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Colin is the editor of the Great Blue North Draft Report and has been at the senior bowl. I'll highlight, then post the whole thing:

Entire chat:

[Colin Lindsay's Senior Bowl Draft Chat]: Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com has entered at 8:00 pm
[streetcar]: and always in trouble huh BC
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Welcome Colin
[BillyCarpenter1]: What's up Colin?
[streetcar]: Welcome
[goodgulf71]: hello
[streetcar]: enlighten us
[Dr.Lecter]: Hi Colin and thanks for doing this.
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Thanks guys...heard the Siants have something like the 2nd pick!
[BillyCarpenter1]: That's the rumor
[streetcar]: lol
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Something like that!
[goodgulf71]: what to do
[streetcar]: heard we have a crap owner to did you?
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Do you think Matt Leinart is a lock?
[goodgulf71]: who would be best fit here
[BillyCarpenter1]: Who has the most upside: Leinart or Young?
[goodgulf71]: highest floor
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Hi Fan...pretty close; I know Payton a little from his Giants days and I would see
ML as a perfect fit for the kind of offense he likes to run
[goodgulf71]: that is a good fit payton and ML
[Saints Fan in Austin]: What type of player do you think Vince Young will become?
[streetcar]: you can sell me that
[Saints Fan in Austin]: welcome BNB
[BlackandBlue]: thank you
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Billy: Leinart is a real solid prospect; polished passer but lacks great athleticism
and arm strength. Young on the other hand is a real boom or bust type. Could be another Elway if he gets
mechanics down or a TE if he doesn't!
[bullmoose72078]: in 5 years who will be the best back out of usc bush are white?
[Dr.Lecter]: Bills fan here - We are not 2nd, but are still pretty high. Any chance the Jets don't take Brick?
[goodgulf71]: yea i agree there is much more risk with young
[BillyCarpenter1]: Thanks. Since you brought it up, does Leinart's lack of arm strength concern you?
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Hi Moose...I like Bush; he really has the potential to be a game-breaker; White is
a power back and I'm not convinced yet that he has the make you miss agility.
[bullmoose72078]: do you buy into the cutler hype?
[supersaint15]: i have heard hes acurate but leadership is a question
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Billy: Sure the lack of arm strength is a concern but Leinart is very accurate,
throws a very catchable ball, reads the field well and has great intangibles; not a bad package altogether
[Saints Fan in Austin]: How do you feel about D'Qwell Jackson and will he be available at #34?
[goodgulf71]: is there any chance Reggie Bush could slip to 2
[supersaint15]: who would you rather take hodge or jackson
[BillyCarpenter1]: Thanks, Colin. That's what I wanted to know!
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Fan: This is a real deep draft and I would think Jackson would almost certainly be
there at #34; he's had an up-and down week here in Mobile. Not all that smooth or fluid, but is a gamer who gets
great drops in coverage. Also not all that big at 6-0, 230 or so...
[Saints Fan in Austin]: say, the Texans take Ferguson (because he's been a DEMON at the Senior Bowl so
far) instead of Bush... do we still go with a QB or do we take Bush instead?
[supersaint15]: what do you think the best move for the saints to be draft young, leinart, or trade the pick
[wicked_dynamics]: What Position do U think the saints should address at #34, LB, OL, or best player available?
[streetcar]: who are the sleepers to keep your eye on in the Senior Bowl, guys that could also move up to our early
2nd at say DT or LB maybe even a LT
[BillyCarpenter1]: We have the 2nd pick in the second round. What linebackers might be available to us at that pick?
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Fan; The Texans are going to take either Bush or Young so your only real option
would be if they went with Young which isn't totally out of the question. The other scenario might be if the Texans
traded down which isn't out of the question if there is a team out there willing to break the bank to get Young......
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Just to follow up; if you get a shot at Bush you take him in a heart beat
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Thanks!
[goodgulf71]: those type of game breakers are rare
[goodgulf71]: gale sayers like
[BillyCarpenter1]: So, Reggie Bush over Leinart?
[bullmoose72078]: what do you think of omar jacobs?
[Saints Fan in Austin]: How do you feel about Antonio Cromartie?
[supersaint15]: what it be smarter for the texans to take ferguson, carr is a good qb and davis is a good rb. there line
is a big question
[supersaint15]: who are some sleeper picks at linebacker?
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[Saints Fan in Austin]: He'll be right back
[streetcar]: it happened to me too
[NFLDiva]: Billy what did you say to hime...LOL
[streetcar]: he wont see our questions when he returns though
[streetcar]: we will have to refresh him
[Saints Fan in Austin]: He should
[streetcar]: I didnt
[BillyCarpenter1]: I told him to step out of the room so you and I could get busy, Diva . lol
[supersaint15]: if both are there , who do we take bush or leniart
[streetcar]: when i left
[NFLDiva]: It will be OK, Colin is pretty good at keeping up
[Saints Fan in Austin]: That's cool. we've been feeding him pretty quick anyway
[streetcar]: yea Deeve slow it down
[NFLDiva]: hahahahahahaha
[Dr.Lecter]: There is no way I would pass on Reggie Bush. Gamebreaker.
[wicked_dynamics]: SFIA, you buying into the Cutler crap?
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Not a chance WD
[streetcar]: Cutler will be make or break in the Senior Boowl
[BillyCarpenter1]: I wouldn't take Bush over Leinart or VY. Runningbacks are too easy to find.
[supersaint15]: same here
[streetcar]: not that one BC
[BillyCarpenter1]: Yeah, well, unless Bush rushes for 3,000 yards, I 'll pass.
[streetcar]: although it scares me that Bush didnt touch it enough
[Dr.Lecter]: Question for the people from NO? Will Losman pan out or should we give up now?
[streetcar]: i liked him
[supersaint15]: i want to know some linebackers that will be sleeper picks. i think thomas howard ran a 4.4 in the 40
[streetcar]: I think he was as good as Ramsey but Ramsey got screwed with too many coach changes early
[BlackandBlue]: you can tell watching him he's lost some confidence
[Saints Fan in Austin]: I don't know what happened. Hopefully, he makes it back.
[NFLDiva]: Only thing I see with Losman Dr. Lecter is he is too nervous still
[streetcar]: a coach makes the young QB
[Saints Fan in Austin]: He is out in Mobile for the Senior Bowl and I don't know what his connection was
[BlackandBlue]: true
[Dr.Lecter]: Well JP has already had one and has a swiss cheese line. The Bills O-line is terrible.
[Colin Lindsay's Senior Bowl Draft Chat]: Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com has entered at 3:01 am
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Welcome back!
[BlackandBlue]: definately rattled
[Dr.Lecter]: Welcome back. We missed you.
[streetcar]: i think he has the same chance Carr has
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Hi guys: seems I got booted off; am back but seem to have lost the questions
[BlackandBlue]: what are your feelings regarding Ngata, since teams put a premium on top-notch DT, shouldn't he
be ranked in the top 10? the only weakness I can find in the guy is the ACL injury he suffered a few years ago- do
you know of any others?
[streetcar]: Chad what up
[Dr.Lecter]: Is there any way my Bills get a shot at Ferguson or we gonna be taking Haloti Ngata, like I see in most
mocks?
[wicked_dynamics]: What Position do U think the saints should address at #34, LB, OL,
or best player available?
[Chad504boy]: check one
[BillyCarpenter1]: What linebackers to you think will be around when we draft in the 2nd round? Thanks in
advance.
[BillyCarpenter1]: do
[supersaint15]: Kai Parham from virginia is some one who we should keep a look at 6-3 248, an a 4.55
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: B&B we aren't real big Ngata fans...he's sure big, but to us he's top heavy, lacks
overall quickness and doesn't make many plays upfield. A number of teams really like him though and in a weak
year at DT could go in the top 10
[Chad504boy]: Hey Colin, As an LSU alum here, where do you think OT Stephen Peterman will go. Is the top of the
2nd a reach for him?
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Wicked...LB makes sense at that spot, in part because it isn't a deep year at the
position. I think DT should also be a priority but one should be able to get a good DT in the third and maybe evne 4th
rounds
[supersaint15]: is kai parham in the 2nd a reach?
[streetcar]: also on LSU how far do you think the drug charges will drop Claude Wroten? Could he be a steal
somewhere?
[wicked_dynamics]: I told'em that the LB position isnt very deep compared to the recent ones, most notably!!!!!
[Chad504boy]: problem is the saints don't have a 3rd as of now, I hope the saints acquire a third before the draft...
looks like we can get some great value this year in that round
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Super...Parham is a good player but it isn't all that highly rated; more a 4-5 round
type player who lacks special athleticism....I doubt he'll get anywhere near 4.55
[goodgulf71]: if they have drug charges they are rarely a good pick
[supersaint15]: thats what they had on nfldraftscout.com
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Streetcar...those charges will definiely drop Wroten who had been moving up draft
boards around the league. He'll drop at least a round or two and if the charges aren't cleared up by April could really fall
[supersaint15]: who at the #34 spot would be a good linebacker to take if avaliable
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Colin, do you like Antonio Cromartie?
[goodgulf71]: take best position at 34
[Chad504boy]: Colin, do you see any projected 1st round OT's possibly dropping into the 2nd... if so which one's do
you think have a chance at dropping some?
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Super...My sense is that Parham is a mid rounder (that's what he was told by the
NFL advisory committee)...again I suspect he'll run in the 4.75-4.8 range which is very average
[Dr.Lecter]: Any ideas on the Bills plans? I have dreams of Ferguson falling, but most predictions seem to be Ngata.
I would like Mario Williams too.
[Colin Lindsay's Senior Bowl Draft Chat]: saintsrule04 has entered at 3:01 am
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Chad..As I mentioned above all of Winston, McNeill and Scott are dropping. Scott
is the msot likely to be there in #2
[Saints Fan in Austin]: welcome saintsrule!
[Chad504boy]: Colin, are you familar with Dennis Roland at all from Georgia. His dad is the HC at Southeastern
Louisiana University and I personally think Dennis could be a steal in the midrounds
[Saints Fan in Austin]: If McNeil is there at #34, he's the pick, right Colin?
[supersaint15]: what about a linebacker ?
[saintsrule04]: thanks austin
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Lecter...you've got great taste but its hard to see Ferguson getting by #4;
Williams could slip by GB if they go RB or some such but dropping all the way to the Bills is a reach; he's just too
good...and yes that would likely leave someone like Ngata because I don't think the other OTs are worth that high a
pick as of now
[streetcar]: I would die for that Austin
[saintsrule04]: we definetly need an impact linebacker in the 2nd round
[supersaint15]: who would be the better pick hodge or jackson
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Chad...Roland is a very good player but more a RT or even OG prospect. Good
player but I would hope the Saints could answer some other needs before going with someone like Roland who could
go undrafted
[Dr.Lecter]: Thanks. I can still hope for AJ Hawk.
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Fan: McNeill would be tough to pass on at 34 unless AJ Hawk were still there!!
[streetcar]: how could hawk still be there?
[Saints Fan in Austin]: LOL!
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Thanks!
[Saints Fan in Austin]: He was joking street!
[saintsrule04]: LOL
[streetcar]: I thought he broke his knee or something lol
[Dr.Lecter]: If the Bills go to a 3-4, they might take Hawk!
[streetcar]: dense
[saintsrule04]: I say we trade next years first round pick to get A.J. Hawk also
[Chad504boy]: get off the short bus street
[streetcar]: Billy picked me up j/k
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Colin, any rumors from down there in Mobile? Have you seen the Saints huddled
around anybody?
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Lecter...that would be interesting; hawk would also have to get past Oakland at
6-7
[wicked_dynamics]: the bus with the cool tires??
[Chad504boy]: Colin, Any nice WR prospects in the mid rounds to keep an eye on?
[streetcar]: lol
[BillyCarpenter1]: I know we're talking about the draft, but do you know anything about our new defensive
cooridnator - Gary Gibbs? Good coach?
[Dr.Lecter]: Hawk-Spikes-Fletcher-Crowell at LB is something to drool about.
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: fan: No we only see scouts huddled around each other...surprisingly we don't
actually here much more than you do because everyone is especially closed mouthed
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Colin, where will Skyler Green go, and can he play WR or will he just be a returner?
[supersaint15]: i would trade next years 1st rounder, and our second this year to pick up aj hawk
[saintsrule04]: Does anybody know what the status is on Chase Lyman from last year. I saw some highlights of him
in college he was a lights out player, but he would get hurt drinking a cup of gatorade.
[Chad504boy]: who's chase lyman?
[saintsrule04]: i think that was his name??? the WR from Cal we drafted
[streetcar]: lol
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Yea Colin, how did you feel about Chase Lyman last year?
[Chad504boy]: i know.... i was kidding
[streetcar]: the glass house
[wicked_dynamics]: Colin, Who has impressed you the most down there at the Senior Bowl Practices?
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Chad...this is a lousy year at WR but there have been some guys who played
well down here including Stovall from ND, Moss from Miami, among others. Anthony Mix from Auburn has also been
something of a relevation down here
[Chad504boy]: stovall would be a nice addition, saints are lacking size
[streetcar]: How will Moss stack up to his brother?
[supersaint15]: who are some good linebakers that are improving there stock
[wicked_dynamics]: stovall is a great blocker, he has that tenacity at the WR
[Chad504boy]: will abdul hodge be long gone by pick 34?
[supersaint15]: i dont think he will
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Guys that we have really liked include Ferguson, Tye Hill, Chad Greenway,
Manny Lawson (3-4 OLB), Hali,
[goodgulf71]: How high can Ferguson go
[Chad504boy]:
[supersaint15]: it would be hard to choose between hodge and jackson
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Chad...If hodge is gone it won't be long...he's a good player but a little undersized
and those kind of guys (see Tatupu and Thurman) tend to slip
[Chad504boy]: how do you think hodge will fair in the pro game?
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Saint...I agree; and one should be available at #34...
[streetcar]: Who are the sleepers to keep your eyes on this week In your opinion?
[wicked_dynamics]: what one player has impressed you the most so far?
[supersaint15]: is dquell jackson impressing scouts
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Gulf...Bush, Young and Leinart are locks to be 1-2-3 and Ferguson looks to be
alock to be #4
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Let's give Colin a chance to answer the questions. Just a little slower guys.
[Chad504boy]: hey austin, this chat thing is pretty cool
[supersaint15]: young or leinart who do we take?
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Not that slow guys!
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Could Ty Hill fall to #34?
[Dr.Lecter]: Who looks good at CB that might be ther in Round #2 for Buffalo (If/when Nate Clements leaves)
[goodgulf71]: seems like someone always shoots up for no reason
[streetcar]: so did I
[BillyCarpenter1]: me too
[Dr.Lecter]: ho looks good at CB that might be there in Round #2 for Buffalo (If/when Nate Clements leaves)
[goodgulf71]: hello again
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Gotta move this server or something
[Colin Lindsay's Senior Bowl Draft Chat]: wicked_dynamics has entered at 3:01 am
[Chad504boy]: give it a shake
[saintsrule04]: Since I was late getting here, is the consesus that we are taking Matt Leinart with the #2 pick?
[streetcar]: we all did
[supersaint15]: i would take leinart
[goodgulf71]: how do you see the saints going in rounds 2-4
[streetcar]: yes 04
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: I am back again!! Who ever asked Jackson hasn't done much to hurt himself but
also hasn't shown the kind of special athleticism to really move up
[supersaint15]: so hodge over jackson?
[Chad504boy]: colin, where do you see cameron vaughn being picked?
[supersaint15]: colin, who would you take at number 2 young or leinart
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Saint..that's what I would do but they are both good prospects early in the second
round. I guess the one thing Jackson might give you is that he could also play OLB whereas Hodge is more a pure
MLB..
[saintsrule04]: we definetly don't need another project at QB with Young
[Saints Fan in Austin]: How do you feel about Ty Hill, Antonio Cromartie, and Jimmy Williams?
[supersaint15]: anyone know anything about alfred fincher, could he be are solution to are mlb problem
[wicked_dynamics]: colin, do you know of DL Manase Hopoi, if so where do you see him projected at
going?
[streetcar]: well since our questions dropped, who are the sleepers to keep an eye on this week?
[Chad504boy]: I have my doubts about courtney watson making it as a stud MLB for our team... would like him to
play strongside for us
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Chad...I am not sold on Young. He was great in college but made more plays
with his legs than passing; in the NFL he will hav eto win games with his arm almsot exclusively and I am not sure
he has that
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Chad...Vaughn looks like a lat rounder of free agent
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Colin, how did you feel about Chase Lyman last draft?
[Chad504boy]: wow, that far.... whats his knock? 40 time? size?
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Chad...I agree; the Saints defense needs to get faster starting at MLB; Watson is
a nic eplayer but more a #4 type who can back up at a couple of spots
[BillyCarpenter1]: One last question for me: Just to get an idea of how talented Leinart is, how does in
compare in relation to someone like Eli Manning?
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Billy: As a prospect Leinart is probably behind guys like Manning mostly because
of the arm strength
[Dr.Lecter]: Who at OL could the Bills grab in Round #2? I assume the guy from Miami (Watson?) will be gone.
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Fan...Lyman could be a steal if he can stay healthy
[Chad504boy]: we heard the same about cie grant colin
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Lecter...It looks like at least one or two of Winston, McNeill, and Scott could drop
to Rd 2 most likely Scott
[Dr.Lecter]: I can live with that.
[supersaint15]: so if scotts avliable and so is jackson who do we take
[streetcar]: we'll grab McNeill for you Dr.L
[Saints Fan in Austin]: What will come of Michael Robinson, Colin?
[Chad504boy]: colin, i forget the penn st. qb's name.... where do you project him? Could he be a late riser mainly bc
of the lack of depth at the position this year?
[Chad504boy]: great minds think alike!! lol
[Saints Fan in Austin]: By the way guys, if you're in the chat, stay logged onto the main site. The site and
the chat sync up to keep everything current.
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: FYI several lesser known players who have played well here are Pat Watkins,
Deuce Lutui, Dan Bullocks, Roman Harper,
[supersaint15]: joshs younger brother is a good strong safety
[Chad504boy]: dan bullocks is no stranger to us...
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Chad...Mike Robinson will be drafted late 3rd or 4th at the earliest as a WR...
[streetcar]: Dan is Joshs Brother right?
[supersaint15]: yes
[Chad504boy]: twin brother i might add
[wicked_dynamics]: no
[Dr.Lecter]: What scares me about Scott is takine another tackel from Texas. The last one has not panned out.
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Street..yes and he has shown nice instincts and great range here
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Who is the best TE in this years draft?
[supersaint15]: i would take scott over jackson
[wicked_dynamics]: is he a better tackler than his brother?
[supersaint15]: hayes or lewis
[Chad504boy]: thunder and lightning, dan is thunder, josh is lightning
[Saints Fan in Austin]: I think it's Vernon Davis, but Colin is the expert!
[Chad504boy]: hornets down by 20 w/ 10 minutes left FYI
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: fan: There are three real good ones in Lewis, Pope and Maryland's Davis who is
probably #1 though he is short at 6-2. This is another position though that is very deep. Byrd from USC has been
good here
[Chad504boy]: pope is going to be solid in the NFL
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Can Byrd stretch the field though
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Chad..no Josh is faster more athletic and more opportunistic but they would be a
nice pair
[Chad504boy]: oh i agree, dan is more of the strong safety type and josh is the free safety and can give you range
type... they compliment each other very well
[streetcar]: get some telepathy going on in the Defense lol
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: How about 2-3 questions...I have to a radio with John Marie (?) in NO at @ 9:15
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Colin, if you were the Saints GM, which players would make it a successful draft?
[BillyCarpenter1]: Good question, Greg. And one I was about to ask.
[Dr.Lecter]: What player do you like the most that is flying under the radar?
[streetcar]: Any ideas on when and what the Saints are getting in Katrina extra picks?
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Fan: I think if you got Leinart in 1; Hodge in 2 and a decent DT in 4 (and one
should be available there) you'd have to fell pretty good about yourselves
[Dr.Lecter]: Saints fans, the Bills have an extra #3 so come up with a good deal.
[Chad504boy]: Out of bush, leinart, young, ferguson and hawk... who's the safest pick, and who's the riskiest pick?
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Lecter...RB Jerious Norwood from Miss State was the best player nobody heard
of at Mobile. Another guy we are high who isn't here as your real sleeper is a TE from Pittsburg State named
Twito...6-8 former BB player
[Chad504boy]: lecter, how bout holcomb and both your 3rd's and swapping 1st?
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Last question guys!
[streetcar]: thanks for your time Colin so i dont forget later
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Chad...Ferguson is probably money in the bank; Young and maybe even Hawk
are the riskiest
[Dr.Lecter]: I am no Holcomb fan. I would give up the 2 #3's to get Ferguson!!!!!!
[wicked_dynamics]: Thanks Colin
[Dr.Lecter]: Thanks a bunch for doing this Colin. It is much appreciated.
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Thank you very much Colin! We've really enjoyed the Chat! Sorry it took so long to
figure out what's up with the site booting!
[Chad504boy]: Colin, i liked all your answers... appreciate it
[BillyCarpenter1]: Great information, Colin. Thanks much!
[wicked_dynamics]: well, I'll be at the forums.........
[Colin Lindsay - GBNReport.com]: Thanks guys...give me a shout in a few weeks or whenever when we will have a
little more time and things will have crystalized a bit...Cheers
[streetcar]: Diva is a lurker lol
[streetcar]: thanks
[Dr.Lecter]: Will Kiwanuka be OK?
[streetcar]: have a great night
[Dr.Lecter]: Or is he too raw?
[Saints Fan in Austin]: And, don't forget to check out Colins' draft guide over at GBNReport.com
[Saints Fan in Austin]: http://www.gbnreport.com/
[Dr.Lecter]: Thanks SFiA. This was fun again. Good luck in the draft!
[Saints Fan in Austin]: Not a problem! Glad you made it!

jergensl

real good post

TheDeuce

ewww Billy Carpenter.....

Otherwise, good read. Anybody else notice that he said Hawk was almost as risky as Vince Young?

saintswhodi

Yeah I know. But Billy asked the Leinart questions so he could know if he could start sucking Vince off yet, or have to stick with Leinart.

D_it_up

I'm surprised he wasn't whining about Aaron Brooks during the chat.

spkb25

yeah well even this guy seems to have the same opinion that young could go either way. i think he even said at one point that young has done more with his legs then arm. i think most of everyone else sees it. i just hope our new staff does. billy? moron
good post whodi