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Saints-Falcons Trade Indication of Draft Intentions?
On Thursday, the New Orleans Saints traded offensive tackle Wayne Gandy to the Atlanta Falcons for safety Bryan Scott and a conditional future draft pick. On the surface, the move seems to further cement the likelihood that the Saints will select Virginia tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson in the draft later this month, trade down, or maybe both. But that might not necessarily be the case.
They could move last year's first-round draft pick, Jamaal Brown, from the right side to the left, and plug in Jon Stinchcomb on the right side. Or they could look for an offensive tackle like Auburn's Marcus McNeil with their pick in the second round. Either way, the Saints have options.

There has been some speculation that they are targeting North Carolina State defensive end Mario Williams, and there could be some truth to the rumor, but I'm skeptical. They already have talented players at both ends in Will Smith and Charles Grant. The team could just be sending out smoke signals in the hopes someone will trade up for either Williams, USC QB Matt Leinart, or Texas QB Vince Young. A trade with the Jets could mean picking up a late first-round pick and they would likely still end up with Ferguson on the board when they use the Jets' pick at No. 4.

And don't completely discount the possibility that the Saints could take Leinart at No. 2 despite having landed Drew Brees through free agency. Brees' contract includes a $12 million bonus due after the 2006 season, which means he could be looking for a new home for the 2007 season. So it all depends on how the front office views Brees. Is he a stop-gap/mentor or a long-term solution?

Either way, the Saints certainly continue to muck up the picture at the top of the draft.

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saintswhodi · 04-07-2006, 09:25 AM

hahahaha. I moderate on James' forum, AND a few of those things he got from a convo I had about the trade on the forum, like maybe Stinch playing RT. I used to write for him back in the day, but it was too time consuming, so now I just moderate. Good stuff. This is the thread:

http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum....ab-profootball

James is a good guy, a real good guy actually, and isn't one of those writers who forms his own opinions ahead of time without considering all of the factors possible, and often asks for input from the forum. The site has fans from all 32 teams, mostly, so if ya ever wanna pop in, please do so. There's only 2 regular Saints fans on there right now, me being one. This post caught me way off guard though smitty you bloodhound.

ssmitty · 04-07-2006, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

hahahaha. I moderate on James' forum, AND a few of those things he got from a convo I had about the trade on the forum, like maybe Stinch playing RT. I used to write for him back in the day, but it was too time consuming, so now I just moderate. Good stuff. This is the thread:

http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum....ab-profootball

James is a good guy, a real good guy actually, and isn't one of those writers who forms his own opinions ahead of time without considering all of the factors possible, and often asks for input from the forum. The site has fans from all 32 teams, mostly, so if ya ever wanna pop in, please do so. There's only 2 regular Saints fans on there right now, me being one. This post caught me way off guard though smitty you bloodhound.

actually i posted it because it sounded like everything members discussed when the trade took place.........are you sure he's not spying here? smitty

saintswhodi · 04-07-2006, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by ssmitty

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

hahahaha. I moderate on James' forum, AND a few of those things he got from a convo I had about the trade on the forum, like maybe Stinch playing RT. I used to write for him back in the day, but it was too time consuming, so now I just moderate. Good stuff. This is the thread:

http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum....ab-profootball

James is a good guy, a real good guy actually, and isn't one of those writers who forms his own opinions ahead of time without considering all of the factors possible, and often asks for input from the forum. The site has fans from all 32 teams, mostly, so if ya ever wanna pop in, please do so. There's only 2 regular Saints fans on there right now, me being one. This post caught me way off guard though smitty you bloodhound.

actually i posted it because it sounded like everything members discussed when the trade took place.........are you sure he's not spying here? smitty

No way, that you can count on. Like I said, some of that stuff I mentioned in the thread we had about it over there. He usually asks fans opinions, then writes an article and links it to the discussion. As you can see, he didn't define one road the Saints could take, but laid out all the options.

ssmitty · 04-07-2006, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

Originally Posted by ssmitty

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

hahahaha. I moderate on James' forum, AND a few of those things he got from a convo I had about the trade on the forum, like maybe Stinch playing RT. I used to write for him back in the day, but it was too time consuming, so now I just moderate. Good stuff. This is the thread:

http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum....ab-profootball

James is a good guy, a real good guy actually, and isn't one of those writers who forms his own opinions ahead of time without considering all of the factors possible, and often asks for input from the forum. The site has fans from all 32 teams, mostly, so if ya ever wanna pop in, please do so. There's only 2 regular Saints fans on there right now, me being one. This post caught me way off guard though smitty you bloodhound.

actually i posted it because it sounded like everything members discussed when the trade took place.........are you sure he's not spying here? smitty

No way, that you can count on. Like I said, some of that stuff I mentioned in the thread we had about it over there. He usually asks fans opinions, then writes an article and links it to the discussion. As you can see, he didn't define one road the Saints could take, but laid out all the options.

i'll take your word for it.............smitty

saintswhodi · 04-07-2006, 05:10 PM

Well, if you click the link to the thread I provided, you'll see what I am saying.

ssmitty · 04-07-2006, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

Well, if you click the link to the thread I provided, you'll see what I am saying.

boy, when you can't recognize sarcasm......................

been there, it is nice.............................
actually, i've never seen the saints play it like this........
i'd say they're giving payton the reins and loomis is in the background looking good.......
i don't doubt for a second that payton is looking to build his offense, but deep down he knows that the defense is the key, and there he is gonna have to rely on who he hired to come through. it was the opposite with haslett here...
i will say this, few people give loomis the credit behind the scene. but he is a dam good negotiator once they know who they are going after and who they want to unload....
if he stays there, we very well could have a respectable team.............smitty

AllSaints · 04-07-2006, 06:40 PM

john clayton says we still are getting Mario Williams............ mhmmmhmhmh

ssmitty · 04-07-2006, 07:29 PM

oh, and if loomis screws up the draft, i never said that.............smitty

jergensl · 04-07-2006, 08:04 PM

looking at our depth chart and our FA moves, it appears that the new coaching staff has already put together their LB core. i think we should still draft hawk, but i think they will draft brick.

04-07-2006, 08:36 AM	#1
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04-07-2006, 04:28 PM	#3
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	Originally Posted by saintswhodi hahahaha. I moderate on James' forum, AND a few of those things he got from a convo I had about the trade on the forum, like maybe Stinch playing RT. I used to write for him back in the day, but it was too time consuming, so now I just moderate. Good stuff. This is the thread: http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum....ab-profootball James is a good guy, a real good guy actually, and isn't one of those writers who forms his own opinions ahead of time without considering all of the factors possible, and often asks for input from the forum. The site has fans from all 32 teams, mostly, so if ya ever wanna pop in, please do so. There's only 2 regular Saints fans on there right now, me being one. This post caught me way off guard though smitty you bloodhound. actually i posted it because it sounded like everything members discussed when the trade took place.........are you sure he's not spying here? smitty
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04-07-2006, 04:32 PM	#4
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by ssmitty Originally Posted by saintswhodi hahahaha. I moderate on James' forum, AND a few of those things he got from a convo I had about the trade on the forum, like maybe Stinch playing RT. I used to write for him back in the day, but it was too time consuming, so now I just moderate. Good stuff. This is the thread: http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum....ab-profootball James is a good guy, a real good guy actually, and isn't one of those writers who forms his own opinions ahead of time without considering all of the factors possible, and often asks for input from the forum. The site has fans from all 32 teams, mostly, so if ya ever wanna pop in, please do so. There's only 2 regular Saints fans on there right now, me being one. This post caught me way off guard though smitty you bloodhound. actually i posted it because it sounded like everything members discussed when the trade took place.........are you sure he's not spying here? smitty No way, that you can count on. Like I said, some of that stuff I mentioned in the thread we had about it over there. He usually asks fans opinions, then writes an article and links it to the discussion. As you can see, he didn't define one road the Saints could take, but laid out all the options.

04-07-2006, 04:35 PM	#5
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	Originally Posted by saintswhodi Originally Posted by ssmitty Originally Posted by saintswhodi hahahaha. I moderate on James' forum, AND a few of those things he got from a convo I had about the trade on the forum, like maybe Stinch playing RT. I used to write for him back in the day, but it was too time consuming, so now I just moderate. Good stuff. This is the thread: http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum....ab-profootball James is a good guy, a real good guy actually, and isn't one of those writers who forms his own opinions ahead of time without considering all of the factors possible, and often asks for input from the forum. The site has fans from all 32 teams, mostly, so if ya ever wanna pop in, please do so. There's only 2 regular Saints fans on there right now, me being one. This post caught me way off guard though smitty you bloodhound. actually i posted it because it sounded like everything members discussed when the trade took place.........are you sure he's not spying here? smitty No way, that you can count on. Like I said, some of that stuff I mentioned in the thread we had about it over there. He usually asks fans opinions, then writes an article and links it to the discussion. As you can see, he didn't define one road the Saints could take, but laid out all the options. i'll take your word for it.............smitty
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879

04-07-2006, 06:32 PM	#7
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	Originally Posted by saintswhodi Well, if you click the link to the thread I provided, you'll see what I am saying. boy, when you can't recognize sarcasm...................... been there, it is nice............................. actually, i've never seen the saints play it like this........ i'd say they're giving payton the reins and loomis is in the background looking good....... i don't doubt for a second that payton is looking to build his offense, but deep down he knows that the defense is the key, and there he is gonna have to rely on who he hired to come through. it was the opposite with haslett here... i will say this, few people give loomis the credit behind the scene. but he is a dam good negotiator once they know who they are going after and who they want to unload.... if he stays there, we very well could have a respectable team.............smitty
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04-07-2006, 09:25 AM	#2
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	hahahaha. I moderate on James' forum, AND a few of those things he got from a convo I had about the trade on the forum, like maybe Stinch playing RT. I used to write for him back in the day, but it was too time consuming, so now I just moderate. Good stuff. This is the thread: http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum....ab-profootball James is a good guy, a real good guy actually, and isn't one of those writers who forms his own opinions ahead of time without considering all of the factors possible, and often asks for input from the forum. The site has fans from all 32 teams, mostly, so if ya ever wanna pop in, please do so. There's only 2 regular Saints fans on there right now, me being one. This post caught me way off guard though smitty you bloodhound.

04-07-2006, 05:10 PM	#6
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Well, if you click the link to the thread I provided, you'll see what I am saying.

04-07-2006, 06:40 PM	#8
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ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	oh, and if loomis screws up the draft, i never said that.............smitty
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04-07-2006, 08:04 PM	#10
jergensl 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belleview, FL Posts: 526	looking at our depth chart and our FA moves, it appears that the new coaching staff has already put together their LB core. i think we should still draft hawk, but i think they will draft brick.