Keeping Aaron Brooks
 

I'd like to see them keep Brooks for one more season, just in case. Unless they can trade him for a first round pick(impossible it seems) but Baltomore, Miami, Cleveland, Detroit, Arizona they could all sure use him. He's a pretty good quaterback he just lacks intelligence. Payton might be able to do something with him & we draft Leinart or Young whos going to be the back-up Bouman, I'd rather Brooks. :apu:

I'll admit I am an AB fan, when he is on he can be great, but when he is off is he ever off! That being said I am all for drafting Leinart and letting him compete with AB for the starters role. Landing Phillip Rivers lit a fire under Drew Brees, maybe it can do the same for AB! :twisted:

No way in the world we could ever get a first for AB, even if he were to have a great year. He has an ugly cap number, he's approaching 30 and it would only be one big year.

a first for brooks. dude we be lucky to get a 3rd

I like AB. He is quick...a good scrambler that can buy time....and a good arm. Maybe with a new offensive system he can thrive more than he did under Haslett. I say trade down a few spots and get Hawk.

I don't know that much about cap and $$$. I do know it's an important consideration, though. Not sure who we could get in his place. We certainly would need someone decent with experience. A-Mac remains a possibility but he's still a project.

Seems many of the decent back-ups are valuable to their teams. The Vikings will probably try to hold on to Brad Johnson. The Chargers with Brees and Rivers. The Falcons with Schaub and Vick. Etc...etc.

I'm not all that crazy about Brooks but I'm not opposed to keeping him, if possible. Just curious of all of you in favor of dumping him - who do we sign and how?


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As I said yesterday in a similar post, I do not see anything wrong with keeping AB for one more year. He can be a great backup if that is the role for him. Of course he will probable want out the following year but he can be a great asset. I still think drafting a QB in the first round is the way to go. Maybe trading down to get some good 2nd rd pics and pick the QB from Vandy. He is getting rave reviews.

I think every would agree that he would be a great back up. The deal breaker is that he has a 6.5 mil cap figure for next year. That's starter money. We can cut him and get another back up for much less.

That would be assuming our signee would be the starter. :wink: Perhaps the rookie would need time to develop. Young, Leinart or another may very well be ready to step right in. But my money's not on it. I dunno.



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No you are right. A Leinart or Young definitely would need time to develop. All the same we could find a starter for less than 6.5 mil.

It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out.


I don't know all the details of Brad Johnson's situation at Minnesota. But an article in the local paper suggested he wasn't all that happy with the new Viking regime announcing Culpepper as their man. Johnson's gettin' a little old, but I like him. Perhaps he could keep the Saints afloat for a while....



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May not be the appropriate place for it, but here's the article on Brad Johnson....


Johnson still has NFL future at QB

Column by Randy Beard
TALLAHASSEE DEMOCRAT STAFF WRITER


Peyton Manning is more prolific, Tom Brady more proficient and Michael Vick more prodigious. But when it comes to quarterbacks in the National Football League, no one is more professional than Brad Johnson.

He manages games, commands teams and never complains.

“I've done that for three different organizations, taking them to the playoffs,� said Johnson, who just completed his 14th season in the NFL by salvaging a shipwreck of a Minnesota Vikings team. “I've had five different coordinators during that time, and the numbers are there. The numbers haven't changed from my first year as a starter to now.

“I love to play, and I feel like I should be a starter in the league.�

Nothing ever has been handed to Johnson. It didn't happen during his four years at Florida State, and it hasn't been the case during his marathon run through the NFL.

Indeed, four years into his pro career, Johnson had appeared in just nine games and didn't have a touchdown pass. But give him credit. He kept breaking down film and plugging through playbooks until his opportunity finally came with the Vikings in 1996.

He has since started 108 regular-season games, passed for 25,798 yards and has a Super Bowl ring to cherish.

But respect? It's still slow to arrive and quick to disappear. He earned it, then lost it, with the Washington Redskins. And then the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, of all teams, taught him that Super Bowl memories don't guarantee roster spots.

“Contracts don't mean anything in the NFL,� said Johnson, who has three years remaining on his four-year deal with the Vikes. “I've seen owners bought out. I've seen coaches traded. I've seen players come and go. ... I saw John Lynch let go. Tampa said he couldn't play anymore and now he's made two more Pro Bowls and is in the playoffs.

“It's funny how perceptions are sometimes.�

The latest worrisome one about Johnson belongs to new Vikings coach Brad Childress. He has decided that Daunte Culpepper, if healthy, should be the starter next season. Never mind that Minnesota was 2-5 before Johnson stepped in and won seven of the last nine games. He wasn't the QB implicated in the “Love Boat� scandal that nearly tore apart the team, either.

But if it is Johnson's 37 years that worry Childress, someone should point out that the 14-year veteran handled playoff-like pressure the last two games, completing 52 of 76 passes for 495 yards and four touchdowns with no interceptions.

“My game is still pretty much the way it was when I was 27,� said Johnson. “Get back quick, make the read, make the throw. Give your team a chance to win.�

Spoken like a true professional.


http://www.tdo.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...73233050139190


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id take a 3rd for AB... hell id take a 7th...

AB
 

I have defended AB in the past, but I think its time to move on without him.....Matt Schaub might be a good fit, if we stick with the a run first mentality.

RE: AB
 

I dont think they will back up bouman ..... He starts.... Leinart that is or get a veteren guy...... that starts a few weeks then let leinart start

AB wasn't the problem, Yeah he had a down year, but look at Bouman when he came in 2 td's and 7 Int's come on if Brooks has to go then He definitely has to go!

This isn't a Brooks vs. Bouman issue. Just because Bouman sucks more doesn't mean that Brooks should keep his job. Cut both of them.

Hey Wiley, you don't know someone named..........no I won't say it because it's a new argument of the same subject that someone else that used to visit hear spouted alot.

AB was part of a very large problem that included all of the coaches AB and a few other players. Bouman is only second string dude. You can't argue anything about him. We all know they both suck.

they both suck how in the world is that an endorsement for fumbles

and by the way Wiley don't stop posting and WELCOME TO THE BOARD.

:band:

RE: AB
 

Trade Brooks to Greeen Bay for Favre, if he can be talked into finishing his career close to home. Then draft Lienhart or young, let them learn from one of the best!

RE: AB
 

JM, haven't seen you post for a while. I would agree that Favre would be a good mentor for any QB, I just don't think he has anything left in that tank of his. I also don't think we should draft a QB but that is another argument.

Welcome and keep posting.

:cheering:

RE: AB
 

cherm you were the first guy to post to my very first post. what are you the unofficial welcoming crew

RE: AB
 

Hey 25, that's me trying to keep everyone happy, sorta like a mediator. I really love this site and I will try to do everything to keep as many members as possible. We all have our opinions and it get's heated sometimes but this is a great place to live and breathe the NEW ORLEANS SAINTS.

and welcome aboard again 25, you have provided alot of fire to sometimes bland subjects and hell no I don't agree with you all the time either.

RE: AB
 

what the hell do you mean you don't agree with me. lol

RE: AB
 

i would say keep brooks as a backup, but as someone else has already pointed out, he is paid way too much to be a back up.

i truly believe that leinart can start from day one if we stay with a run first or short passing game mentality. kind of a dink and dunk style of the west coast offense that payton has been said to like. how pitsburgh has used big ben would be a great way to use leinart. another option would be to use a quick 3 step drop passing game that would keep leinart from getting killed by an o line that has a problem with pass protection. many have said leinart has weak arm strenght, don't buy it. a short quick passing game would be ideal for him.

RE: AB
 

Believe me he would renegotiate if we didn't get any trade proposals for him. Just hold onto him until after the draft then if you can't trade him offer him a new contract or cut him. I actually like the renegotiation and backup for AB idea.

You really don't believe this do you JL. Name me one QB that started from day one out of college and was successful that first year and I will buy you a case of Dixie my brotha, it won't happen and everyone knows it. That is the reason for all of the talk about a veteran QB FA pickup.

RE: AB
 

many teams make the mistake of forcing a rookie qb to win games for them. big ben started his rookie year and did very well. granted pittsburgh had an awesome team around him, but the strategy they used worked. i think the strategy of having a young qb just manage the game and not screw up works.

i would love to see leinart as a saint, but the more i think about it i might want to see the saints draft hawk with the first pick, focus on d the entire draft, and give payton the opportunity to try to get something out of brooks for one more year and then trade him while everyone thinks he has been "reborn" into a good qb. payton did get good production out of quincy carter, he may be able to do something with brooks. this is very optomistic, but hey i like thinking positive.

RE: AB
 

jerg i wouldn't mind seeing the saints trading down. but if we do take leinart i hope he is the next great one

RE: AB
 

i do to 25. i am not sure if it will happen, but i would rather look back and said we tried than look back and say, "i can't believe we passed up leinart" as he is being inducted into the nfl hall of fame in 20yrs.

RE: AB
 

good point

RE: AB
 

of course its a good point...i made it.

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol u r funny. hold on i almost can't write from the laughing

RE: AB
 

You know I think Saints fans have said this same thing for 38 years now. I think everyone believes it's time to do the right thing, not just do something and hope it's the right thing.

RE: AB
 

amen brotha chermy

RE: AB
 

JL in the Hizy, oh shiiiiit Ebonics, I'm sorry didn't know wat a brotha waz sayin!

RE: AB
 

Farve is done i dont want farve...

Clean the damn house . . . get rid of the deadwood. Shed AB like the plague and bring in someone else to mentor Lienart if that is the route SP takes, plus use the AB money to wheel and deal. There is no added value in keeping AB. I certainly don't want him training the QB of the future to pass backwards and how to fumble and smile about it. AB has too much down side to be kept.

Keeping Brooks one more year to have him duel it out with whomever is drafted or signed is not a the worst proposition, provided that if a FA is signed it is a quarteback who is of starting caliber. Remember Drew Brees's production jump when Rivers was drafted, I do. With a new head coach, and hopefully staff and scheme the offense can (that's a big CAN) be productive. Eliminating 1st and second and 20's will go a long way in increasing a qurtbacks production. If winning now is importantant then yes there needs to be compition at quarteback, but other glaring issues need to be addressed to help that quarterback suceed.

I'd take a coke & a bag of chips from any team for Aaron Brooks!!!! However, since the other coaches & GM's have watched him play, we'll probably have to settle for a slim jim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!