D'Brick's philosophy

LongTimeFan · 03-20-2006, 03:10 PM

I agree with blackandblue, we can't afford to cut Gandy, he's a good insurance to have, he's not a terrible starter if needed.

Euphoria · 03-20-2006, 03:10 PM

I been saying we need to get da-Brick-House from the begining... QB isn't the answer. OL and D will get us to the playoffs and beyond.

Euphoria · 03-20-2006, 03:18 PM

I would also consider moving up from the second round to the first and snagging Mangold.

pakowitz · 03-20-2006, 03:32 PM

i agree euphoria... i would also like to see us try to get mangold... he will be a good one and he is from OSU just like bentley... with the rumored trade with the jets if they make the deal with seattle... we could be looking at getting jets #4 and seattles #31 would be nice.... 3 of the first 34 picks... id say thats pretty good in any year to pick up some talented players especially in this draft friendly year

JOESAM2002 · 03-20-2006, 04:05 PM

Just a question. Doesn't 3 of the first 34 picks equal a lot of money? You know ole Tommy boy has a pending limit.

pakowitz · 03-20-2006, 04:14 PM

not really... it prolly would cost us about 3-4 million for all of our picks
but we are alotted extra money b/c we have high draft picks

saintswhodi · 03-20-2006, 04:43 PM

I'd pas son D'Brick, especially if we trade down. Now this isn't to say he isn't a great player, cause he damn sure is. But I think we need to improve that D. And Winston Justice or McNeil might be available in the second round. Or we can sign Ashworth. If he can watch Tom Brady's back, he can watch Brees'. I think if we signed D'Brick, we would be watching him or Jamaal leave in a few years. LTs most almost as much as QBs these days. Get Hawk, or Ngata after a trade down, get Mangold in the second, maybe Eric Winston or Winston Justice with the extra pick if you don't get Ashworth. We don't need to make the most beastly O-line possible, cause we actually have a good QB now, and trust me on this, a QB who makes good decisions and gets the ball out on time will do WONDERS for our o-line. We need to stop thinking about this like Brooks is still under center, and Haslett is still the head coach. Hell, look at the Falcons line just from pulling that line coach from Denver. They went to one of the best in the league, and they are a bunch of scrubs. Gotta go D with that first pick IMO.

And like someone else said, Brick pretty much said the same thing as LeCharles, and here we just watched him leave for nothing.

BJSim · 03-20-2006, 04:49 PM

whodi, Justice is projected as a late first rounder as is McNeil. So unless we trade with the Jets for say their first and Atlanta's at 15, THEN trade 15 for Denver's two late 1sts, there isn't much chance of either of those OL players being available. Then again IF we do make a blockbuster trade like above, we can go #4-D, #22-OL, #29-D, #34-OL, and still get a beastly OL and much help to the D.

saintswhodi · 03-20-2006, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by BJSim

whodi, Justice is projected as a late first rounder as is McNeil. So unless we trade with the Jets for say their first and Atlanta's at 15, THEN trade 15 for Denver's two late 1sts, there isn't much chance of either of those OL players being available. Then again IF we do make a blockbuster trade like above, we can go #4-D, #22-OL, #29-D, #34-OL, and still get a beastly OL and much help to the D.

I'm with that. IMO Ashworth should be a priority at LT. Then Gandy restructures or he goes. But one of the three, Justice, McNeil, or Mangold will be there at #34, no matter what other picks we get. Either one of those will be good at their positions. None of them are a D'Brickshaw Ferguson, but if they just play with a nasty attitude and get the job done, that would be an upgrade for us.

03-20-2006, 03:10 PM	#11
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	RE: Re: RE: D I agree with blackandblue, we can't afford to cut Gandy, he's a good insurance to have, he's not a terrible starter if needed.

03-20-2006, 03:10 PM	#12
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	RE: Re: RE: D I been saying we need to get da-Brick-House from the begining... QB isn't the answer. OL and D will get us to the playoffs and beyond.

03-20-2006, 03:18 PM	#13
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	RE: Re: RE: D I would also consider moving up from the second round to the first and snagging Mangold.

03-20-2006, 03:32 PM	#14
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	RE: Re: RE: D i agree euphoria... i would also like to see us try to get mangold... he will be a good one and he is from OSU just like bentley... with the rumored trade with the jets if they make the deal with seattle... we could be looking at getting jets #4 and seattles #31 would be nice.... 3 of the first 34 picks... id say thats pretty good in any year to pick up some talented players especially in this draft friendly year

03-20-2006, 05:13 PM	#19
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by BJSim whodi, Justice is projected as a late first rounder as is McNeil. So unless we trade with the Jets for say their first and Atlanta's at 15, THEN trade 15 for Denver's two late 1sts, there isn't much chance of either of those OL players being available. Then again IF we do make a blockbuster trade like above, we can go #4-D, #22-OL, #29-D, #34-OL, and still get a beastly OL and much help to the D. I'm with that. IMO Ashworth should be a priority at LT. Then Gandy restructures or he goes. But one of the three, Justice, McNeil, or Mangold will be there at #34, no matter what other picks we get. Either one of those will be good at their positions. None of them are a D'Brickshaw Ferguson, but if they just play with a nasty attitude and get the job done, that would be an upgrade for us.

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03-20-2006, 04:05 PM	#15
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Just a question. Doesn't 3 of the first 34 picks equal a lot of money? You know ole Tommy boy has a pending limit.

03-20-2006, 04:14 PM	#16
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	not really... it prolly would cost us about 3-4 million for all of our picks but we are alotted extra money b/c we have high draft picks

03-20-2006, 04:43 PM	#17
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I'd pas son D'Brick, especially if we trade down. Now this isn't to say he isn't a great player, cause he damn sure is. But I think we need to improve that D. And Winston Justice or McNeil might be available in the second round. Or we can sign Ashworth. If he can watch Tom Brady's back, he can watch Brees'. I think if we signed D'Brick, we would be watching him or Jamaal leave in a few years. LTs most almost as much as QBs these days. Get Hawk, or Ngata after a trade down, get Mangold in the second, maybe Eric Winston or Winston Justice with the extra pick if you don't get Ashworth. We don't need to make the most beastly O-line possible, cause we actually have a good QB now, and trust me on this, a QB who makes good decisions and gets the ball out on time will do WONDERS for our o-line. We need to stop thinking about this like Brooks is still under center, and Haslett is still the head coach. Hell, look at the Falcons line just from pulling that line coach from Denver. They went to one of the best in the league, and they are a bunch of scrubs. Gotta go D with that first pick IMO. And like someone else said, Brick pretty much said the same thing as LeCharles, and here we just watched him leave for nothing.

03-20-2006, 04:49 PM	#18
BJSim 500+ posts Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Centreville, VA Posts: 577	whodi, Justice is projected as a late first rounder as is McNeil. So unless we trade with the Jets for say their first and Atlanta's at 15, THEN trade 15 for Denver's two late 1sts, there isn't much chance of either of those OL players being available. Then again IF we do make a blockbuster trade like above, we can go #4-D, #22-OL, #29-D, #34-OL, and still get a beastly OL and much help to the D.