Giants ink Arrington
 

ESPN's John Clayton is reporting that the Giants and LB Lavar Arrington have agreed in principle to a 7yr. $49 deal.

This signing will alter the Giants draft plan as most had the them drafting a LB with their first round selection.

RE: Giants ink Arrington
 

I want to see how much he got upfront.

Most liely more than he deserved. THe guy has really fallen off.

Huh??? :? That's like saying T.O. has fallen off because he didn't get along with his coaching staff & didn't play all of last season. Big mouth...yes, but talent wise, he brings it every Sunday. Same thing with Arrington. :roll: Arrington's presence was felt in every game he ever played in.

Well, he did play off the bench last season.

Like I said before...T.O. didn't start for the Eagles last season. Would you say that was because the Eagles had better receivers on the team? Hell no. LaVar was not on the bench because Washington's other LB's were better. Believe that! The guy bought out his own contract just to get off the team. :roll:

He actually forced his way back into the starting lineup after starting it in Gibbs doghouse. People might not like his attitude, but he's still a very good linebacker.

2000 Washington Redskins 16 55 44.0 11 4 0 0 0.0 0 0 4
2001 Washington Redskins 14 99 82.0 17 0.5 3 120 40.0 67 1 6
2002 Washington Redskins 16 92 67.0 25 11 0 0 0.0 0 0 8
2003 Washington Redskins 16 88 75.0 13 6 0 0 0.0 0 0 10
2004 Washington Redskins 4 15 11.0 4 1 0 0 0.0 0 0 2
2005 Washington Redskins 13 47 39.0 8 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1
TOTAL 79 396 318.0 78 22.5 3 120 40.0 67 1 31


Personally I think it was too much to pay for a guy whos numbers have steadily decined over the past 3 seasons.

Washington is in for a nightmare twice a year. well at least he will show up for those games.

Look beyond what you read in the stat columns on NFL.com. If you simply look at stats, Aaron Brooks was a great QB. I can show you statistical years where he is better than QB's such as Brett Favre, Troy Aikman, John Elway, & Steve Young, but we all know how good Brooks was now don't we. He couldn't hold any of the aforementioned QB's jock straps! :roll: But, let's break down those "declining" last 3 seasons of Arrington's you spoke of:

2005- Arrington was kept out of the starting lineup because of personal differences w/ his coaches most of the season. :?

2004-Arrington was injured most of the season. How many full games did he play that year? 3 right? And then he got hurt in his 4th game? :roll:

2003-Didn't he start in the Pro Bowl that year? :?

Now saying that he's expensive is one thing, but demeaning the man's playing ability by saying he's on the decline is another.

well worth the money they paid...

Comin' from a guy that thinks he can compete with A.J. Hawk for an ILB position, I'll take it that you think Arrington is one hell of a LB. :wink:

2005- Arrington was kept out of the starting lineup because of personal differences w/ his coaches most of the season
He started 10 games and had 47 tackles and 0 sacks. He wasnt kept out of the starting lineup for most of the season.

I've seen him play enough. Great athlete, no question, but unlike the great ones, he doesn't put himself in the position to make plays. If he makes a big play, is because he was on the spot by chance, not by instinct.

He's good, but not Urlacher good or Lewis good or Brooks good.

Again... Here you go with stats you found on NFL.com. Okay, He's shown as having ten starts. How many of those games did he get his minutes? The guy did not start getting quality playing time until mid-November. Here's a stat for you: Shawne Merriman (who was a Pro Bowl starter) had only 57 tackles in 15 games. And, Merriman didn't have to fight his coach to get in the game every week. I'm done. :roll:

You are right, Arrington is extremely talented. But what i am saying is that i wouldnt shell out $7 million a year for a guy who has injury problems and a history of issues with his coaches. Now, in 2002, i would have given Arrington anything he wanted to come play with us. IT just seems to me as though he hasnt been the same. But i am not questioning his ability.

First off JB, let me say that was a good post. You made your point without trying to downplay a guy that has had nothing less than a stellar career so far. I believe that with the defensive line the G-Men have, Arrington will again shine. $7 million a year is a lot of money, true, but if he plays to his capability in New York people will be saying Lawrence Taylor all over again. And then... the same people bashing the man will be saying: "Damn, why didn't we go after that dude when we had the chance." :wink:

Didn't the Giants also take Pierce from the Redskins last year in FA? Who's next, Sean Taylor? lol

Even with his off the field issues, I wouldn't mind seeing him in Black & Gold either. :wink:

Oh, no doubt. But the Giants are raiding their defensive players, maybe it's just LBs though.

What I'd like to know is with all the cap problems NFL teams are facing, where the hell are the Giants coming up with the money to sign all those superstars? :?

We sholda raided their LB'ers!!!!! Haha

we signed brees to a much more expensive deal... he is injured...

I'm just glad that he signed with a team so that some people on this board that had delusions of grandeur can get any idea out of their head that we should try to sign him.

As far as the Saints signing Brees while he's injured, at least we know that he's a team player. LaVar, on the other hand, is questionable in that aspect.

Taking a chance on a QB makes more sense than taking a chance on a LB for that kind of money. I am going to go out on a limb and say this...Drew Brees at 100% is better for this team than Lavar Arrington at 100%. Playmaking LB's are easier to come by than All-Pro QB's.

I haven't seen the numbers yet, but I'mpretty sure Arrington'd deal is kinda like the ones the Redskins deal out. In 3 years, he'll be onthe market again.

Now, I'm not a big fan of LaVar. I actually think he's a bit overblown as a LB (glad to see I'm not the onlyone), but I also think Ghandi is right. When you put LaVar in a scheme where he finally has the upfront protection, his nubers have a better chance of going up...way up...

Washington keeps writing checks like they have their ownpaper mill, but they never adaquately address the most key part of a Defense...the D-line. It's been why our back seven get scellacked every year, and why LaVar is always fishing through garbage to get to the ball carrier.

Over-priced, but for the Giants, a good pick up.