Williams or Hawk?

gandhi1007 · 03-15-2006, 05:26 PM

Why would we even waste our top pick on a defensive end. We have two good ones now. We have to go with either Hawk or the Brick House.

jrmllb · 03-15-2006, 07:23 PM

Hawk or D'Brick either is good for me..If it was me in the FO I could not make that decision

cajunsaint · 03-15-2006, 08:23 PM

brick no doubt, let's start up front and then go defense all the way

D-buck47 · 03-15-2006, 08:41 PM

Hawk. In the second either Winston, Greenway, Carpenter. Or maybe Maroney he may fall

D-buck47 · 03-15-2006, 08:43 PM

Hawk was the 2nd best lb in his conference last year.

Hawk is better than Posluszny

zachsaints52 · 03-15-2006, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by jrmllb

Hawk or D'Brick either is good for me..If it was me in the FO I could not make that decision

Very true. Protect your investment, or make a poor defense better?

TheDeuce · 03-15-2006, 08:56 PM

Hawk. In the second either Winston, Greenway, Carpenter. Or maybe Maroney he may fall

Well, we need to trade down and get at least another 2nd rounder. In case any of you guys haven't noticed, we don't have a center. However, a very good one might be available at #34 in Nick Mangold. I say Hawk, Mangold, and then either Winston or another LB with the other 2nd round pick.

ScottBalot · 03-15-2006, 09:32 PM

I think any time you start drafting for need instead of BPA you get in trouble. If the Saints trade down, and Mario Williams is still there, you have to take him. By taking Williams, you are getting the best defensive player in the draft, and he would be an upgrade from Charles Grant. The defense will be better if Williams is the pick. And, if the Saints ever decide to move to a 3-4 both Williams and Smith are suited to play the outside LB spots. Hawk will be good, but I think he'll slide out of the top 5.

dulplay · 03-15-2006, 10:11 PM

Definitely trade down and take Hawk... were talking about an impact LB, something we havent had since the dome patrol days. I know Mark Fields was a ProBowler and yadda yadda... but I dont think hes in the same class as those guys... they all went to the ProBowl, the same year!! Man, I'd love to see something like that again

FatiusJeebs · 03-16-2006, 09:27 AM

I have always preached defensive speed. If Hawk's 4.38 in the 40 is true? No question we get Hawk.

03-15-2006, 08:41 PM	#24
D-buck47 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 162	Hawk. In the second either Winston, Greenway, Carpenter. Or maybe Maroney he may fall
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D-buck47 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 162	Hawk was the 2nd best lb in his conference last year. Hawk is better than Posluszny
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zachsaints52 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Abingdon, Virginia Posts: 522	Originally Posted by jrmllb Hawk or D'Brick either is good for me..If it was me in the FO I could not make that decision Very true. Protect your investment, or make a poor defense better?

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TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Hawk. In the second either Winston, Greenway, Carpenter. Or maybe Maroney he may fall Well, we need to trade down and get at least another 2nd rounder. In case any of you guys haven't noticed, we don't have a center. However, a very good one might be available at #34 in Nick Mangold. I say Hawk, Mangold, and then either Winston or another LB with the other 2nd round pick.
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03-15-2006, 09:32 PM	#28
ScottBalot Registered Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 87	I think any time you start drafting for need instead of BPA you get in trouble. If the Saints trade down, and Mario Williams is still there, you have to take him. By taking Williams, you are getting the best defensive player in the draft, and he would be an upgrade from Charles Grant. The defense will be better if Williams is the pick. And, if the Saints ever decide to move to a 3-4 both Williams and Smith are suited to play the outside LB spots. Hawk will be good, but I think he'll slide out of the top 5.
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gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Why would we even waste our top pick on a defensive end. We have two good ones now. We have to go with either Hawk or the Brick House.

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jrmllb 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Posts: 665	Hawk or D'Brick either is good for me..If it was me in the FO I could not make that decision

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cajunsaint Rookie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kaplan La. Posts: 13	brick no doubt, let's start up front and then go defense all the way

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dulplay Registered Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 62	Definitely trade down and take Hawk... were talking about an impact LB, something we havent had since the dome patrol days. I know Mark Fields was a ProBowler and yadda yadda... but I dont think hes in the same class as those guys... they all went to the ProBowl, the same year!! Man, I'd love to see something like that again
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FatiusJeebs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 973	I have always preached defensive speed. If Hawk's 4.38 in the 40 is true? No question we get Hawk.
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