this says to me good pick. at least we didn't reach

TheDeuce · 04-29-2006, 08:47 PM

True, I like the fact that this guy is really smart and seems to be a leader. He apparently has great intangibles. However, I just don't know what led us to pass up on Youboty or Hodge or all these other guys on the board that had first and second round grades.

wheelman · 04-29-2006, 08:52 PM

Youbouty, Hodge, and Wroten fell to the third. Every other team saw the same thing as the Saints FO.

TheDeuce · 04-29-2006, 08:55 PM

Wroten I understand, he has a drug problem. I'm not sure about the others. Youboty was a potential first-rounder.

I'm also kind of worried about Reggie being happy in New Orleans.

Bush didn't get away, even though I'd heard earlier in the day that Bush had his agent, Joel Segal, tell the Saints that Bush didn't want to play for them and wanted to be a Jet.

That was from an article by ESPN columnist Michael Smith. I wonder what he HONESTLY feels about it. Payton can say whatever he wants about Reggie being happy about being a Saint, but I wonder what he really feels. If he's not happy, I think that will make him want more money.

BrooksMustGo · 04-30-2006, 12:52 AM

Well if Reggie feels bad about what he's making, he ought to call his good buddy Matt Leinart. I bet Leinart would love to have gotten a call from New Orleans.

BiggPoppaFro4 · 04-30-2006, 01:05 AM

lol BMG.

The Harper pick baffles me, but they get paid to evaluate, I get paid to...what do I do anyway?

I can feel better about getting behind the bush pick because our FO didn't two the two things we could have easily done: 1) take a deal that hoses us and makes the other team look good, 2) reach for someone else when the obvious choice, talent-wise, was sitting in our laps. Bush wasn't my first choice, but at number 2, with him there and no good deals...good job.

hagan714 · 04-30-2006, 01:34 AM

well payton got the second safety he was after. Smith to CB? Bullock slides over?

JimBone · 04-30-2006, 01:39 AM

I am not going to rush to judge this draft just yet...Payton seems to be very high on Harper and he referred to both he and Bush as "their type of player". So you can just see him trying to put his stamp on this team. Which means you can cross off anyone on your draft board with a history of off field issues or work ethic questions...and that is something i can live with.

BiggPoppaFro4 · 04-30-2006, 01:48 AM

Good point, JB. Nice to see that in Payton after our last regime

Tobias-Reiper · 04-30-2006, 02:22 AM

For years everyone (including myself) has been *****ing and moaning about the Saints choosing physical talent over football skills. Here's this kid Harper, that most everyone, when referring to him, uses words like "intelligent" and "hard hitter", and having "football skills".

Make up your minds.

JimBone · 04-30-2006, 04:02 AM

I like the idea of having that kind of players on the team...but just not so much at that position...how about an intelligent leader at perhaps...DT...or LB...or CB...or OT...

04-29-2006, 08:47 PM	#11
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	True, I like the fact that this guy is really smart and seems to be a leader. He apparently has great intangibles. However, I just don't know what led us to pass up on Youboty or Hodge or all these other guys on the board that had first and second round grades.
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04-29-2006, 08:52 PM	#12
wheelman Sammich Lover Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 682	Youbouty, Hodge, and Wroten fell to the third. Every other team saw the same thing as the Saints FO.
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04-29-2006, 08:55 PM	#13
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Wroten I understand, he has a drug problem. I'm not sure about the others. Youboty was a potential first-rounder. I'm also kind of worried about Reggie being happy in New Orleans. Bush didn't get away, even though I'd heard earlier in the day that Bush had his agent, Joel Segal, tell the Saints that Bush didn't want to play for them and wanted to be a Jet. That was from an article by ESPN columnist Michael Smith. I wonder what he HONESTLY feels about it. Payton can say whatever he wants about Reggie being happy about being a Saint, but I wonder what he really feels. If he's not happy, I think that will make him want more money.
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04-30-2006, 01:05 AM	#15
BiggPoppaFro4 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 231	lol BMG. The Harper pick baffles me, but they get paid to evaluate, I get paid to...what do I do anyway? I can feel better about getting behind the bush pick because our FO didn't two the two things we could have easily done: 1) take a deal that hoses us and makes the other team look good, 2) reach for someone else when the obvious choice, talent-wise, was sitting in our laps. Bush wasn't my first choice, but at number 2, with him there and no good deals...good job.
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BiggPoppaFro4 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 231	Good point, JB. Nice to see that in Payton after our last regime
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BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Well if Reggie feels bad about what he's making, he ought to call his good buddy Matt Leinart. I bet Leinart would love to have gotten a call from New Orleans.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	well payton got the second safety he was after. Smith to CB? Bullock slides over?

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JimBone 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Thibodaux, La Posts: 614	I am not going to rush to judge this draft just yet...Payton seems to be very high on Harper and he referred to both he and Bush as "their type of player". So you can just see him trying to put his stamp on this team. Which means you can cross off anyone on your draft board with a history of off field issues or work ethic questions...and that is something i can live with.

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Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	For years everyone (including myself) has been *****ing and moaning about the Saints choosing physical talent over football skills. Here's this kid Harper, that most everyone, when referring to him, uses words like "intelligent" and "hard hitter", and having "football skills". Make up your minds.

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JimBone 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Thibodaux, La Posts: 614	I like the idea of having that kind of players on the team...but just not so much at that position...how about an intelligent leader at perhaps...DT...or LB...or CB...or OT...