The Great Debate

TallySaint · 01-21-2006, 02:28 PM

It's kinda comical to see some folks take such a fervent stance for either Young or Leinart that THE OTHER ONE SUCKS!!!

Sure, there are pros and cons for both - some probably outweighing the other. But they're both pretty dang good and given different circumstances they'll be in, take different time to develop.

Some will take it so far that if we sign one of 'em, and he shines - He will always and forever more suck, no matter what..... and beat that drum on and on and on....

.... and heaven help us if for some reason we don't sign either of them. We'd see new and creative uses of the word "suck", that's for sure. While I'm on a roll here.... Suck it, Trebek.

8)

BlackandBlue · 01-21-2006, 02:34 PM

Actually, if we didn't sign either, would mean that we traded down, and given the scenario, could be something that pleases almost everyone.

TallySaint · 01-21-2006, 02:37 PM

Actually, if we didn't sign either, would mean that we traded down

I can't say that wheelin' and dealin' would bother me much. Fill needs, baby.

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cajunsaint · 01-21-2006, 02:45 PM

I SAY TRADE DOWN GET MORE PICKS, THE NFL IS GIVING US COMPENSATORY PICKS AREN'T THEY? WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A ROUGH YEAR ANY WAY SO LETS GET THE PICKS AND START REBUILDING FOR THE FUTURE NOW

gandhi1007 · 01-21-2006, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by cajunsaint

I SAY TRADE DOWN GET MORE PICKS, THE NFL IS GIVING US COMPENSATORY PICKS AREN'T THEY? WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A ROUGH YEAR ANY WAY SO LETS GET THE PICKS AND START REBUILDING FOR THE FUTURE NOW

Has Tags actually given us the nod for those compensatory picks, or is that still just a rumor?

I won't believe it until I see it.

jergensl · 01-21-2006, 03:50 PM

great idea...pass on a franchise qb to draft a bunch of guys to ride the pine...brilliant

chRxis · 01-21-2006, 05:32 PM

honestly, i think we can all agree that the best quarterback in this draft is leinart... he will be head and shoulders above the rest of the rookie quarterbacks, just like when peyton came out... peyton wasn't the most athletic that year, but he was the most complete, nfl-ready quarterback just like leinart is this year... i think it's a no brainer and you can't get all worked up just b/c this guy vince young is such a great athlete... i mean, as far a being a quarterback, he's good, but not nearly as good as leinart is as a quarterback...

CheramieIII · 01-21-2006, 05:51 PM

great idea...pass on a franchise qb to draft a bunch of guys to ride the pine...brilliant

You really don't think that Leinart is going to come in and start next year and make any difference with the same team around him do you? Come on you know that ain't happening.

Leinart will take sometime to develop.

jergensl · 01-21-2006, 05:55 PM

chermy,
you and i have been thru this before. yes i do think leinart can come in and make a difference in his first year. he will be the first qb the saints have had in a long time that can manage a game and greatly limit the number of mistakes. that would make a HUGE difference in what we have seen the past 3 or 4 years.

he will take some time to develop into his full potential, but at his present state (getting even better in the preseason) he will be better than what the saints currently have at qb and most of the fa qbs out there.

CheramieIII · 01-21-2006, 06:15 PM

he will take some time to develop into his full potential, but at his present state (getting even better in the preseason) he will be better than what the saints currently have at qb and most of the fa qbs out there.

I agree that he's better than what we have, hell Billy Joe Hobert is better than what we have. Not a good argument jergensl.

01-21-2006, 02:28 PM	#11
TallySaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 1,367	It's kinda comical to see some folks take such a fervent stance for either Young or Leinart that THE OTHER ONE SUCKS!!! Sure, there are pros and cons for both - some probably outweighing the other. But they're both pretty dang good and given different circumstances they'll be in, take different time to develop. Some will take it so far that if we sign one of 'em, and he shines - He will always and forever more suck, no matter what..... and beat that drum on and on and on.... .... and heaven help us if for some reason we don't sign either of them. We'd see new and creative uses of the word "suck", that's for sure. While I'm on a roll here.... Suck it, Trebek. 8)
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01-21-2006, 03:14 PM	#15
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by cajunsaint I SAY TRADE DOWN GET MORE PICKS, THE NFL IS GIVING US COMPENSATORY PICKS AREN'T THEY? WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A ROUGH YEAR ANY WAY SO LETS GET THE PICKS AND START REBUILDING FOR THE FUTURE NOW Has Tags actually given us the nod for those compensatory picks, or is that still just a rumor? I won't believe it until I see it.

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01-21-2006, 02:34 PM	#12
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Actually, if we didn't sign either, would mean that we traded down, and given the scenario, could be something that pleases almost everyone.

01-21-2006, 02:37 PM	#13
TallySaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 1,367	Actually, if we didn't sign either, would mean that we traded down I can't say that wheelin' and dealin' would bother me much. Fill needs, baby. 8)

01-21-2006, 02:45 PM	#14
cajunsaint Rookie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kaplan La. Posts: 13	I SAY TRADE DOWN GET MORE PICKS, THE NFL IS GIVING US COMPENSATORY PICKS AREN'T THEY? WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A ROUGH YEAR ANY WAY SO LETS GET THE PICKS AND START REBUILDING FOR THE FUTURE NOW

01-21-2006, 03:50 PM	#16
jergensl 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belleview, FL Posts: 526	great idea...pass on a franchise qb to draft a bunch of guys to ride the pine...brilliant

01-21-2006, 05:32 PM	#17
chRxis 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 690	honestly, i think we can all agree that the best quarterback in this draft is leinart... he will be head and shoulders above the rest of the rookie quarterbacks, just like when peyton came out... peyton wasn't the most athletic that year, but he was the most complete, nfl-ready quarterback just like leinart is this year... i think it's a no brainer and you can't get all worked up just b/c this guy vince young is such a great athlete... i mean, as far a being a quarterback, he's good, but not nearly as good as leinart is as a quarterback...

01-21-2006, 05:51 PM	#18
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	great idea...pass on a franchise qb to draft a bunch of guys to ride the pine...brilliant You really don't think that Leinart is going to come in and start next year and make any difference with the same team around him do you? Come on you know that ain't happening. Leinart will take sometime to develop.

01-21-2006, 05:55 PM	#19
jergensl 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belleview, FL Posts: 526	chermy, you and i have been thru this before. yes i do think leinart can come in and make a difference in his first year. he will be the first qb the saints have had in a long time that can manage a game and greatly limit the number of mistakes. that would make a HUGE difference in what we have seen the past 3 or 4 years. he will take some time to develop into his full potential, but at his present state (getting even better in the preseason) he will be better than what the saints currently have at qb and most of the fa qbs out there.

01-21-2006, 06:15 PM	#20
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	he will take some time to develop into his full potential, but at his present state (getting even better in the preseason) he will be better than what the saints currently have at qb and most of the fa qbs out there. I agree that he's better than what we have, hell Billy Joe Hobert is better than what we have. Not a good argument jergensl.