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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Round 4, Pick 5 MONTRAE HOLLAND MEASURABLES Height: 6-1 Weight: 333 40-yard dash: 5.15 10-yard dash: ÂÂÂÂ* 20-yard shuttle: 5.00 60-yard shuttle: Broad jump: 7-6 225 lb. bench: 30 3-cone drill: 8.45 Vertical jump: 28 Wonderlic: 19 20-yard dash: Player ...

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Old 04-27-2003, 04:55 PM   #1
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Drat Evaluations on day 2 picks




Round 4, Pick 5


MONTRAE HOLLAND MEASURABLES
Height: 6-1 Weight: 333
40-yard dash: 5.15 10-yard dash: ÂÂÂÂ*
20-yard shuttle: 5.00 60-yard shuttle:
Broad jump: 7-6 225 lb. bench: 30
3-cone drill: 8.45 Vertical jump: 28
Wonderlic: 19 20-yard dash:
Player evaluation:
Montrae Holland

War Room analysis
Run blocking: Is a squatty mauler with great bulk and power. Can be overpowering at the point of attack. Pushes the pile and drives legs well to finish. Has good body strength. Is aggressive and plays with a mean streak. Lacks great athleticism and struggles in open field at times, but is good in the short area. Grade: 8.2

Pass blocking: Lacks height, which limits him to playing guard. Not an elite athlete, but shows good footwork in the short area. Has a quick set. Shows good lateral movement and can mirror and slide. Doesn't get overpowered by bull rushes. Wins almost every battle once locked on. Grade: 7.3

Initial quickness: Isn't great in this area and struggles against some top one-gap defensive tackles. Shows good leverage coming out of stance. Has good quickness in pass protection and almost always gets into position as a short-area run blocker. Grade: 6.5

Strength: Is a wide body with great mauling skills. Plays with a wide base and good leverage. Has excellent lower-body bulk and power. Can knock defensive tackles back with initial punch. Grade: 8.0

Mobility: Had left knee scoped twice in 1999, ankle surgery in '00 and right knee scoped in '01, posing durability concerns. Moves well for size, but isn't great in open field and struggles to consistently hit moving targets. Moves well laterally and excels in the short area. Grade: 6.1

Bottom line: Holland raised his value by steadily adding strength and quickness as a three-year starter in college. He projects as a second-round prospect; it would be surprising if he stays on the board beyond Day 1.
Dan Pompei analysis
Is a powerful, explosive and nasty run blocker. Also is solid in pass protection. Consistently wins battles, and can make defenders crumble. Plays with balance and toughness, and moves well for a big man. Had a good senior season, and raised his stock during Senior Bowl workouts. Has a wide body, but lacks ideal height. Has some trouble with quick defensive tackles.
Pompei's OG ranking: No. 2




Round 5, Pick 20


MELVIN WILLIAMS MEASURABLES
Height: 6-2 Weight: 269
40-yard dash: 4.75 10-yard dash: ÂÂÂÂ*
20-yard shuttle: 60-yard shuttle:
Broad jump: 0-0 225 lb. bench:
3-cone drill: Vertical jump: 0
Wonderlic: 15 20-yard dash:
Player evaluation:
Melvin Williams

War Room analysis
Strengths: Has a good combination of size and speed. Is most comfortable as a pass rusher. Has a strong upper body. Uses club and swim moves to get back inside. Shows good initial quickness. Has adequate speed for an edge rusher. Occasionally turns the corner. Closes well. Is in on many big plays.

Weaknesses: Struggles to consistently stop the run. Lacks great lower-body strength. Has trouble holding ground when opponents run at him. Tends to play too high and loses power. Shows poor run/pass recognition. Has trouble shedding blocks and finding the ball. Gets out of plays by getting too far upfield. Character and maturity are concerns.

Bottom line: Williams has interesting upside -- he doesn’t have much more room to grow and will never be an every-down NFL end, but he has enough big-play flair as an edge rusher to consider drafting in one of the final two rounds.
Dan Pompei analysis
Has some decent pass-rush skills -- a good first step, quickness and a nice array of moves. Never stops hustling, especially against the run. Lacks ideal size.
Pompei's DE ranking: No. 30



Round 6, Pick 30



KAREEM KELLY MEASURABLES
Height: 5-11 Weight: 186
40-yard dash: 4.40 10-yard dash: 1.55 ÂÂÂÂ*
20-yard shuttle: 4.14 60-yard shuttle: 11.67
Broad jump: 10-5 225 lb. bench:
3-cone drill: 7.49 Vertical jump: 35
Wonderlic: 15 20-yard dash: 2.56
Player evaluation:
Kareem Kelly

War Room analysis
Strengths: Is speedy. Has great experience. Has shown flashes of being a go-to receiver. Makes spectacular catches at times. Shows great burst and quickness off the line. Excels at finding soft spots in zones. Can catch the ball on the run. Is a threat after the catch. Is elusive and flashes a second gear in the open field.

Weaknesses: Biggest concern is inconsistency. Drops too many catchable balls. Has trouble catching the ball when he must leave his feet. Loses focus at times and tries to get upfield before he secures the ball. Is undersized. Gives a marginal effort as a blocker.

Bottom line: Kelly is talented with some big-time potential, but his inconsistency is why his grade doesn't reflect his natural tools. He could still emerge as a first-day prospect and has the skills to develop into an NFL starter, but he is a risk because of his lack of size and questionable work ethic.
Dan Pompei analysis
Is one of the fastest receivers in the '03 class. Can make big plays after the catch. Runs fluid routes. Shows inconsistent hands. Is thin, and gets pushed around near the line.
Pompei's WR ranking: No. 28



Round 7, Pick 17



TALMAN GARDNER MEASURABLES
Height: 6-0 Weight: 205
40-yard dash: 4.43 10-yard dash: 1.56 ÂÂÂÂ*
20-yard shuttle: 4.41 60-yard shuttle: 11.61
Broad jump: 9-8 225 lb. bench:
3-cone drill: 7.53 Vertical jump: 34
Wonderlic: 29 20-yard dash: 2.58
Player evaluation:
Talman Gardner

War Room analysis
Strengths: Has good size. Has deceptive speed because he gets to top speed quickly. Shows great burst off the line. Breaks the press well. Has great body control. Gets open downfield. Has some big-play ability. Tracks down the ball well. Is a good leaper. Challenges for jump balls. Can catch over his shoulder and away from his frame. Can be acrobatic. Is explosive after the catch because of his footwork, body control and initial quickness.

Weaknesses: Lacks the blazing top-end speed and elite size of a vertical receiver. Route-running skills and hands are inconsistent. Drops very catchable balls at times. Doesn't show good instincts in zone coverage. Tends to disappear in games. Gives an inconsistent effort as a blocker.

Bottom line: Gardner offers good size, great initial quickness and much big-play flair. He is worth a third-round pick because he has the tools to develop into a solid No. 2 receiver with some vertical upside. He still needs to run better routes and show better hands, however, and even then, he may not develop the necessary consistency.
Dan Pompei analysis
Has the legs to get open and the hands to secure the ball. Makes some tough catches, but drops some easy ones. Is somewhat of a track guy. Gets in and out of cuts well. Shows the body control to adjust to passes.
Pompei's WR ranking: No. 11


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Old 04-27-2003, 06:39 PM   #2
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you can throw the ratings out the window.......you\'re either nfl caliber or you\'re not..........what you do in the nfl and what you did in college or as a walk on are 2 different things. proven time and time again....let\'s see who\'s who come play time. smitty
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