maybe just crazy talk.......sapp?
 

there are still rumors that sapp might get traded, he is heading into the last year of his deal and it looks like the bucs aren't going to sign him to a new deal before the season starts, sapp is quoted as saying if he is a free agent after this year he is going to look elsewhere, couple that with the bucs cap problem and sapp's cap number and ?

people here are saying we need another DT, what do you guys think about getting sapp?

[Edited on 29/4/2003 by rusta]

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I\'d be a fool to say I wouldn\'t want Warren Sapp in a Saints\' uniform. The odds of that happening? It could be better than we think. If Sapp isn\'t resigned by the Bucs, then he may feel a bit of unloyalty coming from the team. He may want to go to a team in the NFC South so he can beat up on his old team twice a year. That\'d be enough of a revenge factor for me. So he could end up being a Falcon, Panther, or a Saint after this season. As long as we manage our cap right, we may be in decent position to snag him up. This is all hypothetical, but it could happen. I wouldn\'t trade anything for him, unless it was Grady Jackson and a draft pick.

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jackson and how high of a pick?

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Its a nice dream but they would never trade him to a division rival. I doubt they would trade him at all even with his contract expiring. They would franchise tag him.

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Exactly, they\'ll franchise tag him next year and if we, or anyone else wants him, they\'ll have to give up a first rounder and a ton of cash. He is THE guy on that team. The instrument that started it all for them. Who helped get them out the NFL cellar and eventually bring them to a Super Bowl. He\'ll retire in Tampa... that\'s my bet.

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id give up jackson and a 2nd rounder and possibly a 3rd since we have no 4th

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Man, i cant say id want sapp at all. I know i was just talking about defensive leaders, but i dont think itll be worth it. Sapps a fine player, we all know that, but i think in a year or two we would be paying for what he used to be and not what he is. What ive heard and read tells me Sapp isnt exactly the biggest fan of the weight room and he really doesnt make that defense anymore. Remember how we beat them last season? Partly by having Duece cram the ball down their throats. If a second year back that still has pounds of information to learn (no knock on duece there), what can an experienced guy do?

maybe just crazy talk.......sapp?
 

Thumbs up to having Sapp. He\'ll be good for years to come. Correct me if i\'m wrong, and God knows i\'ve been wrong before, but weren\'t the Bucs without Sapps partner in crime,the Booger man McFarland in at least one of the games we won? To me that would have a big impact on your d-line.

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I think Booger was out almost all year for them. Frankly, if Booger can ever stay healthy, I think he has potential to be better than Sapp... but that\'s just me.

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The big rumor that floated out was that the Bucs were making comments just to that effect, that McFarland was better than Sapp and that Sapp was available to be had.
It is just my opinion, but I really dislike theguy as a person and as a player. From a personal standpoint he is excessively egotistical and actually distracts himself from his play at times. On the field he is a good penetrating tackle and is decent enough against the run but he takes plays off (at least when I\'ve watched them) and is more concerned with spending time in front of the camera than the QB. I can\'t see him being dominant at all any more unless he plays with guys like Rice and McFarland. Make him the showpiece of a line and he won\'t cut it. Surround him with talent and he will be above average. Again, just my opinion but I\'d rather have a John Lynch type of player that takes care of business and the game wouldn\'t change if there was no cameras out there. I dislike the personality of the lime light players such as Sapp.
Probably get blasted for this.

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I won\'t blast you Lumm0x. In fact, I agree completely. Pat Swilling syndrome. Look at how dominant he was when he was playing with Wilks, Warren, Martin, Mills, Johnson, and Swilling. But what did he do in Detroit or Oakland? Nothing.

I have a couple of friends that are huge Bucs fans and they all say the same thing - Sapp is overrated. You ever notice how the Saints \"spokesman to the world\", the guy who is always mentioned on commercials or previews is Aaron Brooks? I think that\'s a major misconception. Deuce is more important to this team than Brooks (right now). So is Horn. Hell, you could even say Darren Howard or Sammy Knight was. But Brooks gets all the attention. That\'s what happens in Tampa. Sapp isn\'t chopped liver, but I think most Bucs fans would tell you if it were between him and Rice, Brooks, Quarles, Lynch, or maybe even Barber, Sapp should be given his walking papers before any of these other guys.

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The only problem with that is that Pat Swilling is my favorite Saints player.
I agree that he wasn\'t productive in Detroit or Oakland, but he was my favorite here. Although he wasn\'t the best LB we had at the time he was the first one I climbed aboard the bandwagon for.

I was really hurt when they shipped him to Detroit even though the deal was very good for us at the time and over time.

Somebody get me a Swilling avatar please. I love Rickey too....but I\'d love a Swilling even more.

[Edited on 30/4/2003 by lumm0x]

maybe just crazy talk.......sapp?
 

darren howard or sammy knight more important than AB? dat have you lost your mind? duece yes horn maybe, but how can you say 2 defensive guys on one of the worst defenses in the league last year are more important than AB one of the top 5 QB\'s in the nfl? i usually have respect for what you say here but if crap like that starts coming out i\'m going to have to disregard anything you say, do you really think delhomme coulda had the year AB had?

maybe just crazy talk.......sapp?
 

Sapp is overrated. His 2001 probowl appearance especially was bogus. He would be a good leader for this team if it were to happen. But it won\'t. He gets attention for being a clown more than being a good player. We do need a player to go in and claim responsibility for this defense and have someone that the players want to play even harder for. I\'d rather have Sullivan play for us, even though he is a rookie, than Sapp.

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With the addition of Sullivan I like our current D-Line as far as starters and depth. It\'s our LBers that are the problem. We need a Ray Lewis, Brian Urlacher, Zach Thomas mold of LB to be the leader of our defense. All of the great D\'s have had a MLB that stands out on them. We are really missing this aspect on our defense.

maybe just crazy talk.......sapp?
 

Sapp will be too expensive. I\'d prefer a less controversial player. And one that won\'t break the bank (causing us to hold off when Champ Bailey comes looking in free agency).

I believe the cap hit could be better spent.

maybe just crazy talk.......sapp?
 

I do look for us to try an sign a MLB. I\'m not sure who\'s still out there or who might be available in June. I\'ll look around in my free time. Hey good news, that\'s all I have is free time. :P

maybe just crazy talk.......sapp?
 

joe, while ur busy doing nothing else... call the psychic hotline and find out how the season is gonna go... oh and get the lotto #s fo next week... i need $$

maybe just crazy talk.......sapp?
 

Clowdy? and you say I can\'t spell LOL. Psychic says the season will go. and next weeks lotto numbers are 4 :D

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oh man, ur right joe, i really messed that one up, i thought it looked kinda funny when i first put it up there, but i went wit it... and u got me, doesnt happen often, but u got me..... but i fixed it...lol.. so thats the end of your glory.... :P
and 4?
just 4?

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Listen man, I\'m really sorry about the 4 thing. You see the psychic didn\'t speak english and I don\'t speak Latvian. I\'m pretty sure she said either four or whore, I\'m not really sure.LOL :D

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lol u wild man... how much did that call cost u? hope it wasnt too much, if it did, then im glad it wasnt me that called, i wouldnt want to give up my arm... thats goin on Lumms wall LOL

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No arms and only one leg. But heh, I got her, I gave her the one with the 4 operations. Dumb Bioch. That\'ll teach her to mess with a man that\'s been married 3 times. HaHaHa.