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DblBogey 01-16-2006 08:18 AM

Who will it be?
 
I had a dream last night that Mike Sherman will be given the job this week, but I prefer Maurice Cathron. Who knows what looms in Loomis' head.

mjf150 01-16-2006 08:31 AM

RE: Who will it be?
 
I believe that the best head coach available, by far, is Mike Sherman for the reason I previously posted under the "Mike Sherman" post:

I think saying that he was "riding the coatails of Holgram" is stretching it a little. If the team would have fallen off within a year or two after Holgrams departure, then I can see it, but when the team continues to win for 5 years afterward, you can not call that "riding on the coatails". Sherman went 57-39 and won three division titles in six seasons. That record is including the 4-12 that they posted this season when many of their starters, including Walker, Green, and Davenport, were placed on IR. To criticize him for not going to the Super Bowl is a little harsh considering that in the same six seasons there were a total of only 6 different coaches to even make an appearance there. In addition he had posted a winning record in all five previous seasons, and made four straight playoff appearances. I believe of all the coaches who were fired this past season, Sherman was the least deserving, by far.

jergensl 01-16-2006 08:33 AM

RE: Who will it be?
 
i think it will be sherman, but i want carthon.

johnnyhomey 01-16-2006 09:54 AM

Who do you want as Saints HC?
 
I posted a poll on my site, but I think St. Louis Goats fans are trolling & skewing the numbers because Martz is in front right now.

Take a look & vote....& any comments will be most welcome!

Thanks, Gang!

http://www.saintsconclave.com/who-would-you-want

mjf150 01-16-2006 12:38 PM

RE: Who do you want as Saints HC?
 
From Len Pasquarelli of ESPN.com:

Heard in the press box (in Indy)
Cincinnati may make an effort to re-sign Jon Kitna, but there are plenty of people in the organization who feel the Bengals can upgrade, and really don't much care if the veteran quarterback departs as an unrestricted free agent in the spring. ... If the St. Louis Rams hire Miami offensive coordinator Scott Linehan as head coach, they will aggressively pursue Tampa Bay defensive line coach Rod Marinelli to be his defensive coordinator. That's assuming that Marinelli, who will interview Monday with Oakland officials about the vacancy created by the dismissal of Norv Turner, doesn't land a head coach job. ... Turner might be a candidate to fill the offensive coordinator vacancy created in San Francisco when Mike McCarthy landed the Green Bay head coach position. ... New Orleans officials were very impressed with Mike Sherman last week and the former Green Bay coach has quietly emerged as the leading candidate to fill the Saints' opening. ... Jacksonville coach Jack Del Rio, who has two seasons remaining on his current deal at a total of about $3 million, might get a contract extension. But if he does, it likely will include a lot of incentives based on team performance. ... The Atlanta Falcons may try to trade former first-round tailback T.J. Duckett in the offseason. ... Two current college coaches, Pat Hill of Fresno State and Louisville's Bobby Petrino, could be factors in the Oakland head coach search. ... First-year Vikings coach Brad Childress concedes that quarterback Daunte Culpepper might not be fully rehabilitated from his catastrophic knee injury in time for the start of the '06 season.

johnnyhomey 01-16-2006 02:15 PM

re: Who will it be?
 
Thanks for visiting my site everybody!

If you have any suggestions, let me know. I'll have a draft day countdown clock up in a few days.

DblBogey 01-16-2006 02:38 PM

Good site Johnny . . . Hope da' fans will take advantage of it. I intend to as I book marked it.

maximkat 01-16-2006 04:06 PM

I voted sherman, I just don't feel there is much qualification in the others. I know I don't want to see Martz who is well known for all offense and no defense. I"m sick and tired of seeing the Saints as bottom dwellars after those dome patrol years. I sure hope whoever comes in adds an x over that last window in Dbl's bus.

jergensl 01-16-2006 05:44 PM

i think the defense this year stepped up. considering the horrible positions the offense put them in and the horrible def coordinator.

CheramieIII 01-16-2006 06:29 PM

Saints | Sherman the leading candidate?
Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:38:15 -0800

ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports there was talk in the press box of this weekend's playoff games that New Orleans Saints officials were very impressed with Mike Sherman last week and the former Green Bay Packers head coach has quietly emerged as the leading candidate to fill the Saints' opening at head coach.

spkb25 01-16-2006 06:33 PM

please be henderson or the sherminator

CheramieIII 01-16-2006 07:16 PM

I was really hoping it would be Henderson, but everything I read today points to Sherman, which I would not mind at all because he will be sure to get rid of AB again.

Halo 01-16-2006 07:34 PM

I want it to be Sherman because he is in my opinion the most qualified. He ran a good ship at GB, so what he had one bad season. I don't think he's the GM there also. But the poll asks "who will it be" and to be honest by the way the organization is acting.... like Peyton has no chance, tells me he's their man. So oh well.

spkb25 01-16-2006 07:40 PM

ehhh halo i don't like it either. but geez man i don't want to payton. i hope it is sherm

CheramieIII 01-16-2006 07:54 PM

Different reports flying all over. A decision is near and I think Jay Glazer was right it will be tomorrow:

ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli believes that Mike Sherman is the favorite to win the Saints head coaching job.
The NFL Network has called Dallas coordinator Sean Payton the leader in the clubhouse. New Orleans should be done with interviews, so they should make their decision soon. Jan. 16 - 3:09 pm et
Source: ESPN.com
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/clu...NFL&majteam=NO

TheDeuce 01-16-2006 08:07 PM

Here's an interview with Sherman. Didn't know he used to live/coach in New Orleans. Seems like a very good guy, built on good morals, who also knows what it takes to be successful in this league. Geez I hope this guy gets it. Enjoy:

Quote:

The Saints conducted their fourth formal interview to fill their vacant head coaching position as they talked with former Green Bay Head Coach Mike Sherman on Thursday night and Friday.

Here is the transcript of the press conference:

Q: Can you discuss your interview?

A: "I had some good conversations with some good people."

Q: Why is this job an attractive one?

A: "It's funny. I originally started my coaching career at Tulane University in New Orleans, my first big job and know people down there. When I was a college coach for a number of years, I used to recruit Louisiana. I know the type of people that live here, good people. I find it to be a very attractive job."

Q: Did you know heading into the off-season that you wanted to try to get back into it and find a head coaching job?

A: "If it was the right job and if it was good for my family, it would be something that I would consider."

Q: Do you have concerns coming into a job in New Orleans without a lot of winning tradition over its 40 year history as opposed to coming from Green Bay which had a historical winning tradition?

A: "I always feel like you're dealing with the present. What are we going to do with now to help us win and you deal with that. Even when you win, you can't deal with the past and when you haven't won you can't deal with the past. You got to deal with the present and in talking to the people here and Mr. Benson, they appear very committed to winning and to New Orleans."

Q: What type of talks did you guys have over what kind of control you would have over player personnel?

A: "We didn't get into a lot of that. The structure was explained to me of how they came to conclusions. It's a structure that I'm fairly familiar with that I used in Green Bay, where you come to a consensus. There's a lot of hard work that goes into the decision making. You gather information with your scouts and your coaches. Everybody gets a chance to voice your opinion and at some point a decision has to be made. Obviously Mickey (Loomis) is the general manager and ultimately he would have to make that final decision. He certainly I believe would listen to suggestions and concerns that the coaches may have."

Q: Did they talk to you about a repeat visit or a second interview?

A: "No, we just finished up today and that's as far as we are right now."

Q: As someone who has lived in New Orleans in the past, but not recently, how many questions did you have about currently living in the area?

A: "Obviously having had an opportunity to come in yesterday and travel around the city a little bit, I've seen some of it, but certainly not all of it, but I did have some questions. I have a wife and five children. I certainly have some concerns and I will have some questions when I return, but my concerns were alleviated in talking to the people and what I was able to see."

Q: Did you guys talk about personnel issues here such as your relationship with Mike McKenzie?

A: "We talked about all the personnel, went over everybody, we looked at the tape of their team in the last game, middle game and I had a chance to look at it and we had a pretty in depth conversation about personnel."

Q: Is the draft pick that the Saints possess attractive and was that a part of the discussion?

A: "No, we didn't discuss that per se, but certainly it is an attractive draft pick and something that I think can only enhance the personnel on the team."

Q: Would this be a fit with you more of a head coach/general manager/vice president type and Mickey Loomis handling the salary cap adeptly over the years?

A: "They have people here that have done a good job, I think their last two drafts in particular, you look at these young players, (Jammal) Brown and (Will) Smith and Devery Henderson. They have some good players that they have drafted here. I think they have an excellent process in how they go about doing that. I'm not overly concerned with those mechanics."

Q: What do you think is lacking in assessing this team?

A: "That's tough to say, because I'm sure the previous staff did everything they could and Jim Haslett's a heck of a coach. You do everything you can to try to win football games, but I just think there comes a point where collectively as an organization you just work towards getting a winning product on the field and being accountable and honest about that product. When something's not right you try to fix it. All of us coaches have tried to do that."

Q: Is it an interesting cycle to go through the interview process again and taking you back in time?

A: "Not really, because the National Football League is a very unique business. I think we figured that out in the last couple of weeks and it's ongoing and you can't take it personal. Sometimes it's irrational, but it's a great business. It's a great game and you get a chance to meet some wonderful people. The players that I have worked with in the past, I feel very fortunate."

Q: Do you plan on your next job being a head coaching job?

A: "Yes."

Q: Have you interviewed anywhere else or do you plan to?

A: "My agent's taking care of that as those opportunities get lined up."

Q: Is this your first coaching interview this off-season?

A: "Yes."

Q: Even though it's over 20 years ago, what memories do you have of New Orleans from being the offensive line coach at Tulane?

A: "The most vivid one, my daughter was born in Southern Baptist Hospital, she was baptized in St. Louis Cathedral. Crawfish boils and all that we used to have and I think the biggest thing about New Orleans, the people here, their resiliency, what they've shown the country is phenomenal and the fact that driving downtown its actually looked cleaner than the parts that I was in last night from the last time I remember 20 some odd years ago, which is sort of ironic, but I think the thing that I know best about Louisiana and New Orleans is the people here are just good hearted people, a lot like the people in Green Bay. Family people, care about each other, love to hunt, love to fish and get together as a family, back there watch the Packers play on Sunday, here watch the Saints play on Sunday. If they win they're happy. If they lose, they're not."

Q: If you're offered this job today would you take it?

A: "It's something I'd have to discuss with my wife and my family. I know in my heart what I'd want to do, but I'd always discuss it with them before I'd want to do anything."

Q: What's the first step you got to take as a coach after a season gets out of hand?

A: "I think confidence and a belief system in what you're doing. You're bringing a new staff of coaches wherever you are and certainly the same thing up in Green Bay for them. You bring in a new group of people. There's belief in this hope that sometimes in change you get a little bit of that. Sometimes it's overrated. It depends on what you do with that change. Get them all here, get them believing in themselves and our ability to win."

CheramieIII 01-16-2006 08:24 PM

A: "Obviously having had an opportunity to come in yesterday and travel around the city a little bit, I've seen some of it, but certainly not all of it, but I did have some questions. I have a wife and five children. I certainly have some concerns and I will have some questions when I return, but my concerns were alleviated in talking to the people and what I was able to see."

Good find Deuce, I really like this answer!

TheDeuce 01-16-2006 08:54 PM

Quote:

Q: If you're offered this job today would you take it?

A: "It's something I'd have to discuss with my wife and my family. I know in my heart what I'd want to do, but I'd always discuss it with them before I'd want to do anything."
Maybe I just read this wrong, but sounds like the Sherminator wants this job.

maximkat 01-16-2006 11:37 PM

i liked the way most of that sounded but i was a little worried about this snipit

"That's tough to say, because I'm sure the previous staff did everything they could and Jim Haslett's a heck of a coach." :)

TheDeuce 01-17-2006 12:34 AM

Probably just being PC

DblBogey 01-17-2006 07:16 AM

Halo quote:
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to be honest by the way the organization is acting.... like Peyton has no chance, tells me he's their man.
As is typical . . . It is amazing how the management always seems to take the opposite position of the objective majority of this board. Maybe if we were to beat the drum for Payton then Sherman would be the front runner in the clubhouse. They must have someone reviewing this board and inject the other opinion in their decision making process . . . it has happened too many times as with staying with Brooks for so long. Everyone could see him as problem but they would do nothing about it. As Halo, so accurately put it . . .
Quote:

So oh well.

johnnyhomey 01-17-2006 09:38 AM

Last week, Rams Media Relations Director John Hadley reported on AM 550 in StL that Martz was the leading candidate to get the Rams job.....& he'd bring Kurt Warner & Marshall Faulk with him.


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