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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Whodi.... I don't see why you aren't at least a little concerned about Leinart's possible future in N.O. I think people somewhat doubt his physical abilities, but mostly people doubt how he will adapt to life on our team. He'll ...
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01-09-2006, 01:58 PM | #41 |
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Whodi....
I don't see why you aren't at least a little concerned about Leinart's possible future in N.O. I think people somewhat doubt his physical abilities, but mostly people doubt how he will adapt to life on our team. He'll be going quite literally from riches to rags(regardless of the contract he will get). I know he said he will go wherever he is drafted but that doesn't alleviate any of my concerns in the least. What is he supposed to say at this point? I think he doesn't want to come off as a complete jerk by saying "I would rather not go here, but i will go wherever i'm drafted". There is no precedent for this situation, being that no team's home city has been ravaged by a hurricane to this degree, plus the lack of stability in the franchise overall. I think it would be a little naive to think that everything will be hunky dory. Honestly if i was in his situation I would hold out and force a trade. Coming from where he's coming from, would u want to buy a house and live in N.O.?? Come on now. Besides addressing another critical need, i don't think that the dropoff in lifestyle is as significant to a player like A.J. Hawk. And all of this stuff definitely matters to these guys. It's not all about the football to them. |
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01-09-2006, 02:16 PM | #42 |
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I just don't see it. The guy will be playing football, and will be a millionaire 40 times over. I am sure the league will also throw in some concessions to players who come here as FAs, or are drafted here. He doesn't have to live in New Olreans, most of the players don't. During the season all he has to worry about is football, after that, he can do whatever the hell he wants. Go back to LA in the offseason if he so chooses. Hell, all the Univ of Miami players hang out in Miami after the season. And like I said, if he does, AT THAT POINT, we trade him for a pirate's booty of picks and or players. This really is not a concern to me at all. Also, for the guy to say he would play wherever he is drafted, and still have people question him, just shows a bias to me. Until he says something different, I am gonna operate under the knowledge he will stand by that. When/if he changes his mind, then other choices will need to be made. Until then, I am not gonna pretend I know the man better than he knows himself.
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01-09-2006, 03:32 PM | #43 |
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01-09-2006, 03:53 PM | #44 |
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It really isn't about not wanting him. It's about not wanting him at #2 overall.
Comparing Leinart to Peyton doesn't seem to fit since Peyton does have elite arm strength and is the model of the dropback passer. Comparing Leinart to Brady is certainly complimentary, but if you had suggested that the Redskins take Tom Brady at #2 in the 2000 draft, they'd have laughed you out of town. Every team in the league passed on him at least 6 times. New England took him at pick #33 in the 6th round. I'm also pretty sure that Mel Kiper didn't grade Brady out higher than anyone else ever drafted either. But when you get right down to it, what makes Leinart a better choice than Wuerffel? They've both won at every level of competition they've ever been involved in. They're numbers are similar, but if you're honest, Wuerffel is the better candidate. Winning the SEC 4 straight times is a pretty impressive feat. My problem with Leinart is that he is either going to be good or going to be a total bust. I'd rather trade down and take the best defensive player in this class and pick up a quality QB in round 2 or even manage a later round 1. I'd have no problems at all with Leinart at #16 or later, it's just #2 that I think we're asking for trouble with. |
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01-09-2006, 03:57 PM | #45 |
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And in case anybody's wondering how Vince Young's scouting report looks:
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01-09-2006, 04:04 PM | #47 |
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with all these LBs declaring... i actually think we need to trade down and try to acquire another high 2nd round pick and pick 2 LBs with both of them
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01-09-2006, 04:07 PM | #48 |
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Originally Posted by TheDeuce
My own humble opinion is that Cutler will end up being the better pro.
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01-09-2006, 04:11 PM | #49 |
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Is that the only road left to take to discredit Leinart, compare him to busts? I am gonna make this real simple and easy: Weurffel was not called the best college QB of all time, by anyone. Ever, at any point. No comparison. But since that's the way the game has turned, let's look at some first round defensive players to see how they shake out. Hell, i'll just stick to the ones taking one overall:
I could go to Dan Wilkinson, and Courtney Brown and play this game all day. That's silly IMO. There is no other college QB to compare Leinart too, but if we are gonan compare him too busts, here are a few bust defensive players who won all the honors in college as well. |
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Also forgot that Weurffel played in a pass happy fun n gun offense that rarely used the run under Spurrier, while Leinart played in a balanced pro style system at USC. Anyone think a guy playing ain a pro style offens ewill have an easier time adjusting to the NFL than a guy who threw 80% of the time out of the shotgun? Wait, that sounds familiar too.
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