Mawae or Bently?

papz · 03-06-2006, 09:19 PM

Bledsoe was better than Brady when he was let go. Damien Woody was let go and replaced with a rookie. Ty Law and Lawyer Milloy was both let go and replaced with 4th round and undrafted rookies. I forgot who Koppen replaced but I surely know what round he came out of. Bertrand Berry was let go after recording 10 plus sacks. Delta O'Neil was let go as was Ian Gold. Mike Anderson was cut and they're putting Tatum Bell on the market. Everyone on that Denver D-line was replaced with Clevelands front line and they got better.

Trust me I'm not missing your point at all... I don't think you're getting my point.

Ross out of BC in the 4th round would be a nice replacement for Bentley. I'm in favor of taking Mangold in the second but if we chose to go another route, that's my choice for a center in this draft.

GoldRush26 · 03-06-2006, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Bledsoe was better than Brady when he was let go. Damien Woody was let go and replaced with a rookie. Ty Law and Lawyer Milloy was both let go and replaced with 4th round and undrafted rookies. I forgot who Koppen replaced but I surely know what round he came out of. Bertrand Berry was let go after recording 10 plus sacks. Delta O'Neil was let go as was Ian Gold. Mike Anderson was cut and they're putting Tatum Bell on the market. Everyone on that Denver D-line was replaced with Clevelands front line and they got better.

Trust me I'm not missing your point at all... I don't think you're getting my point.

Ross out of BC in the 4th round would be a nice replacement for Bentley. I'm in favor of taking Mangold in the second but if we chose to go another route, that's my choice for a center in this draft.

Yet through all of these examples you failed to name a single instance in which an OFFENSIVE LINE lost their best player and got better. O-line is a totally different animal than the secondary, D-line or any individual position spot. O-line relies on continuity and chemistry more than any other group, and that's no secret. Our line has been crap because we've had at least 2 different starters each year for the past 4 years or so. No team ever got a great O-line by piecing it together in free agency. That's my point. Why go out and get a less talented player when we had one of the better ones in the league on our team already?? Would we have overpaid for him??? Probably. We overpaid for Horn and Howard last year. At least Bentley would have been more worth it.

We have too many other pressing issues that should be addressed in the draft. We didn't need to create another one by letting Bentley go. Instead of building up we are plugging holes. Now we will miss out on a good LB in round 2 because we didn't take care of Bentley. I am the only one who realizes that the team really fudged this one up????

What's done is done and we can't go back in the past, but we just let our best option go.

SuJaguar00 · 03-06-2006, 09:53 PM

I agree that Management really messed this one up, but it is a foregone conclusion that Bentley is out the door. We have to move forward with the franchise and attempt to fill his roster spot. Also, there are three real good, young LB available right now. Will Witherspoon seems like the most viable option, but you have to mention both Julian Peterson and Lavar Arrington. The latter two carry some injury concerns but both are tops at there position when healthy.

Papz is right about Patrick Ross being there in the 4th and think he could come in a do a good job. I just think we have some more needs at the present time.

GoldRush26 · 03-06-2006, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by SuJaguar00

I agree that Management really messed this one up, but it is a foregone conclusion that Bentley is out the door. We have to move forward with the franchise and attempt to fill his roster spot. Also, there are three real good, young LB available right now. Will Witherspoon seems like the most viable option, but you have to mention both Julian Peterson and Lavar Arrington. The latter two carry some injury concerns but both are tops at there position when healthy.

Papz is right about Patrick Ross being there in the 4th and think he could come in a do a good job. I just think we have some more needs at the present time.

Yeah...i'm done with it because I realize i sound like a whiney cry baby about the whole thing. We gotta do what we gotta do, but there's no way we are better off or as good as we were before letting Bentley go.

papz · 03-06-2006, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by GoldRush26

And my point was that N.E. and Denver don't get rid of their best players and get better.

I think my point was well made already.

Originally Posted by GoldRush26

Yeah...i'm done with it because I realize i sound like a whiney cry baby about the whole thing. We gotta do what we gotta do, but there's no way we are better off or as good as we were before letting Bentley go.

I guess we'll have to wait and see on who we bring in.

CheramieIII · 03-06-2006, 10:48 PM

The Eagles are pulling a fast one, they're not really interested in Bentley or are they:

Eagles | Team interested in Mawae
Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:42:09 -0800

Ken Berger, of Newsday, reports agent Mark Bartelstein said several teams called him Monday, March 6, with interest in free agent OC Kevin Mawae (Jets), and one is believed to be the Philadelphia Eagles.

03-06-2006, 09:36 PM	#12
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Originally Posted by papz Bledsoe was better than Brady when he was let go. Damien Woody was let go and replaced with a rookie. Ty Law and Lawyer Milloy was both let go and replaced with 4th round and undrafted rookies. I forgot who Koppen replaced but I surely know what round he came out of. Bertrand Berry was let go after recording 10 plus sacks. Delta O'Neil was let go as was Ian Gold. Mike Anderson was cut and they're putting Tatum Bell on the market. Everyone on that Denver D-line was replaced with Clevelands front line and they got better. Trust me I'm not missing your point at all... I don't think you're getting my point. Ross out of BC in the 4th round would be a nice replacement for Bentley. I'm in favor of taking Mangold in the second but if we chose to go another route, that's my choice for a center in this draft. Yet through all of these examples you failed to name a single instance in which an OFFENSIVE LINE lost their best player and got better. O-line is a totally different animal than the secondary, D-line or any individual position spot. O-line relies on continuity and chemistry more than any other group, and that's no secret. Our line has been crap because we've had at least 2 different starters each year for the past 4 years or so. No team ever got a great O-line by piecing it together in free agency. That's my point. Why go out and get a less talented player when we had one of the better ones in the league on our team already?? Would we have overpaid for him??? Probably. We overpaid for Horn and Howard last year. At least Bentley would have been more worth it. We have too many other pressing issues that should be addressed in the draft. We didn't need to create another one by letting Bentley go. Instead of building up we are plugging holes. Now we will miss out on a good LB in round 2 because we didn't take care of Bentley. I am the only one who realizes that the team really fudged this one up???? What's done is done and we can't go back in the past, but we just let our best option go.
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03-06-2006, 09:53 PM	#13
SuJaguar00 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 25	I agree that Management really messed this one up, but it is a foregone conclusion that Bentley is out the door. We have to move forward with the franchise and attempt to fill his roster spot. Also, there are three real good, young LB available right now. Will Witherspoon seems like the most viable option, but you have to mention both Julian Peterson and Lavar Arrington. The latter two carry some injury concerns but both are tops at there position when healthy. Papz is right about Patrick Ross being there in the 4th and think he could come in a do a good job. I just think we have some more needs at the present time.
SuJaguar00 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 25

03-06-2006, 10:02 PM	#14
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Originally Posted by SuJaguar00 I agree that Management really messed this one up, but it is a foregone conclusion that Bentley is out the door. We have to move forward with the franchise and attempt to fill his roster spot. Also, there are three real good, young LB available right now. Will Witherspoon seems like the most viable option, but you have to mention both Julian Peterson and Lavar Arrington. The latter two carry some injury concerns but both are tops at there position when healthy. Papz is right about Patrick Ross being there in the 4th and think he could come in a do a good job. I just think we have some more needs at the present time. Yeah...i'm done with it because I realize i sound like a whiney cry baby about the whole thing. We gotta do what we gotta do, but there's no way we are better off or as good as we were before letting Bentley go.
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594

03-06-2006, 10:10 PM	#15
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Originally Posted by GoldRush26 And my point was that N.E. and Denver don't get rid of their best players and get better. I think my point was well made already. Originally Posted by GoldRush26 Yeah...i'm done with it because I realize i sound like a whiney cry baby about the whole thing. We gotta do what we gotta do, but there's no way we are better off or as good as we were before letting Bentley go. I guess we'll have to wait and see on who we bring in.

03-06-2006, 09:19 PM	#11
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Bledsoe was better than Brady when he was let go. Damien Woody was let go and replaced with a rookie. Ty Law and Lawyer Milloy was both let go and replaced with 4th round and undrafted rookies. I forgot who Koppen replaced but I surely know what round he came out of. Bertrand Berry was let go after recording 10 plus sacks. Delta O'Neil was let go as was Ian Gold. Mike Anderson was cut and they're putting Tatum Bell on the market. Everyone on that Denver D-line was replaced with Clevelands front line and they got better. Trust me I'm not missing your point at all... I don't think you're getting my point. Ross out of BC in the 4th round would be a nice replacement for Bentley. I'm in favor of taking Mangold in the second but if we chose to go another route, that's my choice for a center in this draft.

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03-06-2006, 10:48 PM	#16
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	The Eagles are pulling a fast one, they're not really interested in Bentley or are they: Eagles \| Team interested in Mawae Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:42:09 -0800 Ken Berger, of Newsday, reports agent Mark Bartelstein said several teams called him Monday, March 6, with interest in free agent OC Kevin Mawae (Jets), and one is believed to be the Philadelphia Eagles.