Cap casualties for all 32 teams (possibly)
 

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New Orleans Saints
Player,Cap number,2006 savings

S Jay Bellamy$1,150,000 $650,000

QB Todd Bouman$1,443,333 $1,024,999

QB Aaron Brooks $8,483,333 $4,516,665

TE Ernie Conwel $2,095,000 $1,255,000

OL Jermane Mayberry$4,245,000 $120,000

CB Fred Thomas $4,150,000 $1,650,000

yall kinda get the picture right oh well just go look at it on the site.........

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I say we cut Bellamy, Brooks, and Conwell. I don't see us cutting Mayberry, even if the 2006 savings were greater. I think he can be a very good OL for this team. I'm not sure about Bouman, it depends on if we sign a vet FA QB or not. If we do, and we draft Leinart, I think Bouman will be gone. And I personally like Fred Thomas. He might be old and what not, but I think he's a competitor and is good senior leadership for this team.

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That would save us another 8.2 million and I would like some of the following Ferotte, Harrinton, Volek, Kenard Lang, Sam Adams, Jimmy Smith, Eric Moulds, Glover, Coles, Collins, Mawae, Sharper, Derrick Brooks, Griese.

But it's only a dream. Maybe they know something we don't, well except that Brooks and Bouman will be cut.

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All of this assumes the NFL & NFLPA sign a new Collective Bagaining Agreement similar to the one in place. If not all bets are off. The signing bonuses that could still be spread out over two years would be in effect for this year since the Salary Cap would be gone in 2007. All of those 2006 savings nubers would be wrong.

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New Orleans Saints
Player,Cap number,2006 savings
S Jay Bellamy$1,150,000 $650,000 - STAY
QB Todd Bouman$1,443,333 $1,024,999 - AXE
QB Aaron Brooks $8,483,333 $4,516,665 - TRADE
TE Ernie Conwel $2,095,000 $1,255,000 - AXE (unless new contract)
OL Jermane Mayberry$4,245,000 $120,000 - TRADE
CB Fred Thomas $4,150,000 $1,650,000 - TRADE (unless new contract)

The signing bonuses that could still be spread out over two years would be in effect for this year since the Salary Cap would be gone in 2007. All of those 2006 savings nubers would be wrong.

Football will become baseball. Largest wallet can win it all. No superbowl ever for the saints if there is no cap!

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..speaking of other team's cap casualties, there's talk that Edgerrin James or Shawn Alexander could end up in the NFC South.

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Edgririn i can see a change but i do not see Shawn going else where. Why would Hutchenson get the Tag at G unless thing are favorable signing Shawn to a long term contract. As so many here have pointed out a perrinnal pro bowler at G or C is simple to replace and not important or worth the $$$.
They will be in the playoffs next year and have a shoot at the superbowl with these moves and we will not.
I guess time will tell.

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Keep Bellamy and Thomas. Those 2 have always produced for us. Everyone else.....should either be axed or traded.

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Keep Bellamy and Thomas? WHAT?!?!?!?!?!? I am starting to have serious doubts you are really a Saints fan. Yous eem to wanna sabotage this team more than help it. :wink:

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Whodi....I can't understand you. Bellamy has done a good job for us. Unfortunately he was injured. Thomas was always getting the shaft from Haslett. When someone went down he would always come in and produce. I've seen Thomas deflect a lot of passes. How can you say I wanna ruin this team?

I think Bellamy should stay. He is a good at helping out in the run and he would be a good backup.
Bouman is gone. He stunk as a back-up during Pre-season and as a starter after AB was benched. He is old and we have a young back-up in AMAC. He doesn't have NFL experience but he has been a star before with plenty of up-side.

AB, he is a tough one. He would save us a lot. He has worn out his welcome with most fans and he did play poorly last year. But I think he can be a value. I say keep him until the Draft. We may be able to get a good pick for him, if not, we can see if we what holes we still need and cut or trade him after the draft.

Conwell is old and past his prime. Cut him we have Hilton and maybe williams if he rededicatates himself. We will still need a blocking TE that we can get in FA.

Mayberry was a wasted last year. We can get a G in the draft of even a FA. He was a backup, so we can get a backup with the same skills somewhere else, and it would probably be younger.

Fred Thomas is not a starter. He can be a good Nickle back. But we do need a starter. Brown is not that good and he can play Nickle. If we get a starting CB via FA then I say cut or trade Thomas and put brown as a Nickle back.

Bellamy can go... as far as Thomas, he's productive and can stay. A 4 million dollar cap charge is pretty steep though... so it's debateable if we can sign a quality corner to replace him. I think Ahmad Plummer deserves a good look this off season.

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Dwight Smith=better than Bellamy. They play the same position at that.
Josh Bullocks=FAR FAR FAR more range than Bellamy, and he will be in his second season, coming off a year where he didn't play poorly. So what's Bellamy's role, cheerleader? Bye bye.

As far as Fred Thomas goes, salary dictates a move there, and he is like 32 or something. If he takes a paycut, cool. If not, bye bye. Again, the things you propose make me feel like you would rather this team just stay the same and suck, rather than try to improve.

Bullocks? I don't remember him doing anything spectacular. Anyhow we obviously see these players in a different light. I remember Bellamy and Thomas comin in and doin their jobs well. As far as Dwight Smith and Bellamy I agree. Smith is much better and a better tackler but Bullocks? I thought he made a great impression of burnt toast as far as I'm concerned.

Bellamy had one good year here (the year before last)... other than that, he was average if even that. Bullocks is going to patrol our secondary for a very long time... I suggest you get use to "burnt toast". Bullocks is going to be a ball hawking playmaker for years to come.

I hope so papz. I really hope so.

I have never seen anyone this far off on player evaluations. I am beginning to feel like I did when people would join just to say the opposite of what everyone else does. Of course these are all opinions, but yikes. Jeebs, I have to wonder what team you have been watching all this time. You seem to disagree with everything almost everyone else says about players. Is that by design?

Truth whodi... I watch the games. Whenever I saw Bellamy and Thomas come in (I know Bell was injured but I remember last year) they came in and played solidly. Thomas broke up numerous plays and Bellamy was good at stopping the run. How am I off?

I dont want to see Thomas go i really like him .....
Bellamy can go we have Bullocks oh yeah and ernie well he sure does get injured lot.... and plus we hot hilton i really like him..... and brooks bouman bye bye bye mayberry didnt really do nuthing for me ...