What's the feeling on Andrew Whitworth?

gandhi1007 · 04-21-2006, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by JimBone

The combine is so overrated. I will take my chances with the player who has done it on the field instead of the "workout warrior" who bench presses 700 pounds and high jumps 50 inches. Give me the football player. Not the freak.

This is true, but the Senior Bowl is a game. He got beat alot by the better defensive linemen in that game. I like Whitworth, but that game (& the Georgia game) really opened my eyes to the fact that he doesn't always have success against good defensive linemen. That is why I said a third round pick, but not a second.

saintswhodi · 04-21-2006, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo

One more note on this player. If he didn't play for the team in baton rogue, no one would have posted this thread and we wouldn't hear a word about him this draft season. He's just not that special.

I fail to see the relevance in that. I would think if anything, us "LSU homers" would know what the guy brings to the table better than any other football players in the country, outside the top guys. Who should we talk about, the starting left tackle for Oregon State whom none of us has probably ever seen play? The fact that he went to LSU is totally irrlevant to the fact someone is willing to spend a late second or a 3rd round pick on the guy.

JimBone · 04-21-2006, 01:45 PM

Thank you...I say i trust him coming to the saints because i feel as though i have seen him play enough to be comfortable with him. I am not clamoring for us to trade down and take Claude Wroten. I would love to have Marcus McNeill in the third round and i cant stand Auburn. But the fact that he played at Auburn means people like me who live in the south get to watch them weekly and therefore, its safer for me to make an assessment of him as a player. Thank you and God Bless.

gandhi1007 · 04-21-2006, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by JimBone

I would love to have Marcus McNeill in the third round and i cant stand Auburn.

Marcus McNeil might not make it to the second round, much less the third. Good pick at OT, though. I've got us snagging him at #29 if we're lucky in my mock draft.

#4-(From Jets) A.J. Hawk
#29-(From Jets) Marcus McNeil
#34-Nick Mangold
#71-(From Jets) Babatunde Oshinowo
#99-Will Blackmon
#117-(From Jets) Marques Colston
#135-Jon Alston
#171-Jerome Harrison

Wishful thinking, huh?

saintswhodi · 04-21-2006, 04:38 PM

Little something on Whitworth from NFL.com:

9. Andrew Whitworth, LSU (6-7; 5.18)
He had a complete workout at the Combine. He clocked 5.16 and 5.20 in the 40, 4.83 in the short shuttle, and 7.47 in the three-cone drill. He had a 30ÃƒÂ‚Ã‚Â½-inch vertical jump, a 9-foot-4 broad jump and did 38 lifts. His arm length measures 35 inches (left-handed). Plays offensive line and also plays basketball at a high level; golf and tennis, too. He redshirted in 2001 and then started the next 52 games at left tackle (a school record). He's a great character person. He has long arms and big hands (10 1/8 inches). Very good worker both on and off the field. Good competitor and is athletic, but not sure he is quick enough to play left tackle in the NFL. His best position is most likely at right tackle. He'll play a long time for a team

Talks about other linemen in the draft too:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/analysis/expert/brandt/ol

wheelman · 04-21-2006, 05:12 PM

According to Mel Kiper's mock draft from two weeks ago, he is considered to be a late second round pick. Kiper had him going at #59 to Tampa.

He had McNeill going #49 to Dallas.

gandhi1007 · 04-21-2006, 05:21 PM

Here's a link to the rankings of offensive tackles in this year's draft along with the rounds they are projected to go in. These are more recent (updated daily).

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/rankings/ot.html

papz · 04-21-2006, 05:24 PM

Umm... I was under the impression his stock is rising, not falling.

gandhi1007 · 04-21-2006, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Umm... I was under the impression his stock is rising, not falling.

It is. He went from being the 9th ranked OT 2 weeks ago to the 8th ranked OT now. He's still projected as a late second rounder to 3rd rounder. That's why I said I wouldn't use our second rounder to get him considering that pick is #34 overall. If we pick up a 3rd rounder from someone though, it would be a solid pick for us.

jrmllb · 04-23-2006, 02:39 PM

Yeah I think he could start at RT...Did Niswanger not comeout this year???

04-21-2006, 01:17 PM	#12
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo One more note on this player. If he didn't play for the team in baton rogue, no one would have posted this thread and we wouldn't hear a word about him this draft season. He's just not that special. I fail to see the relevance in that. I would think if anything, us "LSU homers" would know what the guy brings to the table better than any other football players in the country, outside the top guys. Who should we talk about, the starting left tackle for Oregon State whom none of us has probably ever seen play? The fact that he went to LSU is totally irrlevant to the fact someone is willing to spend a late second or a 3rd round pick on the guy.

04-21-2006, 02:17 PM	#14
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by JimBone I would love to have Marcus McNeill in the third round and i cant stand Auburn. Marcus McNeil might not make it to the second round, much less the third. Good pick at OT, though. I've got us snagging him at #29 if we're lucky in my mock draft. #4-(From Jets) A.J. Hawk #29-(From Jets) Marcus McNeil #34-Nick Mangold #71-(From Jets) Babatunde Oshinowo #99-Will Blackmon #117-(From Jets) Marques Colston #135-Jon Alston #171-Jerome Harrison Wishful thinking, huh?

04-21-2006, 05:12 PM	#16
wheelman Sammich Lover Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 682	According to Mel Kiper's mock draft from two weeks ago, he is considered to be a late second round pick. Kiper had him going at #59 to Tampa. He had McNeill going #49 to Dallas.
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04-21-2006, 06:20 PM	#19
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by papz Umm... I was under the impression his stock is rising, not falling. It is. He went from being the 9th ranked OT 2 weeks ago to the 8th ranked OT now. He's still projected as a late second rounder to 3rd rounder. That's why I said I wouldn't use our second rounder to get him considering that pick is #34 overall. If we pick up a 3rd rounder from someone though, it would be a solid pick for us.

04-21-2006, 12:51 PM	#11
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by JimBone The combine is so overrated. I will take my chances with the player who has done it on the field instead of the "workout warrior" who bench presses 700 pounds and high jumps 50 inches. Give me the football player. Not the freak. This is true, but the Senior Bowl is a game. He got beat alot by the better defensive linemen in that game. I like Whitworth, but that game (& the Georgia game) really opened my eyes to the fact that he doesn't always have success against good defensive linemen. That is why I said a third round pick, but not a second.

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04-21-2006, 01:45 PM	#13
JimBone 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Thibodaux, La Posts: 614	Thank you...I say i trust him coming to the saints because i feel as though i have seen him play enough to be comfortable with him. I am not clamoring for us to trade down and take Claude Wroten. I would love to have Marcus McNeill in the third round and i cant stand Auburn. But the fact that he played at Auburn means people like me who live in the south get to watch them weekly and therefore, its safer for me to make an assessment of him as a player. Thank you and God Bless.

04-21-2006, 04:38 PM	#15
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Little something on Whitworth from NFL.com: 9. Andrew Whitworth, LSU (6-7; 5.18) He had a complete workout at the Combine. He clocked 5.16 and 5.20 in the 40, 4.83 in the short shuttle, and 7.47 in the three-cone drill. He had a 30ÃƒÂ‚Ã‚Â½-inch vertical jump, a 9-foot-4 broad jump and did 38 lifts. His arm length measures 35 inches (left-handed). Plays offensive line and also plays basketball at a high level; golf and tennis, too. He redshirted in 2001 and then started the next 52 games at left tackle (a school record). He's a great character person. He has long arms and big hands (10 1/8 inches). Very good worker both on and off the field. Good competitor and is athletic, but not sure he is quick enough to play left tackle in the NFL. His best position is most likely at right tackle. He'll play a long time for a team Talks about other linemen in the draft too: http://www.nfl.com/draft/analysis/expert/brandt/ol

04-21-2006, 05:21 PM	#17
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Here's a link to the rankings of offensive tackles in this year's draft along with the rounds they are projected to go in. These are more recent (updated daily). http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/rankings/ot.html

04-21-2006, 05:24 PM	#18
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,737	Umm... I was under the impression his stock is rising, not falling.

04-23-2006, 02:39 PM	#20
jrmllb 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Posts: 665	Yeah I think he could start at RT...Did Niswanger not comeout this year???