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LKelley67 04-26-2006 11:46 AM

Sleeper Picks
 
Who's on your wishlist?

I wouldn't mind QB Ingle Martin in the 6th or 7th, he's on a lot of sleepr lists tho.

Gerald Riggs would be a great 2nd day guy. If he could stay healthy he might get close to his vast potential.

Not just cuz he is a homie but Skyler Green. Probably have to be the 3rd tho, kinda pricey. He was never used effectively enough at LSU. Great kick returner too.

Rod Wright of Texas has as much talent as any DT but could slip to Day Two for his lack of drive. IF you could light his fire he could be a surprise. Yew, reminds me of another chicken eating slob as I type that.

Not too sleepy is CB DeMario Winter. With a good field of DBs to choose from he might get pushed back some.

A project- Drouzon Quillen out of LSU-Monroe, 6-6, 215lb, 4.55 WR

stylee10 04-26-2006 11:51 AM

RE: Sleeper Picks
 
Skyler
Jeremy Bloom

I've never heard of Quillen, sounds like a real athlete. What was his production like?

gandhi1007 04-26-2006 12:00 PM

RE: Sleeper Picks
 
Marques Colston-WR Hofstra & Brandon Marshall-WR Central Florida

LKelley67 04-26-2006 12:12 PM

a NO boy too. He is leaving school cuz he has a wife and two kids to support.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player...layerId=136251

wheelman 04-26-2006 02:24 PM

Drew Olson. He's going to be good. Mark my words.

TheDeuce 04-26-2006 02:29 PM

Will Blackmon
Chris Barclay (ACC Player of the Year, unbelievable quickness)
Kyle Williams, not really a sleeper, but not getting a lot of pub.
If Thomas Howard slips a whole lot, I'd like to have his athleticism

zachsaints52 04-26-2006 02:39 PM

Will Montgomery OG/C from VT. Why is noone talking about him? He ran a 5.08 40 and repped 35 times at 225, Top 5 in 40 and Top in bench. He also has started games at both C and OG, but noone talks about him. I am pretty sure noone injuries either. I would love to have him. AND Jeff King as back-up TE.

TheDeuce 04-26-2006 02:48 PM

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Strengths: Possesses good initial quickness, rarely takes false steps and is an efficient drive blocker. Stays balanced and generally does a good job of sustaining blocks once in position. Shows adequate range, has adequate athletic ability and can get around the corner when asked to pull. Takes good angles to assignments, stays under control and has enough lateral mobility to adjust to the moving target at the second level. Keeps head up, shows good awareness and does a good job of picking up the blitz as well as line stunts. Shows good footwork and can redirect inside after starting outside. Has experience playing guard as well as center and is versatile.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal lower body strength, isn't big enough to overwhelm most defensive tackles at the point of attack and will have some problems pushing the pile in short-yardage situations. While almost always gets the job done, doesn't deliver a violent initial punch and rarely dominates the point of attack. Gets adequate knee bend in pass set but has problems anchoring working against powerful bull rushers and will get pushed back into the pocket at times.

Overall: Montgomery moved from defensive tackle to offensive guard before the start of his freshman season in 2001 and Virginia Tech red-shirted him that year. He appeared in four games during the 2002 season and he started 10 of the 13 games he played in during the 2003 season. Montgomery started 13 games at center during the 2004 season and he was named first-team All-ACC after moving back to guard for the 2005 season. Montgomery isn't dominant in any one area but he is an efficient run blocker when given an angle or allowed to work in space, and he also can generally hold his own in pass protection. He may never develop into a solid fulltime starter in the NFL but he has the experience, toughness and mobility to warrant late-round attention in the 2006 class as a potential versatile interior reserve.
He sounds pretty solid. But I don't know, it says he's listed at 6'3" 310, and they say he's not big enough to swallow DTs???? That's huge for a center!

BrooksMustGo 04-26-2006 02:52 PM

Will Blackmon--he'd end up starting before his rookie year was over.
Chris Chester--G/C--Oklahoma--not sure that he lasts into day 2, but I like bringing him in. If we miss Mangold, he's my second choice.
Eric Bassey--CB/S--Oklahoma--lot's of upside and may not even be drafted, well worth a 7th.
Drouzon Quillen--WR--La Monroe--super tall corner of the end zone jump ball guy. Good hands against Arkansas this year, nightmare for corners to match up against.
Brad Smith--WR--Missouri--I like the idea of him being our Randle-El. Just adds a dimension to the offense if we could count on him to catch the ball as a WR.

These guys I don't know much about, but strike me as nice camp bodies if nothing else.
Richie Ross--WR--Neb Kerney--super tall WR, good hands, might go undrafted
Kwakou Robinson--DT--Virginia--late rounder, could turn into a NT.
Gerald Anderson--DT--Georgia--possible NT and what would a Saints draft be without an obligatory player from Georgia or Ohio State?
Anthony Montgomery--DT--Minnesota--possible NT

gandhi1007 04-26-2006 03:18 PM

Dusty Dvoracek

VikingSaint 04-26-2006 04:47 PM

Qb Brett Elliott of Linfield (Div. III) is a player I like in the late rounds ...

papz 04-26-2006 04:54 PM

I love PJ Daniels... wouldn't mind seeing him here.

LKelley67 04-26-2006 10:20 PM

those are some good names to remember. more?

check out
Kevin Boothe, OT, Cornell
and one that was a sleeper but has come out of nowhere so strongly he probably no longer is
David Pittman, CB, Northwestern State (LA)

Crusader 04-27-2006 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDeuce
Quote:

Strengths: Possesses good initial quickness, rarely takes false steps and is an efficient drive blocker. Stays balanced and generally does a good job of sustaining blocks once in position. Shows adequate range, has adequate athletic ability and can get around the corner when asked to pull. Takes good angles to assignments, stays under control and has enough lateral mobility to adjust to the moving target at the second level. Keeps head up, shows good awareness and does a good job of picking up the blitz as well as line stunts. Shows good footwork and can redirect inside after starting outside. Has experience playing guard as well as center and is versatile.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal lower body strength, isn't big enough to overwhelm most defensive tackles at the point of attack and will have some problems pushing the pile in short-yardage situations. While almost always gets the job done, doesn't deliver a violent initial punch and rarely dominates the point of attack. Gets adequate knee bend in pass set but has problems anchoring working against powerful bull rushers and will get pushed back into the pocket at times.

Overall: Montgomery moved from defensive tackle to offensive guard before the start of his freshman season in 2001 and Virginia Tech red-shirted him that year. He appeared in four games during the 2002 season and he started 10 of the 13 games he played in during the 2003 season. Montgomery started 13 games at center during the 2004 season and he was named first-team All-ACC after moving back to guard for the 2005 season. Montgomery isn't dominant in any one area but he is an efficient run blocker when given an angle or allowed to work in space, and he also can generally hold his own in pass protection. He may never develop into a solid fulltime starter in the NFL but he has the experience, toughness and mobility to warrant late-round attention in the 2006 class as a potential versatile interior reserve.
He sounds pretty solid. But I don't know, it says he's listed at 6'3" 310, and they say he's not big enough to swallow DTs???? That's huge for a center!

The size is all right but i guess that "Lacks ideal lower body strength" is the main issue here. Maybe a good guy for depth?

D-buck47 04-27-2006 03:10 AM

Mania Brown DT BYU
Charles Gordon CB Kansas
Derek Hagan WR Arizona State

D-buck47 04-27-2006 03:14 AM

Actually 2 more guys who I belive are going to be big value picks on staurday
Deangelo Williams and Haloti Ngata

AllSaints 04-27-2006 06:50 AM

Geshhhh I hope CB Antonio Cromartie falls 2 the 2nd round would take that guy in a heart beat....

Boogro 04-27-2006 08:44 AM

I am going to go with Devin Hester, a tweener athlete that just came out too early. CB, WR, KR, PR..the guy can move

LKelley67 04-27-2006 09:46 AM

sleepers not value LOL

hagan714 04-27-2006 12:27 PM

okay late round / fA surprises
QB Jeff Mroz ~ Yale -- Big, strong armed quarterback 6' 5",230
RB Nick Hartigan ~ Brown -- 6' 2', 220
WR/ST Ethan Kilmer ~ Penn State -- 6-0¼, 204 4.35
WR Domenik Hixon ~ Akron -- 6‘ 2“, 200 4.36
OG Willie Colon ~ Hofstra -- 6' 3" 315
OC Chris McNeil ~ Mississippi State -- 6‘ 3“ 305 5.00
OT Ryan Gibbons ~ Northeastern -- 6‘5“ 318 5.09 short shuttle in 4.59
DT Manase Hopoi ~ Washington--At 6'4" 286 5.09 and 4.97 short shuttle in 4.31
LB Brandon Guillory ~ Louisiana Monroe -- 6’ 4" 254 4.45
MLB LB Jimmy Cottrell ~ New Mexico State -- 6’ 1� 244
DB Nick Turnbull ~ Florida International -- 6' 2", 215
DB Kevin Rex ~ Cornell -- 6' 2" 215
SS/ST Trevis Coley ~ Southern Mississippi -- 6’1", 225 4.46
CB/KR Tarrence Rhodes ~ Missouri Valley College (NAIA) -- 6-0 5/8, 189 4.4
Up here on the east coast i got to watch way to many Ivy games

chRxis 04-27-2006 12:32 PM

devin hester would be decent, but i like will blackmon from boston college.... we need help at the CB position and he was pretty good there... we need some help on the lines (both offensive and defensive), so i say take the BPA at those positions in the 4-7 round... would love to see us sign the kicker from memphis... watched this guy in the collegiate skills competition and he was pretty good... i am in favor of marginal guys from big name programs as opposed to big name guys from marginal programs... they seem to be maxed out potential wise by the time they get to the league, where as the underachievers (rod wright especially) seem to really get it going... look at tom brady for an example...

LKelley67 04-27-2006 01:00 PM

good list hagan. this thread should be revisited next week.

hagan714 04-27-2006 10:54 PM

thanks. alot of good players to be had after 1,2,3. I always liked day 2 better

JimBone 04-27-2006 11:41 PM

I think in the right system, Cameron Vaughn could be a solid sleeper...not being a homer, just a guy i am familiar with...he reminds me of James Allen with a better head for the game.

SapperSaint 04-28-2006 08:12 AM

Skyler Green (WR) LSU if he is still avail. He should be a no brainer pick.
Trevis Coley (S) Southern Miss
John Eubanks (CB) Southern Miss

stylee10 04-28-2006 10:00 AM

Onomo Ojo -WR

BrooksMustGo 04-28-2006 12:12 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...en.gems/1.html
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Steve Fifita, NT, Utah: Fifita had high grades coming into the 2005 season but disappointed scouts during his senior campaign. Still, the explosive fireplug is a resilient prospect who'll find a job at the next level. With more teams using a 3-4 alignment, Fifita's quickness and intensity on the nose will come in handy.
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Dion Byrum, CB, Ohio: If I asked you to name the All-America cornerback who picked off six passes last season, broke up a dozen more throws and had three defensive touchdowns, it's unlikely you'd say Byrum, but that's the correct answer. A shut-down corner, he could see plenty of action as a rookie in nickel packages, and he'll eventually be a starter.

chRxis 04-28-2006 03:04 PM

cameron vaughn would be a horrible pick up... he wasn't that good of a player at LSU... while he does make his share of tackles, he misses his share as well... combine that with the fact that he makes untimely mistakes, costly penalties (personal foul calls abound), and is a liability in coverage (he's god awful slow), and you've got one big headache....

chRxis 04-28-2006 03:06 PM

i reallly don't see us going after skyler green either.... i wish we would but we have our receiving corps already, keeping 6 of the 11 or so that we have on the roster right now... simply a numbers game... i would love to see him in black and gold, but i really don't think that's going to happen

BrooksMustGo 04-28-2006 03:11 PM

Drouzon Quillen--WR--La Monroe--I've already mentioned him earlier, but I looked at Mike D's guide and am even more excited about picking him up on the 2nd day. Physical guy with great hands and body control. I'd love this guy in round 6.

duece4pres 04-28-2006 04:06 PM

jerieus norwood.( might have spelled wrong) Running back from Mississippi state

chRxis 04-28-2006 04:12 PM

why another running back? deuce, bennett, and stecker not enough? of all the positions we need help at, runnning back? that's like drafting another wide out.... unnecessary


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