Payton... days are counting...
 

ok, put me down for 2 years on the pool how long he lasts.

RE: Payton... days are counting...
 

If Haslett can make it as long as he did, then Peyton can last at least 4 years.

RE: Payton... days are counting...
 

C'mon Euph. At least give the guy a chance. They have brought in Brees, drafted Bush and picked up a starting center and got some help on the D-Line. They also picked up Fujita and Simmons.

Patient you must be.

RE: Payton... days are counting...
 

2 years is is being patient. Brees I'll give you a draw on... Bush fell into our laps, we the Jets are doing exactly what we need to be doing. The center is average at best I would say just below average but I'll give you a draw on that as well. FA's I'll give you that but this draft is blowing. Can he now get this team to win???

RE: Payton... days are counting...
 

Welcome to the Moonshiner's Club, Euph!

RE: Payton... days are counting...
 

Euph, Faine is better at center than Nesbit. Now Nesbit can be guard, where he is better suited playing, and also be a back-up center.

We aren't all going to agree with Coach P's decisons right now. Let's see how they do with the rest of the draft and FA.

No matter what, this team is going to better than last year. At least admit that.

Coach P is getting some players that can contribute now and some guys that can be contributers in a couple years.

RE: Payton... days are counting...
 

All the coaches are doing that but most are getting players without reaching for them. hey I am giving him 2 years to get some of these guys in this draft to start if not SEE YA. I don't want to wait 7-8-10 years from now when Bush is a hasbeen, lets make a run for a SB while we can.

The title to this thread should be "Saints Support Group Thread".

My name is Iceshack149 and I am a Saints fan.

"Hi Iceshack"...

The second day has been kinder to me. I like getting Hollis Thomas, though I would like to have gotten Jean-Giles. I haven't got any clue. I'm not physically there to analyze talent at games or at the combine. I should stop fooling myself into believing that I'M the one that should be making the calls.

We've got an OT, WR, and finally a CB. Hass by the way makes me think of Chrebet. I'll be happy if he turns out to be like him. Great hands.

DE again? We'll see. He's been refered to as a tweener and a good special teams option.

I feel better already. Thanks for listening guys. Got a tissue?

I give Peyton 10 years max, if he continues to make the good moves that he has made in this years offseason and continues to improve the coaching staff like he did this year. I'm very pleased, overall, with the progress and know that miracles happen overnight but not usualy Rudy stories. So, I'm settling for what already looks like a miracle to me with the improved defence right off the bat and improved offence right off the bat which will easily make our 14th ranked Defence a top 10er this year.. So, I'm pumped, looking at the facts. Would i like to gt a Ty Law to REALY make me feel fully confident on our chances at a playoff/championship run, hell yeah.. but we cant fix everything in one offseason, especialy considering how terrible the organisation has been in recent years. Some of you guys are bing unrealistic in your expectations and it's kinda offending to see so I am being as little unrealistic with my optimism but it more then makes up for the unrealistic negativety from some of you.

unrealistic... how many safties you think it takes to win??? How many RB's you think we need to win??? Who's going to block for Reggie, well he doesn't need many blockers but Deuce does.

Don't forget about Karney! I completely forgot about that guy for a while. Karney opening up holes for Reggie Bush - THAT'S a scary thought.


I'm not sure how well Payton is going to do as a coach, but I like the way he's dealing with the discipline problem. It seems Haslett had a hard time keeping our team in line. We definately should see less penalties this year - unless Payton's attempts were all in vain.

If we get a kicker with one of the next two picks I'll feel even better about the draft. Do the Saints even have a kicker right now?

Faine...
 

I think we can all agree that Bentley is a better athelete then Faine is.
And he also one of the top five guards in the league.

But,
our line wasnt great with him at center.
it was better with Jerry Fontenot making the calls.
Sure, Jerry could get blown up sometimes, but at least the line seemed to f-up individually (with Victim Riley and Wayne Gimpy.) and not as an entire line as we have witnessed since Jerry's departure.

So maybe Faine will allow the line to be greater than the sum of its parts.

and i cant back this up with a link, but strictly hypothetically:
Does is seem like we incurred more line penalties since Jerrys departure?

If anyone can prove this let me know, i would venture its true.

RE: Faine...
 

I see Payton in N.O 5 years min. but has a good chance to be around for a long time.
I think Payton will do down as a great coach in N.O

RE: Faine...
 

so do i ltf. all this is coming from the craft is great supporter. he has been um um. yeah yeah. euph you have a hard time selling this or anything else. a better thread might be does craft actually go into the season on the saints roster.

RE: Faine...
 

what am I trying to sale??? I am giving him 2 years and if we don't make some significant improvement see ya. RB's don't last to long in this league not as long as OL men...

Re: RE: Faine...
 

But Mr. benson, he just got here, and you are paying him very well. :rolleyes: