Saints Mock Draft and Good Rationale for it!
 

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Saints Trade to Jets get #4 and #29
Saints get Vernon Davis Tight End at #4( Check out this link http://qisports.com/nfldraft.html for a bio on all of the top players everyone has been raving about including Leinart, Williams, Hawk compare and see who is truly the best playmakerand game changer. Oh, Hawk got creamed by Vince Young :P )
#29 Cromartie (If available) Mangold or Deuce Latui in descending order
#34 Rodrique Wright (If anyone remembers Kevin Williams when he was drafted he had the same type of review, besides we all know that players can definitely gain weight in Nawlins)
If someone really wants Mario Williams we might be able to squeeze a three and still get Davis at 5. I was with a lot of you all who want Williams or Hawk or Ngata but after seeing the film I think that Davis would fit our new tight end featuring offense a whole lot better. I have not a seen a tight end this athletic since..... since.... since...... Well I haven't ever seen one.

RE: Saints Mock Draft and Good Rationale for it!
 

We have way too many needs to use a top 5 pick on a TE, i dont care how good he is. Would he help our offense? Hell yea he would, but can he block a rushing Julius Peppers on the outside? Can he run down and tackle Vick? Is he going to be able to cover Steve Smith from Carolina? nope......he would help, but I dont kare how good a player is, I'm not gunna take him to overall just cuz hes special. So if there was a bad ass kicker out of West Texas A&M, who was 95% from 45yds in, would u take him at #2?????? Over a beast of a LB or a mammoth of a tackle???? i dont think so

I know a tight end the same size as this tight end (Daniel Graham) that put Peppers on Roller skates. Davis might not be able to hold Steve smith (there are no top five corners this year anyway) but he can become as hard to cover as Steve Smith. He might not be the one to chase down Mike Vick but he can become the one as hard to catch and cover as Mike Vick.
I don't even know why you would bring a kicker in this debate.
Urlarcher was a phenomenal natural athlete who is still wreaking havoc. Zach Thomas the fifth round wonder is still wreaking havoc. Good players can be found anywhere in the draft. Phenoms like Davis and I will say Super Mario cannot be found all the time. If you read my entire post I am giving you a link to follow. If you go to the link it says one of the weaknesses of Hawk is ability to change directions. Do you think Michael Vick runs straight in the open field. Sedrick Hodge could run. Mark Fields could run. This draft is deep with linebackers that can run. This draft is deep with defensive ends that can run. This draft has a only a few "mammoth" Defensive Tackles true enough but they will suffer the curse of New Orleans (gaining too much weight ala Grady Jackson, Norman Hand) Now how many tight ends are there running legitimate 4.38's with a 40 inch vertical, 465 lb bench press and 650 lb squats are there. Go look at the highlights and let me know what you think

This is where I stopped reading. I thought it was going to be a mock draft with "good rationale" but this is just ridiculous.

Man worst mock i ever started too read Vernon Davis???? TE>>??? no no no no no no try again....... then i will read it........

if we got the 29th we better get Mangold.

I see how the Patriots, Dallas, San Fran and the Steelers and in some cases the Broncos got to be dynasties. Yeah they all had stellar quarterbacks (some they got from the first round and some they got in later rounds ala Brad) but they know how to pick talent instead of a name. The linebackers from Pittsburgh were pretty much know namers until they got to Pittsburgh. ( They are all able to run, run, run and hit). Dallas always seemed to find monster D and O-line because they knew how to scout talent not name. San Fran got a certain receiver with talent that most people looked over(Jerry Rice. They did though get talent no matter what the position. Yeah a tight end at 4 is a high spot but for his ability that will translate to the pro level you get what you pay for. I hope we can get him lower but he will probably be gone. Talent, Desire, Attitude, Work Ethic, Athleticism, Leadership is mainly what I am saying but to all you naysayers I have the same desire that all of you have. I hope that the Saints find players that will turn them into a consistent playoff contender and someday superbowl champion.

Sure, Vernon Davis is supposed to be a good player, but he doesn't play a position of need at all. We have a rising star in Hilton. Why would we take another TE when we have holes at DT, LB, OL, and CB??? Saying we should draft Davis is just ridiculous. Sure he's talented, but we don't need him.

It's easy to say we should draft on talent alone, but who says AJ Hawk or Brick aren't more talented than Davis? Sure Davis can bench press the world, but when was the last time you saw a bench press machine on a football field?

I think we need to go OLINE AND DLINE... to build this team... You build the line and D up then you can get a bigtime QB and he will be better than slice bread. You get a great QB and a horrible line you get diddly pooh.

sick... just sick....

TE/WR/HB/FB I so Love this guy. I think he is #2 on the impact list to me. He will be great and you can do so much with him in an offense it is sick. He is a Marshal Faulk in a TE body. If he could play TB and R man he would be right next to Bush.
But the Needs list is to great at 4. swap #4 with SFat 6 and a 2or a 3, then pick him. U got a deal.
I would ? the move but I would have no Doubts the type of player we are getting. not like mario

i agree he is a great player but our needs list is way to large to be choosing a TE with our top pick...

But there is no point in taking a TE....

we would never take davis at 4, even tho he will be better the antoino gates, way better, but we have more pressing needs

your kidding me davis...we already have 5, count them 5 TE's on the roster...that is 2 or 3 too many if you ask, me i'd rather have a couple or one extra good CB with that money or a rotating fast LB that can run down a scrambling qb...We have Hilton and Conwell they are good enough to say thats all we need and Mier for a insurance policy on Conwell...Cleeland's replacemt in every sense of the word...

Trading down to Oakland at #7 is still too high to take a TE. It's a luxury position given the other holes this team needs to address to seriously compete.

If like I said end up with say SF or Oaklands pick I am all for it. That means we traded down twice and got a additional picks in the 1,2,3, and 4. Sure we miss out on talent but the additional picks would go far. Additional trades for picks involving players like the TEs would be fun to watch. Then we would see how good the FO and payton really are.

Hey all you loyal Saints' fans,
I like this board because there is usually plenty of good reading (whether or not I agree with it) to be found. A lot of people did not read my entire post but if you can hold your vomit try to. I addressed all of the glaring needs at Cornerback, D- Tackle and Field Stretching Tight End. I know that you all want the big names, but I want the players who can make plays regardless of what their name or position is. Yes we have glaring hole but with a good combination of team players we can really make some noise in the upcoming football year. Yes we have five tight ends but how many can stretch the middle of the field better than Shockey, Gonzales, and even Gates. We all know Brees and Payton love tight ends (no pun intended) so I'll even take a gamer like Dave Thomas (One of my favorites) just as long is the middle of the field is stretched.
You can have the Hawks, Williams and Fergusons (who are not bad choices whatsoever) but I would rather get VD!!!! Definitely no pun intended.
Hollar at you later fellow Saints' Fans.
19 Days and counting.

OK, so the beatdown on Davis at TE seems fairly unanimous, but who, then is our best value get at #4? Actually, we ain't traded yet, so #2? Williams has a great deal of juice at that pick, but a good (maybe not better, but good) case can be made for Ferguson. I don't see Hawk as of value at that point though, like many other folks out there.

I still see us trading down to #4, and yes, Davis is a REACH at that point. No TE should ever be drafted in the top 10 unless your name is....check that, none should.