Will you be upset...
 

if the Saints don't pick, the players you want them to pick? I do not know about the players enough to have a choice, I just believe in the team to get the players they think will help them win. So, I won't be upset no matter who they pick. But, I notice that many of you believe they should pick certain players, and I was just curious to know, if you will be extremely unhappy if they don't pick the player you like? I am still rooting for the team, even though I am a Aaron Brooks fan. Will you all still root for them, if they do not choose any player you wanted?

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This is one of the deepest drafts in recent memory. I will be happy with the first pick as long as they don't draft a lineman, linebacker or wide receiver. Or a safety, or a cornerback or a tight end. and especially a kicker. I hate kickers.

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:shock: :shock: :shock: It's not your fault. Really, it's not your fault. :?

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So, if we draft either a quarterback, running back, or punter, you'll be happy? j/k buddy

It's okay to have a preference, but I think most everyone knows there are several players who could help this team. Personally, I pray we get Hawk. But there are several guys I would be very happy to have in a Saints uni. My main no nos are Vince Young, Mario Williams, and Jay Cutler. I would lose it if we chose one of those guys.

Whodi I'll agree on Williams, but prefer the other two over you boy at QB. But regardless I still think the position needs to be adressed.

As long as the picks are not wasted away, ie traded away for injured players or prospects, I'll be happy

you know what is the best news i heard the other day, i think it was on espn radio, they said culpepper may not be ready to play this season and maybe not in the season at all. everyone talking about our boy. i am a brees fan and i hope he can come back from this beacuse i think we have a very good qb if he can.

1) give thanks on All Saints day to make the season easier to digest.
2) I still have that old saints jersey from 1967 # 31 and plastic helmet bought at MB downtown by my dad
3) we traded our 1st #1 pick overall to the Baltimore colts for hmm i forgot...they got Bubba Smith and we got Alabama FB Leslie Kelley with our first pick.
That says it all. No matter what the FO has done I have never missed a kick off from John Gilliam's 94 yarder to today. We live and die with the black and gold.
Oh buy the way I have an original brown bag up for sale now. Taking bids on EBay.

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Enjoy being a Raider fan and rooting for the backup QB, then.

The biggest picks have already been made, i.e., the coaching staff, so whoever they pick is not going to make me unhappy. I'd prefer it is Hawk or Brick they pick, but...

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Hmmm...

I'm not sure that they've taken a guy in the first round that I really wanted them to take in many years. Draft selections are not the sort of thing that I get too upset about. Poor on-field performance for a whole season (or several seasons)... that on the other hand ticks me off.

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I think this draft everyone will be happy as long as the needs are at least addressed.

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The history of the organization is full of examples of drafting/trading for players that I don't like and don't think we can win with. I'm still with them though.

They could bring Heath Shuler in as QB coach and I'd still be with them. Might not be real happy about it though.

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dammit, I'm tired of watching the team draft linemen in the top ten of the 1st round.

OK, I've got a beef. D'Brick, while a fine human being and a large and athletic specimen, played on a pretty less than average team in a fairly weak conference. His team didn't beat anyone of note during his tenure. While he may have been the best tackle on the team, he didn't consistently face the best pass rusher or run stuffer due to this assessment. His teams beat up on inferior competition and struggled mightily against teams with balanced playing ability on the D-line, allowing at least 2 major sacks per game. While D'B may not have graded against these sacks per se, he certainly wasn't tested against the likes of a Julius Peppers for 4 quarters over 16 games. An average tackle in the SEC endured more hardships than this guy.

So how do we knock Williams, who's got a relatively similar profile, without knocking D'Brick? At least with Brown, he played in a serious conference and post season with better and deeper opposition, and he was a 13th selection. If I am missing something here, I'm hoping that you all will chime in and set me straight.

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i think i will be happy with pretty much anyone.... there is alot of talented players at the top of this draft and anyone of them would help our team out greatly, whether it be our greatest need or not...

You raise a good point xan. Here's why I take D'Brick over Mario though, consistency. D'Brick would have been the top tackle last year had he come out, he was the top tackle in the country this year, and two years ago as a sophomore he was rated as a high T. williams did it all THIS PAST YEAR. That's it. And what he did wasn't that impressive. He just came out of nowhere, like a Kyle Boller or akili smith, where a good senior season pushes a player to the top of the draft, no matter how inconsistent or unimpressive he was before that. Brick could have come out in any of the last 3 drafts and been the top tackle. No matter who he has played against, he has consistently rated out high the last 3 years. Mario on the other hand, one year wonder, workout warrior.

I won't even get into why i'd take Hawk over Mario. Hawk is my number one guy, and Mario is not even close in my book.

Thanks for the distinction on D'Brick vs Williams, whodi. Yet D'Brick grades out as the top lineman because he stands out on a carpy team. Why challenge him when you can go after 4 other weak links? in the only game they won against a putatively superior team (FSU, who wasn't all that last year) their qb was, and I watched that game, running for his genetic life. If FSU could have just gotten their hands on him as he was scrambling around, he was going to get pummelled. No linemen were saving him from the onslaught, including D'Brick.

There aren't going to be the kind of 3rd rate DE's to face in the NFL, and particularly in the NFC South. 8 games against all world talent. D'Brick's not faced anything like that for a quarter much less a whole game. I fear that folks have fallen in love with his dimensions as opposed to his accomplishments.

So, I guess that if not taking a skill position with the number 1, I'm with you on Hawk. It will be a blown opportunity otherwise.

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While I would hate to see the Saints draft yet another O-lineman with our 1st rounder (I want Hawk), I cannot agree with your assessment of D'Brickashaw Ferguson. He did in fact face five of the top 20 rated defensive ends in this year's draft & handled them with ease. Here's some of the DE's he's faced this year alone: Mathias Kiwanuka-Boston College (who Brick treated like his personal biyatch in the Senior Bowl), Kamerion Wimbley-Florida State, Darryl Tapp-Virginia Tech, Ryan LaCasse-Syracuse, & Eric Henderson-Georgia Tech.

"Super Mario" on the other hand, has not impressed me as much. He has not faced great O-lineman & he has help w/ N.C. States other DE who just so happens to run in the 4.4's. Before this year, this guy was unknown. After a great workout, all of a sudden he's the next Julias Peppers. Uhmm...Peppers put up those numbers every year against some very good OT's.

Ghandi did more research than I did. And raised very good points on who D'Brick HAS played. One thing you know for SURE about Mario as well, if it's a big game, he won't have an impact. Period. And neither will he be such a significant disruption that the rest of his team on defense will overpower you. Like ghandi said, they had Manny Lawson at the other DE, and he runs a 4.4. And is a decent player. If Mario was getting all this attention, shouldn't Lawson ahve been all world? How many guys can you double team?

Also, check out ANY highlights on Mario. ANY. They will ALL be against scrub teams. He has NOTHING impressive in any big game. That guy isn't gonna be as good as he seems, and I feel very strongly about that.

You know whodi, i agree with you on your outlook on Williams. He didnt do much against the good competition and he did take plays off and he did disappear at times. But he is going to be a solid-great player in the NFL. There is no way he can be a unanimous choice for number 1 defensive player in the draft, possible best player in the draft, and all of his comparisons from the "Professionals that do this for a living" are to Bruce Smith, Reggie White, and Julius Peppers. Now i dont want him but at the same time, i think he will be a very good ball player.

These same "pros" graded Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Tony Mandarich, Bosworth, Courtney Brown, Dan Wilkinson, etc. as the best in their drafts too. They are nowhere near infallible. When I speak about williams, I am mainly speaking of "bust potential." I think he has the most of any of the top picks in the draft. I also didn't say he may not be good, I said he won't be as good as he seems. he can still be good, but right now some people will have you believing he is some kinda defensive god. I don't see that at all.

I think most draft analysists are on the Agents payroll, or at the least in reciept of some sort of compinsation, so I take what they say with a grain of salt.

I pulling for them to take Marcus Vick with their first round pick.

I'll take anyone that will make us better. There are many ways we can go at this and still come out doing the right thing. The only thing that would make me upset is drafting Vince Young... that's a no no. Pick a name out of a hat at any position and we need help there... just make sure it's rigged w/o Vince's name in it. Someone in there head right now is probably thinking... what if I pull out a guard's name out of hat? You know what I mean geez.