McNair less and you take the money you get by dropping Howard and give it to Bentley. Draft a LB in the second round and a LT in the third and hope either Stinchcomb comes back hardcore or you can move Brown over to LT some time down the line.
After a year or two with McNair you hand the reigns to AMAC.
It's as simple as that folks.
You do not pass on the next Gail Sayers.

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thank u... finally someone with some sense.... i dont see how anyone could pass on bush.... he is that good....

question is jacobs coming out? i haven't heard that he was and i am pretty sure this was only his junior season. there is no way to keep bush and deuce

that kid from ohio state is real good. cherm i like that kid hawk

Yes rookies struggle. Exactly how many years is a player a rookie? And you expect us to be winning the Superbowl or somethign next year anyway? If not, who cares if a rookie QB struggles. He's a rookie. But not having to worry about the QB position for 10 years is priceless.

where is it guarenteed that leinert will be a probowler or whatever for the next 10 years...bush has a chance to be one of the best running backs of all time and u dont want to draft him b/c u want a qb...

Stockman, I am gonna take what you said point by point:

Steve McNair is currently speaking to ownership about working a deal to lower his salary and stay with the Titans, which HE OFFERED TO DO, so he could stay there. Even if he doesn't, his injury history speaks for itself.

You won't have to since we won't get McNair, he would prob play only 10 games or less, and what Deuce is a fullback in that plan? Unreal.

So we are making moves based on hope? Move our best RT to play LT sometime down the line? We don't have a 3rd round pick either. Boy, this plan is looking better and better.

You also don't pass on the next Peyton manning since we are throwing out superlatives before either plays an NFL down. Who wouldn't want Peyton on their team? Case closed.

not only that but most likely leinert will pull a manning and say he wont play for New Orleans... watch n see...

LMAO. Where is it written Bush will be anything special? Just like Bush has a chance, Leinart has a chance. What I know is, this teams needs a QB, not a RB. And I hope they aren't foolish enough to block up all their money in one position like that. It's really funny though where someone would ask what's guaranteed about Leinart, when nothing is guaranteed about Bush either. Priceless.

Wait, and Bush wouldn't? Leinart has already said he will play for whoever drafts him, and try to help them win. People around Bush are already questioning whether he should stay TO AVOID THE SAINTS. Wow.

I'm concerned that Leinart hasn't faced an inside rush like those of the NFL. His worst decisions came when flushed from the middle. I'm also concerned about his arm strength and the size of his hands. His tendency is to miss high which is an indicator of either or both, and those defects will be more pronounced in the pros.

Trade down or take the best available then trade away for more picks. There are too many gaps to fill.

Well bush has already signed an agent he cant back out now that he has done that.

can he?

He signed an agent, or he has been interviewing agents? He still has until Jan 15th to declare for the draft, and he hasn't officially done that yet either. Same with all players who want to enter the draft early. Neither has Lendale White. Still 9 days to go, he could change his mind. Although I don't expect him to.

Steve McNair's out:

McNair's agent, Titans in process of sorting out dealBy Len Pasquarelli
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In the feeding frenzy created by this week's start of the NFL playoffs and the end of so many head coaching tenures, the strong intimations from Tennessee Titans quarterback Steve McNair that he wants to return for 2006 and beyond got lost in the din.

Too bad, because it's a fairly significant occurrence, both for the Titans and for the NFL as well.

In an offseason that could include the departure of Brett Favre from the league landscape, losing a second warrior like McNair to retirement, or having him perhaps relocate, would be a real downer. However, it appears Titans and NFL fans won't have to concern themselves with McNair's departure.


Despite the Titans' 4-12 record, McNair seems legitimately convinced they are not that far away from getting things turned around. He likes the offense installed by first-year coordinator Norm Chow, sees the potential of a young corps of wide receivers and a very productive contingent of tight ends, and doesn't share the opinion of those who feel Tennessee requires a dramatic makeover. While the season included the kinds of aches and nagging injuries that have marked McNair's career the last three years, he did not miss significant playing time.

McNair will be 33 in February, hardly AARP age for quarterbacks, and he feels he can play about three more seasons. The sticking point, of course, is the monster $50 million roster bonus he is due in March, a mechanism included in his contract to force both sides back to the bargaining table. The good news: General manager Floyd Reese and agent James "Bus" Cook, who also represents Favre, have already started in on the contract negotiations.

Under his current contract, McNair is due base salaries of $9 million (2006), $11 million (2007), $13 million (2008) and $15 million (2009). Toss in the $50 million roster bonus and the total comes to a prohibitive $73 million for the next four years. But McNair isn't looking to be prohibitive. If anything, he has adopted a proactive stance, in announcing he wants to return and be a major component in reversing the Titans' fortunes.

There has been considerable speculation McNair and the Titans might be prepared to part ways after 11 seasons. The rumor mill keeps grinding grist about McNair's possibly going to the Miami Dolphins to finish his career. Don't bet on it. The groundwork has been laid for McNair to stay with the Titans. It will take some time and effort and some haggling as well, and a reworked contract might not be struck until just before the $50 million roster bonus comes due, but all signs point to an accord that will allow McNair to finish his career with the Titans.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insid...len&id=2282516

And Jacobs has not declared for the draft, and why would we want him anyway? Next.

Thanks whoodi.

A side note. Do you have to be a college player to enter the draft or could any amateur footballplayer enter?
Just thought of the NHL where they draft players from allover the world (not only amateurs thou9.

Yep you can, i have seen guys who are kickers and not been in college and there just a free agent and they get picked up.