Saints Trading Stallworth?!?!
 

Saints | D. Stallworth discussed in trade talks
Sat, 1 Apr 2006 07:42:51 -0800

ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports New Orleans Saints WR Donte' Stallworth has been discussed in trade talks.


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I hope that he's not traded, I think (IMO) he improved some last year, he's a deep threat, unless we get another good WR I say keep him.
I thought Horn would be traded before Stallworth due to Horn's age, I guess not, I would like to see the two of them stick around being we have Brees, they both should improve their game.

I agree, LTF. I think Stallworth made a vast improvement last year and stayed healthy despite a poor season from the QB position. I can understand why Horn would not be mentioned in trade talks considering his age, but it floors me that Stallworth is even mentioned. Unless they've seen something in Chris Horn and expecting Devery Henderson to step up, then I could understand them dangling him, because Donte carries the highest trade value of any of the receivers. I just sure hope it doesn't happen.

I hope Stallworth stays b/c he has made lots of strides from when we first got him. I still think he can be a great #2 if not eventually a #1 reciever.

Still, he is in his contract year, gonna want serious cash (after not having yet proven he's a number 1) and decided he absolutely had to have an audience with some cops recently. If we can get some team to give up a nice haul, I say go for it.

But only if we get a TON for kid...I really like having him line up for us.

:shock: Tell me this is not true!

What the heck would name be, the artist formerly know as Stallworthfn?

There would have to be some serious compensation coming our way. I can't see it happening unless they are thinking they can get a J. Walker from GB?

Counting on Henderson after the year Stall had last is hoping for a lot I.M.O.

He looks to be on the verge of a breakout year and I would hate to lose him and watch him succeed elsewhere.

ESPN.com posts some crap huh?

Well if he is traded, it will because the current coaching staff doesn't like his pass catching skills. He has dropped quite a few balls his first few years in the league...perhaps Brees' softball may be more catchable than Brooks' fast balls. Perhaps Brees will be more accurate but rest assured if he is traded, we will get something decent in return. I personally don't want to see him traded. He's rebounded pretty good after he got his clock cleaned in this rookie season.

this i totally agree with.........as i said before, all that potential and not enough to show for it.
i think on some of those drops, donte heard imaginary footsteps......maybe he could break out or maybe he's just not what the new coaching staff is looking for, maybe a combo......
i hope they get something for him if he's traded..........smitty

I'm mean be real about this guys. He was picked 13th overall in the 2002 draft, and whether you like him or not or how much he's "improved" he's still been a big disappointment. I would not trade him for basically nothing, but if they get a decent deal for him like a 3rd rounder, then I'd say do it.

3rd rounder? Kind of undervaluing just a bit huh? He's still only 25 and could 70 balls last season. He was 55 yards away from his first thousand year season. This was virtually his first full season w/o any type of hamstring set backs. If he's not traded, I expect to see him easily go over the thousand yard mark. Finally he has someone to get him the ball... he'll still have his drops, but he should get to that next level soon IMO.

have to disagree papz..........yes, he is young and yes he is coming off a good yr and one more hamstring pull and what? imo, donte is a burner........catch the ball and most of the time gone.........if this rumor is true, maybe someone wants him or we are seeing if anyone is interested......in either case, he has reminded me of brooks over the yrs, dazzling at times, and totally left dumbfounded at others.......i'm all for giving him another yr and who knows, he may become a joe horn and blossom, but you have to be consistent, don't you agree?
smitty

Don't see anything wrong with what you posted. Remember how old Joe Horn was before he blossomed... Stallworth is well above that pace.

What did you disagree with though smitty? You think a 3rd rounder for Stallworth isn't undervaluing him? Would you pull the trigger on a deal for a mid round draft pick? I certainly wouldn't.

Well what could he possibly command more than that?? You have to not see him through the eyes of a Saints fan. I thought a 3rd rounder was being generous. He's an oft-injured former 1st round pick who has underachieved. Daunte Culpepper was just traded for a second rounder. Do you honestlty think we could get a second rounder for Stallworth....I say no way. My first option would be to keep him, but if they are dead set on trading him, then a 3rd is what I would realistically expect.

IMO I think Stallworth will continue to improve, I'd hate to give up on him only to see him go to another team and say I told you so. (Like a Jake D.)

I think Stallworth is going to have his best year as a pro this year. The only logic for us trading Stallworth is that we don't think we will be able to afford him next year so we might as well trade him this year and see what we can get. I'm not for trading the guy for a 3rd round pick. Keep him around for another year, see how he does and if he breaks out then we better resign him.

Seeing how this is a Saints board and I have been posting here for quite some time... hmm... let me think about that and I'll try to get back to you.

:roll:

I think we could get a 2nd rounder for him... but that's just me. I rather not see him traded at all. You think Daunte's fat 100 million dollar contract and his injury had anything to do with him being traded for a 2nd rounder? Just a thought.

He has dropped quite a few balls his first few years in the league...
:lolup:
a few is generous.
3 this year and a 4 next (for the what ifs) sounds good but straight up for a 3 is fair. Henderson is the speed and well after Joe we got no hands. trade donte for a 3 and pick Hass in the third I will be happy.

like i said, i'll be all for another yr,,,,,,,,,,,,,it gets depressing with injuries though......as far as pick, can't say........but, a solid 2nd for his last yr performance would justify it in my mind......
i'd rather pick up another horn and go from there.............smitty

Ha! So you actually agree with me! :P

did not see your other post til now, but yes, i do.....in many team's mind, he may be on the breakout and worth the chance, all i can say is dammit!, his speed is the cause of all these injuries....................dammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!smitty

Sorry I just don't think people have the capacity to be objective sometimes. Minnesota wasn't forced to trade Culpepper. The injury was the only thing that lowered his value. Edge and Alexander, both Pro Bowl RBs were shopped around a couple of years ago for second round picks. Are they worth more, sure but no one was going to give up first round picks for them. This is why I don't see how people can say that Stallworth is worth a second when he hasn't even logged a 1,000 yard season. He has the potential to be worth much more than a second but as of right now his resume' doesn't warrant it. It's wishful thinking. A third would be generous.

Bottom line is given where we drafted him, it's not worth it to trade him at all.

Stallworth may be "about to have his break out year", but he's been on that verge for two years now. I can see why they are talking about shipping him off. Getting a vet. receiver that holds on to it no matter who's throwing and a pick or two is a good thing.

Yet, I say give him this year. SD has a WR named Parker. Who's that? A good backup that had similar numbers to Stallworth and got lots of notice when he had a great #1 in front of him, and Brees slingin' it.

If stallworth can put up the numbers he did with Horn out and Brooks' half-stupid ass throwing it to every one and Wayne Gandy, I think he'll be a building block for us...finally, one for us....

I'm sorry I don't have the capacity to be objective... you make me laugh. You think when Culpepper demanded a trade that it didn't force Minnesota's hand? You seriously believe that a 100 million dollar contract had nothing to do with lowering his value? You think Edge and Alexanders contract demands didn't affect compensation either? If you don't "get it", I can't help you. A third is generous... what a joke. Why not just trade him for a 4th to be fair in your books then? How does that sound?

Now that is one thing I can agree with you on 100 percent.

Yeah one more year with a pro bowl QB....if he doesn't improve we gotta cut our losses.

One more thing....Nate Burleson, a 3 year vet, has comparable numbers to Stallworth over his first 3 years in the league, PLUS he had a 1,000 yard season in '04. He was just let go to Seattle for a late 3rd. A second rounder for Stallworth is unrealistic.

My point is they went for second rounders, for whatever reason when they are clearly Pro Bowl players. Now Stallworth has been injured for all but one year of his career....that would affect his trade value a bit too, don't you think? And he has obvious hand issues, and he's a RECIEVER. Now could you explain to me how Stallworth is worth a second rounder again? :roll:

This is the Saints. We finally get him half way on track and now we want to let him go. Was this posted for April Fool's?

Umm... he wasn't even traded. Compensation for him was determined to be a 3rd rounder... he was a restricted free agent. If Stallworth was a restricted free agent and we tendered him the right amount of money, we'd get a 3rd round pick as compensation too.

If I were Minnesota, I wouldn't have matched that 49 million dollar offer either.

Once again, if we traded away Stallworth, with the salary he's making and from last year's performance... along with his age and potential, I don't think a 2nd round pick is a reach. But hey that's just an opinion from a guy who doesn't have the capacity to be objective... so take it for what it's worth... probably nothing.

Let me ask you something GoldRush, what do you think is fair compensation for Javon Walker?

A blowpop and total hip replacement would about do it P!

Stop it Cher... you're being too generous. :P

I hope he doesn't take my bait.

guy probably had his best year last year. finally stayed healthy. stepped up and had a couple of big games. i would like to see what he can do this year. i mean the guy might be finally getting the idea. to trade him now might be to someone elses benefit. then again he did just have that problem with the law. maybe that is where this coming from

Depends on who was trading for him. Definitely not a first rounder, due to the fact he's coming back from ACL surgery. He had one great Pro Bowl season so probably a mid second because he's still young. No way he's worth a first though. What does Javon Walker have to do with Stallworth though. Two totally different situations.

And I never said Burleson was traded but obviously Minnesota, having the right to match any offer, determines what they feel he's worth by the qualifying offer. Had they made a larger offer, he would have been compensated more if Seattle still decided to top their offer. They would have made a larger qualifying offer if they felt he was worth more. He would have been traded for the same thing if he wasn't a RFA.

Nevermind I'll stop here... I'm enjoy my vodka and leave you be. Going to take the BonB approach on this one. I can go on forever and you will still not understand my point of view.

Hey P, you got the right idea as I'm doing the samething. Gettin wasted away. It's Saturday night and I'm gonna get familiar with the wifey later!

just make sure you don't go the wrong room cherm

hy gold rush on that thing with nate from what i read is there is something called a poison pill option where like seattle can offer a 49 mil contract but guarentee only like 10. but they can wqrite into the offer that if minny wants him back they have to guarentee the entire 49 mil. i don't get it exactly but it is something along those lines

Hey 25 if I go to the wrong room that would mean I would be with my best friends wife, which wouldn't be bad don't get me wrong but I know she would scream and we don't need all that.

that would be hilarious cherm. you can always pretend it was an accident.

Why is there no reference to this on ESPN.COM?

it was on kffl.com