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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; With the draft approaching it seems everyone is hyped up on Leinhart. I think with Brooks (Saints All-Time leading QB) and McPherson and Peyton's rep as a QB cultivator that selecting a QB is the wrong way to go. We ...

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Old 02-17-2006, 06:12 PM   #1
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2006 Draft

With the draft approaching it seems everyone is hyped up on Leinhart. I think with Brooks (Saints All-Time leading QB) and McPherson and Peyton's rep as a QB cultivator that selecting a QB is the wrong way to go.

We obviously can't afford Howard and we need to re-sign Bentley. We need a solid DT so maybe we can trade Howard to a team desperate for a great DE for a DT or solid LB (we need all of them so no particular spot - hopefully a MLB)

Hopefully we can trade down in the draft and pick up a second round pick and get D'Brickshaw at LT to replace Gandy. He along with Brown will give us bookend OT's to go with Bentley.

We need to use our remaining picks on DT, LBs, and DBs. Hopefully we can sign a free agent LB and DB and use the draft choices after D'Brickshaw to build up the DL and LB corp.

I know this is not popular opinion, but it would give us the most competiitve, well-rounded team.
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Old 02-17-2006, 07:17 PM   #2
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I agree with you 98%. we should get rid of AB and sign Griese from the bucs, and maybe draft a wr (sinorice moss).
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Old 02-17-2006, 07:49 PM   #3
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sign Griese from the bucs
Why in the world would we do that? The guy is getting up there in age, just tore his ACL (which even the youngest guys in the league have trouble recovering from), and he's just not all that good. We have the opportunity to draft a franchise QB. Why settle for an over the hill QB who might never recover fully?

maybe draft a wr (sinorice moss).
Moss will go no later than the 2nd round. Seeing as how we have the second pick in the second draft, and we have much more glaring needs, there's absolutely no reason to draft a WR that high.

Hopefully we can trade down in the draft and pick up a second round pick and get D'Brickshaw at LT to replace Gandy. He along with Brown will give us bookend OT's to go with Bentley.
DJ, I agree, this would be a very good situation, and I can't say that if we ended up doing this, that I'd be mad. However, I think that there are MUCH more glaring holes on this team. But you don't have to just listen to me, Scouts Inc. (who works with ESPN), has our needs listed as:

Top five needs: OLB, QB, DT, TE, RB
So even though having D'Brick and Brown at the tackles would be pretty intimidating, I think that our offensive line right now is pretty good. Also, there are a lot of good linemen in FA this year. And a franchise QB isn't just something that you find around the corner.
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Old 02-17-2006, 08:59 PM   #4
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Duece, i'm not saying that griese is a franchise qb. if check his stats out from before he got hurt he did a solid job. the most important stat was that he was 5-1 as the starter, and has playoff experience with the broncos. For all we know linehart and young could be busts....its been proven that all franchise qb's are picked in the 1st rd....I don't believe moss is worth that high of a pick. From my point of view, if we trade down and get an extra 2nd rd pick, then it might be a good idea.
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Old 02-17-2006, 09:11 PM   #5
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I just don't think we can pass up on a guy like Matt Leinart. He's graded too high and he has just shown too much skill the last three years. He has unbelievable accuracy and he's proved he's a winner. So while Griese is a decent QB, probably in the middle/bottom third of the league; there's just no way we can pass up on a guy who has the ability to do for the Saints what Manning did for the Colts.

Mel, Do you think the Saints will go with Leinart instead of trading down for more picks?

Mel Kiper: I don't think they can afford to. They have to start a new era of Saints football. How in the heck do you pass up on Leinart or Young? You have two big time prospects staring you in the face. Why would you give up an opportunity at one of those guys. I think they'll take Leinart. They're guaranteed one of the two. There's no way I would think about trading out of there.
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I don't believe moss is worth that high of a pick.
Well you might not, but experts who know more about the draft than anybody else do. Scouts Inc have him going #22 to Denver (from Washington). Mel Kiper has him going #29 to Denver. So, although I respect your opinion, I just don't agree with you. Moss had an amazing Senior Bowl, and really upped his value. He won't be there past the first round.
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Old 02-17-2006, 10:53 PM   #6
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The Saints need a face on their franchise in a bad way. That is why they will, or at least should, draft Matt Leinart. If drafted by the Saints, Leinart will probably be the opening day starter. He will draw major attention to the Saints organization, help fill seats in the Superdome, attract national tv audiences, and has the potential to be a darn good QB. In my mind there is no way they can pass on this guy. There are few opportunities to draft greatness. The Saints now have that chance. They better not blow it by doing something silly, like sticking with Brooks...
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Old 02-18-2006, 12:58 AM   #7
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the reason why I'm not sold on moss is that he performed really well in the senior bowl, but i dont believe in all stars games. I heard one the espn guys say that the defense for the senior bowl was vey limited. look what moss did in live action.....2 rec for 10 yds vs LSU; 4rec for27yds vs Va. TEch.; and only 23 total yds agianst flordia st. heere the link if you don;t belive me....http://www.sportsline.com/collegefoo...ayerpage/41736
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Old 02-18-2006, 02:18 AM   #8
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I believe you. But you also have to look at his raw talent. The guy is unbelievably fast, quick, and good hands. And it's not the Senior Bowl game that drew the attention of so many NFL scouts and experts as it was the Senior Bowl practices. He proved he was the best at the Senior Bowl week, and he did all of that with a broken finger.

And about his poor stats in some of those games, most experts who cover college football understand that he was underutilized by the Miami offense. So even though you might "not be sold" on Moss, the experts who do this stuff for a living are. He'll go in the first or early second.
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Old 02-18-2006, 04:41 AM   #9
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miami also didnt really utilize him in a way that he can showcase all his skills... i was at the peach bowl... they barely threw to him...
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Old 02-18-2006, 09:24 AM   #10
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I have a severe case of non sequituritis here:

I think with Brooks (Saints All-Time leading QB) and McPherson and Peyton's rep as a QB cultivator that selecting a QB is the wrong way to go.
OK. I get that. But the response?
I agree with you 98%. we should get rid of AB...
Huh?

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