Jerry Angelo "You can't go wrong,"

hagan714 · 04-24-2006, 09:14 AM

Jerry Angelo
Of Williams, Angelo says: "The guy's a freak. What makes him so exceptional is his size. Where have you seen a guy with his size? You might see an athlete like this at 260-265. (When the Dolphins') Jason Taylor came out, he was 240. This guy is 295."

Angelo said he doesn't know who he might take if he had his pick of the litter, citing Bush, Young, Hawk, Davis, Texas safety Michael Huff, Virginia offensive tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Williams all as special.

"You can't go wrong," Angelo said. "That A.J. Hawk does some special things. You look at Bush in terms of his playmaking ability. I always covet defensive linemen, so I probably always will go with the defensive linemen first. You can't go wrong with them, although there is no such thing as a no-brainer coming into the league as a pass rusher. It's easier to project what Bush is going to be, what Hawk is going to be, what Huff is going to be than it is with Mario Williams even though Mario Williams has some exceptional traits for the position."

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunhera...l/14412629.htm
"You can't go wrong,"
So the safe projections: Bush, Hawk, Huff
as special: Young, Davis, Ferguson, Williams

Stick with Hawk!

saintswhodi · 04-24-2006, 09:25 AM

It's easier to project what Bush is going to be, what Hawk is going to be, what Huff is going to be than it is with Mario Williams even though Mario Williams has some exceptional traits for the position."

More and more people are catching on. HUGE bust potential with this guy.

pakowitz · 04-24-2006, 12:44 PM

fuel for whodis fire....

But here's the punch line in Houston: The Texans have worked so hard to talk themselves out of Young that they're now talking themselves into North Carolina State defensive end Mario Williams. Huh?

No doubt this could be a negotiating ploy. The Texans didn't have a visit scheduled with Williams until after their first sit-down with Bush's agent, Joel Segal, who obviously expressed some jaw-dropping contractual wishes. Still, the Texans aren't the only team falling head-over-better-judgment in love with the 6-foot-7, 295-pound Williams.

Baaa! go the NFL sheep. If one team expresses awe over a player, others begin to see greatness that simply isn't there.

In all my years following NFL drafts, I cannot remember a player rising so far so fast so late. Several sources say the Texans' fascination with Williams goes beyond merely threatening to take him if Segal won't ease off his demands. The Texans are genuinely considering him.

Mario Williams doesn't belong in the same paragraph with Vince Young.

The best thing Williams has going for him is that Julius Peppers played down Tobacco Road at North Carolina, and Williams and Peppers have one thing in common. They're both basketball tall. That's about it.

Otherwise, Williams doesn't belong in the same zip code with Peppers. When I watched Peppers in college, he jumped off my screen. When I watched Williams' 7-5 NC State team, he didn't once catch my eye.

An independent NFL scout who was assigned to three NC State games told me: "If they hadn't told me to watch Williams, I wouldn't have noticed him."

link:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...bayless/060421

TheDeuce · 04-24-2006, 01:15 PM

Good post pak.

An independent NFL scout who was assigned to three NC State games told me: "If they hadn't told me to watch Williams, I wouldn't have noticed him."

This is exactly what I've been talking about with this guy. I said in another post that all of his sacks were against crappy teams. The only real impressive thing he's done in my eyes is have good workouts. Is he ahtletic? Hell yes. Is he as good as everybody is saying he is? Hell no. Where was all of this hype about him during the season?

D_it_up · 04-24-2006, 07:08 PM

I read that article today, Pak. That is about the only thing I agree with Skip Bayless on in the entire thing. I'm definitely not defending Mario Williams here, but this is also coming from the same man that said in the first part of the interview that Vince Young is "Jordan-esque".

BiggPoppaFro4 · 04-24-2006, 09:32 PM

Let them drink the kool-aid. Houston picks Williams and our number of offers for #2 quadruples in amount and size. I know it's a long shot, and about as likely to happen as Bonds becoming a great guy, but if it did...I think everyone one of us will let out a collective "Holy S***" at the same time and be heard by the world

Savant · 04-25-2006, 06:58 PM

Is it possible that someone might pull a Mike Ditka and trade there whole draft? Not likely. That would be extremely stupid. No one is worth that much.

BiggPoppaFro4 · 04-25-2006, 07:00 PM

Savant, that's likely the same thing some poor writer at the Times-Picayune said on the Friday before the draft back in 2000

Savant · 04-25-2006, 07:04 PM

I know. Only in New Orleans.

04-24-2006, 09:14 AM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Jerry Angelo "You can't go wrong," Jerry Angelo Of Williams, Angelo says: "The guy's a freak. What makes him so exceptional is his size. Where have you seen a guy with his size? You might see an athlete like this at 260-265. (When the Dolphins') Jason Taylor came out, he was 240. This guy is 295." Angelo said he doesn't know who he might take if he had his pick of the litter, citing Bush, Young, Hawk, Davis, Texas safety Michael Huff, Virginia offensive tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Williams all as special. "You can't go wrong," Angelo said. "That A.J. Hawk does some special things. You look at Bush in terms of his playmaking ability. I always covet defensive linemen, so I probably always will go with the defensive linemen first. You can't go wrong with them, although there is no such thing as a no-brainer coming into the league as a pass rusher. It's easier to project what Bush is going to be, what Hawk is going to be, what Huff is going to be than it is with Mario Williams even though Mario Williams has some exceptional traits for the position." http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunhera...l/14412629.htm "You can't go wrong," So the safe projections: Bush, Hawk, Huff as special: Young, Davis, Ferguson, Williams Stick with Hawk!
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04-24-2006, 12:44 PM	#3
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	fuel for whodis fire.... But here's the punch line in Houston: The Texans have worked so hard to talk themselves out of Young that they're now talking themselves into North Carolina State defensive end Mario Williams. Huh? No doubt this could be a negotiating ploy. The Texans didn't have a visit scheduled with Williams until after their first sit-down with Bush's agent, Joel Segal, who obviously expressed some jaw-dropping contractual wishes. Still, the Texans aren't the only team falling head-over-better-judgment in love with the 6-foot-7, 295-pound Williams. Baaa! go the NFL sheep. If one team expresses awe over a player, others begin to see greatness that simply isn't there. In all my years following NFL drafts, I cannot remember a player rising so far so fast so late. Several sources say the Texans' fascination with Williams goes beyond merely threatening to take him if Segal won't ease off his demands. The Texans are genuinely considering him. Mario Williams doesn't belong in the same paragraph with Vince Young. The best thing Williams has going for him is that Julius Peppers played down Tobacco Road at North Carolina, and Williams and Peppers have one thing in common. They're both basketball tall. That's about it. Otherwise, Williams doesn't belong in the same zip code with Peppers. When I watched Peppers in college, he jumped off my screen. When I watched Williams' 7-5 NC State team, he didn't once catch my eye. An independent NFL scout who was assigned to three NC State games told me: "If they hadn't told me to watch Williams, I wouldn't have noticed him." link: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...bayless/060421

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TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Good post pak. An independent NFL scout who was assigned to three NC State games told me: "If they hadn't told me to watch Williams, I wouldn't have noticed him." This is exactly what I've been talking about with this guy. I said in another post that all of his sacks were against crappy teams. The only real impressive thing he's done in my eyes is have good workouts. Is he ahtletic? Hell yes. Is he as good as everybody is saying he is? Hell no. Where was all of this hype about him during the season?
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BiggPoppaFro4 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 231	Let them drink the kool-aid. Houston picks Williams and our number of offers for #2 quadruples in amount and size. I know it's a long shot, and about as likely to happen as Bonds becoming a great guy, but if it did...I think everyone one of us will let out a collective "Holy S***" at the same time and be heard by the world
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Savant 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 275	Is it possible that someone might pull a Mike Ditka and trade there whole draft? Not likely. That would be extremely stupid. No one is worth that much.
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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	It's easier to project what Bush is going to be, what Hawk is going to be, what Huff is going to be than it is with Mario Williams even though Mario Williams has some exceptional traits for the position." More and more people are catching on. HUGE bust potential with this guy.

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D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	I read that article today, Pak. That is about the only thing I agree with Skip Bayless on in the entire thing. I'm definitely not defending Mario Williams here, but this is also coming from the same man that said in the first part of the interview that Vince Young is "Jordan-esque".

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BiggPoppaFro4 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 231	Savant, that's likely the same thing some poor writer at the Times-Picayune said on the Friday before the draft back in 2000
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Savant 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 275	I know. Only in New Orleans.
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