Schuab for a 2nd?

coastalkid · 02-01-2006, 10:36 AM

Exactly...he has proven what he can do in the NFL. Leinert has proven what he can do on the college level. No reason to believe he can't make it in the NFL but there is no "sure thing" now days. I like the possibilities associated with the trade. A proven QB plus more opportunities to select proven college players with hopes that they will develope.

mjf150 · 02-01-2006, 10:51 AM

I would make the trade for our current second round pick. And while I respect the arguements of those who say that the pick is essentually a late first round pick, I do not agree. There are more teams in the NFL now then there has ever been - 32. So, if you were to make a totally theoretical assumption about what a pick is or isn't, then it would be more logical to say that a 29-32 pick in the first round is essentually a early second round pick because if we went back to early '90's, when there were only 28 teams, that is exactly what they would be.

FatiusJeebs · 02-01-2006, 11:04 AM

Thank you mjf. I agree. Well if we need a QB and we want a second round pick...maybe it is worth it. I say grab Schaub...grab their lower 2nd rounder and give them ours. Or maybe a conditional pick in the '07 draft.

hagan714 · 02-01-2006, 07:28 PM

http://www.daytondailynews.com/sport...130inside.html

ÃƒÂƒÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â€ÂšÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÂ‚Ã‚Â¢ The Atlanta Falcons are willing to part with backup QB Matt Schaub for a second-round pick. If the Bengals choose not to re-sign free agent Jon Kitna, Schaub could emerge as a candidate to bridge the gap until Carson Palmer's return from a left knee injury.

Trade down form 2 then give up the #2 we get in the trade and i am all for it.
Now Schaub is a stud. He has proven it. cheap cheap cheap

CheramieIII · 02-01-2006, 07:40 PM

Trade down form 2 then give up the #2 we get in the trade and i am all for it.
Now Schaub is a stud. He has proven it. cheap cheap cheap

Now your thinking. I don't know about cheap, but he would be alot cheaper then the 2 QB's we are talking about taking and we could get a few more picks out of the deal.

Schaub, Volek, Kitna, Collins or Ferotte take your pick they have experience and could help the team now, not in a year or two because I don't think Young or Leinart would have an impact next year and we don't want to keep AB now do we?

hagan714 · 02-01-2006, 08:22 PM

hey cher we have been preaching this for months. swab a second and his salary is cheap.

saintswhodi · 02-01-2006, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by mjf150

I would make the trade for our current second round pick. And while I respect the arguements of those who say that the pick is essentually a late first round pick, I do not agree. There are more teams in the NFL now then there has ever been - 32. So, if you were to make a totally theoretical assumption about what a pick is or isn't, then it would be more logical to say that a 29-32 pick in the first round is essentually a early second round pick because if we went back to early '90's, when there were only 28 teams, that is exactly what they would be.

Actually, the exact opposite of what you said is true. With the internet, video cameras, combine, game film for EVERY possible pro athlete, and more and more scouts, MORE prospects actually get found and are able to be drafted than ever before. There may be 4 more teams, but there are DOZENS more players who could possibly be first round selections simply due to the amount of coverage that is now available on EVERY prsopect. Teams are no longer drafting blind as much as they had been in the past. This expands the draft pool more and more as each year goes by.

GoldenTomb · 02-02-2006, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

http://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/content/sports/bengals/daily/0130inside.html

ÃƒÂƒÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â€ÂšÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÂ‚Ã‚Â¢ The Atlanta Falcons are willing to part with backup QB Matt Schaub for a second-round pick. If the Bengals choose not to re-sign free agent Jon Kitna, Schaub could emerge as a candidate to bridge the gap until Carson Palmer's return from a left knee injury.

Trade down form 2 then give up the #2 we get in the trade and i am all for it.
Now Schaub is a stud. He has proven it. cheap cheap cheap

While i have been on the Leinart bandwagon as of late, this scenario would be golden. A STUD???? I wouldn't go that far. If he was ATL wouldn't be willing to part with him for a second. However, Schaub is more than capable when compared to guys like AB and Boller who have/had starting jobs in the NFL.

02-01-2006, 10:51 AM	#32
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 747	I would make the trade for our current second round pick. And while I respect the arguements of those who say that the pick is essentually a late first round pick, I do not agree. There are more teams in the NFL now then there has ever been - 32. So, if you were to make a totally theoretical assumption about what a pick is or isn't, then it would be more logical to say that a 29-32 pick in the first round is essentually a early second round pick because if we went back to early '90's, when there were only 28 teams, that is exactly what they would be.
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02-01-2006, 11:04 AM	#33
FatiusJeebs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 973	Thank you mjf. I agree. Well if we need a QB and we want a second round pick...maybe it is worth it. I say grab Schaub...grab their lower 2nd rounder and give them ours. Or maybe a conditional pick in the '07 draft.
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02-01-2006, 07:40 PM	#35
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Trade down form 2 then give up the #2 we get in the trade and i am all for it. Now Schaub is a stud. He has proven it. cheap cheap cheap Now your thinking. I don't know about cheap, but he would be alot cheaper then the 2 QB's we are talking about taking and we could get a few more picks out of the deal. Schaub, Volek, Kitna, Collins or Ferotte take your pick they have experience and could help the team now, not in a year or two because I don't think Young or Leinart would have an impact next year and we don't want to keep AB now do we?

02-01-2006, 10:05 PM	#37
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by mjf150 I would make the trade for our current second round pick. And while I respect the arguements of those who say that the pick is essentually a late first round pick, I do not agree. There are more teams in the NFL now then there has ever been - 32. So, if you were to make a totally theoretical assumption about what a pick is or isn't, then it would be more logical to say that a 29-32 pick in the first round is essentually a early second round pick because if we went back to early '90's, when there were only 28 teams, that is exactly what they would be. Actually, the exact opposite of what you said is true. With the internet, video cameras, combine, game film for EVERY possible pro athlete, and more and more scouts, MORE prospects actually get found and are able to be drafted than ever before. There may be 4 more teams, but there are DOZENS more players who could possibly be first round selections simply due to the amount of coverage that is now available on EVERY prsopect. Teams are no longer drafting blind as much as they had been in the past. This expands the draft pool more and more as each year goes by.

02-02-2006, 12:47 AM	#38
GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	Originally Posted by hagan714 http://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/content/sports/bengals/daily/0130inside.html ÃƒÂƒÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â€ÂšÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÂ‚Ã‚Â¢ The Atlanta Falcons are willing to part with backup QB Matt Schaub for a second-round pick. If the Bengals choose not to re-sign free agent Jon Kitna, Schaub could emerge as a candidate to bridge the gap until Carson Palmer's return from a left knee injury. Trade down form 2 then give up the #2 we get in the trade and i am all for it. Now Schaub is a stud. He has proven it. cheap cheap cheap While i have been on the Leinart bandwagon as of late, this scenario would be golden. A STUD???? I wouldn't go that far. If he was ATL wouldn't be willing to part with him for a second. However, Schaub is more than capable when compared to guys like AB and Boller who have/had starting jobs in the NFL.
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02-01-2006, 10:36 AM	#31
coastalkid 100th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 287	Exactly...he has proven what he can do in the NFL. Leinert has proven what he can do on the college level. No reason to believe he can't make it in the NFL but there is no "sure thing" now days. I like the possibilities associated with the trade. A proven QB plus more opportunities to select proven college players with hopes that they will develope.

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02-01-2006, 07:28 PM	#34
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	http://www.daytondailynews.com/sport...130inside.html ÃƒÂƒÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â€ÂšÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÂ‚Ã‚Â¢ The Atlanta Falcons are willing to part with backup QB Matt Schaub for a second-round pick. If the Bengals choose not to re-sign free agent Jon Kitna, Schaub could emerge as a candidate to bridge the gap until Carson Palmer's return from a left knee injury. Trade down form 2 then give up the #2 we get in the trade and i am all for it. Now Schaub is a stud. He has proven it. cheap cheap cheap

02-01-2006, 08:22 PM	#36
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	hey cher we have been preaching this for months. swab a second and his salary is cheap.