Streaky? No I don't think so. This guy led the NFL DTs in tackles a few years ago and if it wasn't for constant double teams because of our lack of a serious threat on the inside, I'm sure he'd be able to do more. Grant is a beast and has proven that he's one of the better ends in the NFC. Grant would be a starter on every team in the NFC besides maybe the Panthers.

Because we've all seen how awful our FO is at actually getting something worthy out of players (i.e. Darren Howard situation). Besides, we need to win now, and drafting a guy who plays one of our strongest position doesn't make sense. Why draft a guy who isn't going to play every down (if he splits time with Grant), when we can get a guy who will play every down, especially at a more urgent area of need? Besides, even if he did become our full-time starter, then we'd have a Pro-Bowl talented guy just sitting on the bench. It just doesn't make sense. We NEED a DT, we NEED a LB, we NEED a CB, we NEED another OT; we DON'T NEED another DE. What we could use, however, is a backup defensive end, somebody who can provide us with good depth for not a lot of money.

Ding ding... that's exactly right WVSaint. Why not draft a guy who can not only rush the passer, but can stop the run along with dropping back in coverage... Hawk makes more sense. Mel Kiper can take his infatuation with Williams and shove it. It does not make sense. Grant had somewhat of a down year and all these analyst are ragging on him. What about all the previous years when he was outstanding for us? The guy is 27... he's coming into his prime and his not exactly killing our cap. Leave him be... he takes on a lot of double teams freeing up everyone else.

Aaron Brooks threw him the ball. :D

Sorry guys. I couldn't resist. :lol:

haha, that deserves at least a giggle from everyone.....

I'm not big on the idea of Williams either, but just in case we do (as saints fans) have to face the inevitable...here goes nothing:

I think that with his size, and the fact that his frame has room to grow, we may be looking at something far more valuable to us than the next J Peppers...maybe the next John Henderson. The Jags haven't done so bad by grabbing him, plus that's an immediate double team at the line. that will either free up the secondary since opponents have to stay in and block, or let Grant and Smith go apes*** in the backfield.

We would have to resign grant though. Someone may say he doesn't work hard, but would you if you looked over and saw Sully doing matrix-style slo-mo moves, then realizing he's moving in real-time!? Smith had the stud year he had b/c Grant was getting doubled up on and teams thought Smith was a spot-time or one year wonder.

If we have to stay pat and draft there, I still say Brick. I understand the temptation to take Williams, but I still think we have to address further holes. I know the Jets are smokescreening that they are not moving up, but come on...Pennington has more questions that Brees about his arm and Ramsey will still be in shellshock long into retirement after what Spurrier/Gibbs did to him.


BTW...I'm only playing devil's advocate. As a saint's fan I think we all develop the ability to see a bright side to anything (trading up for sully instead of taking Trufant).

Dont we still have Tony Bryant??

Over the years Grant has been the leader of the Defence, and is a non stop everydown end. He had on down year along with every other player on the team. I 'm willing to write that off based on the cercumstances.

While I think Mario is a very talented player I feel like the Saints worst draft day scenario is that we cannot trade down and we take Mario at 2. Doesn't fill a need and we don't get extra picks to fill our needs.

I do not think we have Tony Bryant anymore

i don't see the point of drafting mario. the guy could be great but i don't se how that helps us. even if yousay grant is streaky we still have two very good ends. we need a tackle and there is no reason for us to draft anohter de. makes no sense

Agreed. As I posted elsewhere, unless Mario is a player that's so special that he changes the position of defensive end (a la Lawrence Taylor at Outside LB) that we cannot afford to fill the left tackle position for the next decade.

SFIAH