Very good news

TheDeuce · 04-24-2006, 09:42 PM

Sorry if this has been posted, but it made me happy to see, especially with all of the talk that we won't be able to trade:

Saints listening to offers
<Apr. 24> The Saints, who are expected to draft DE Mario Williams with the second pick if they stand pat, have fielded their first couple of calls for trades, according to ESPN.com's John Clayton. The Saints haven't made calls yet to shop the pick. The teams that have called haven't offered anything exciting, but it's early in the week.

PLEASE TRADE DOWN FO!!!!! WE NEED THE HAWK!

xan · 04-25-2006, 12:52 AM

not gonna happen. there's too many quality players for teams picking early to forego picks just to satisfy some neanderthal need to trade themselves into another losing season. They're gonna make the Saints self immolate before they hose themselves - it's in our history, and we do seem to be a repetitively stupid franchise.

TheDeuce · 04-25-2006, 01:01 AM

Yes we have made some bad picks in years past, but there might be a team like the Raiders or 49ers who feel that trading up might be able to land them a player that is worth it. What if Bush isn't drafted first? Then some team might want to trade up. I know you enjoy being pessimistic, but I'm just glad to see that we've received calls about trades considering that analysts were talking about nobody wanting to trade with us.

xan · 04-25-2006, 01:25 AM

I don't enjoy being pessimistic, I just enjoy being pleasantly surprised instead of overly and unjustifably optimistic. Until there's demonstrable progress, I'm not going to say there's been such. I'm of the opinion that there are dozens of quality running backs and DE's out there, but not that many qbs and lbs. Qbs and Lbs are positions that make or break teams, and our Saints haven't had both on the same team ever. This year we may get that chance to sneak out of the doghouse if we don't rely on some fictitious idiotic team "bailing" us out. The Jets nor the Titans nor the Raiders are going to play ball until we've made our pick at #2. We need to take ownership of what we have and build on the core positions. Draft Lienart and wait to see what happens, even if Bush is available. The worst we'll have is insurance against Brees' not playing, which is a strong possibility. The best is for a team who really wants him to have to deal upfront and quickly. Otherwise we'll overpay for whomever else we draft and start the cycle all over again.

Savant · 04-25-2006, 05:26 AM

[quote]Qbs and Lbs are positions that make or break teams, and our Saints haven't had both on the same team ever.

LB's are QB's of the defense.

FanNJ · 04-25-2006, 08:21 AM

An injured Drew Brees has a stronger are than Leinart. Leinart is not the answer

FatiusJeebs · 04-25-2006, 08:29 AM

Today is a red-letter day folks....The Deuce and I FINALLY see eye to eye on an issue..lolol. I've been saying it for a while now. Trade down.....get HAWK!!!!!!!

spkb25 · 04-25-2006, 08:34 AM

xan your offensive and defensive line is what makes teams

saintswhodi · 04-25-2006, 09:18 AM

I posted this already in the thread entitled, aptly enough, "Saints starting to get calls." :P

ScottyRo · 04-25-2006, 09:26 AM

I'm glad to hear they're getting calls too. The way I see this is that the Saints have so many holes they can trade down and still fill a need with a gifted player. I just hope they don't get stubborn on the compensation like they did with trying to trade Howard last year. Getting something even if it's just a low 2nd for dropping to 4th or 5th is better than staying pat and getting a player that wont help the team anymore than the player we could have gotten at 5 - especially if it's the same player.

04-24-2006, 09:42 PM	#1
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Very good news Sorry if this has been posted, but it made me happy to see, especially with all of the talk that we won't be able to trade: Saints listening to offers <Apr. 24> The Saints, who are expected to draft DE Mario Williams with the second pick if they stand pat, have fielded their first couple of calls for trades, according to ESPN.com's John Clayton. The Saints haven't made calls yet to shop the pick. The teams that have called haven't offered anything exciting, but it's early in the week. PLEASE TRADE DOWN FO!!!!! WE NEED THE HAWK!
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04-25-2006, 01:01 AM	#3
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	RE: Very good news Yes we have made some bad picks in years past, but there might be a team like the Raiders or 49ers who feel that trading up might be able to land them a player that is worth it. What if Bush isn't drafted first? Then some team might want to trade up. I know you enjoy being pessimistic, but I'm just glad to see that we've received calls about trades considering that analysts were talking about nobody wanting to trade with us.
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04-25-2006, 01:25 AM	#4
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,368 Blog Entries: 34	RE: Very good news I don't enjoy being pessimistic, I just enjoy being pleasantly surprised instead of overly and unjustifably optimistic. Until there's demonstrable progress, I'm not going to say there's been such. I'm of the opinion that there are dozens of quality running backs and DE's out there, but not that many qbs and lbs. Qbs and Lbs are positions that make or break teams, and our Saints haven't had both on the same team ever. This year we may get that chance to sneak out of the doghouse if we don't rely on some fictitious idiotic team "bailing" us out. The Jets nor the Titans nor the Raiders are going to play ball until we've made our pick at #2. We need to take ownership of what we have and build on the core positions. Draft Lienart and wait to see what happens, even if Bush is available. The worst we'll have is insurance against Brees' not playing, which is a strong possibility. The best is for a team who really wants him to have to deal upfront and quickly. Otherwise we'll overpay for whomever else we draft and start the cycle all over again.
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04-25-2006, 05:26 AM	#5
Savant 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 275	RE: Very good news [quote]Qbs and Lbs are positions that make or break teams, and our Saints haven't had both on the same team ever. LB's are QB's of the defense.
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04-25-2006, 08:21 AM	#6
FanNJ 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 324	RE: Very good news An injured Drew Brees has a stronger are than Leinart. Leinart is not the answer
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xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,368 Blog Entries: 34	RE: Very good news not gonna happen. there's too many quality players for teams picking early to forego picks just to satisfy some neanderthal need to trade themselves into another losing season. They're gonna make the Saints self immolate before they hose themselves - it's in our history, and we do seem to be a repetitively stupid franchise.

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FatiusJeebs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 973	RE: Very good news Today is a red-letter day folks....The Deuce and I FINALLY see eye to eye on an issue..lolol. I've been saying it for a while now. Trade down.....get HAWK!!!!!!!
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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,093	RE: Very good news xan your offensive and defensive line is what makes teams

04-25-2006, 09:18 AM	#9
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I posted this already in the thread entitled, aptly enough, "Saints starting to get calls." :P

04-25-2006, 09:26 AM	#10
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	I'm glad to hear they're getting calls too. The way I see this is that the Saints have so many holes they can trade down and still fill a need with a gifted player. I just hope they don't get stubborn on the compensation like they did with trying to trade Howard last year. Getting something even if it's just a low 2nd for dropping to 4th or 5th is better than staying pat and getting a player that wont help the team anymore than the player we could have gotten at 5 - especially if it's the same player.