Deuce trade?
 

So now that we have Bush and 60 safeties, are we planning on keeping Deuce until next year to make sure Reggie is the next L.T. or are we looking to trade Deuce away now and pick up a stud LB? We still have no middle linebacker and we passed on Hodge so I'm wondering what we can get for Deuce to help out the D? Maybe Dan Morgan and some picks?

RE: Deuce trade?
 

if you been payaing attention you would rwealise Duece has a contract till 2012 and the Saints would take a huge hit in the salary cap if they were to trade him. Duece in untradeable.

I understand that, but there's no possible way we can keep both of these guys happy for long before one of them pulls a McKenzie or Jevon Walker. The way I see it, we're going to take the hit anyway unless we sign Reggie to a short contract and trade him. Morgan is a solid MLB and would greatly help our D. If we are successful now, it will help the city A LOT just like signing Bush.

Eventually
 

Eventually we might trade Deuce, but that will come in time. Like he said he is contracted until 2012. We cant trade away our guy now before Bush has even proven himself in the NFL. If it happens it will probably be in 2 to 3 years. Look at how successful Kansas City has been with there RB's.

Why is this a new topic every day? :roll:

RE: Eventually
 

Almost every team in the NfL is realizing that you practicaly need two decent RB to have an effective rushing attack. There are so many ways that we can use Bush that he is worth about 3 players (RB, WR, and KR-PR.) I think the only problem that we will have is if he just doesn't want to play for the Saints. Also, their is no way that the Panthers would trade Morgan in their own division or that the Saints would trade Duece to a team in their division.

Re: Eventually
 

Yeah. Look at all those playoff wins and Superbowls they are racking up....oh wait....

RE: Re: Eventually
 

A plus with keeping Deuce around especially with a young Bush coming in who Deuce himself loves it..
A guy at work who loved Deuce is acting like he's no longer needed, a has been, I told him Deuce has been good to the Saints just because you draft Bush don't say Deuce is no longer needed because he is, now I know the NFL is a business and that if they couldn't afford Deuce then the Saints would have to trade him but that's not the case with the Saints, not this season anyway...
I want Deuce around, don't turn your back on him now...

I'm not turning my back on Deuce at all. If you look at my draft grade post you'll see that I will be sad to see him go if and when he does. I'm speaking logistically. I think Deuce will work with Bush and he's a very good player and person. I just don't see him and Bush here until 2012. My point was more that a big reason we got Bush is to help rebuild the city. Having a solid MLB now would help the team be more competitive to win this season to also help the city. Bennet is an outstanding back up for Bush or Deuce so trading Deuce still leaves us 2 excellent RBs and could fill a bid hole on D and help the city. It's fine to disagree with me, but please don't think I consider Deuce old news or that I don't like him. The Panthers need a RB and I'm sure they'd salivate over Deuce big time. We do move a lot of players within our division (Smith and Tebucky for example) so I don't see it as bad for either team.

RE: Re: Eventually
 

There is no reason to even consider trading Deuce. Reggie projects as a 15 touch per game type of guy. Give him 8 to 10 running attempts, and use him in the passing game. That is where Reggie is projected to be at his best. Still need a stud RB to carry the load around 20 times per game. That is where Deuce is valuable. For Deuce to even think about 30 carries a game is out of the question. Anyone coming off a major knee injury has to take it easy. Let Deuce take around 20 and let Reggie do the rest. This should extend Deuce's career for many years under this type of plan. Deuce should still get around 1200 yards and make the pro-bowl once he is fully recovered.

Re: Eventually
 

Holmes and Johnson have put up incredible numbers. The RB situation there isn't why they're not getting deep in to the playoffs.

A major difference is that both of the Chiefs RB's are 25+ carry a game backs. While Deuce is, Reggie isn't, and thats why we won't have problems like KC is making Johnson happy while Holmes gets his carries (when he's healthy).

The Panthers just gave a new contract to Deshaun Foster last year and drafted the second best RB in the draft. Plus they have Eric Shelton from last year. They do not need a RB at all.

I wouldn't want to send any Saints player to the Panthers much less The Deuce

Deuce is too good a guy to lose...he needs to stay in Black and Gold until he's done playing

Well he maynot finish his career here, but i know he will not be trade anytime soon.

Why would we draft Bush and then trade him? If we didn't plan on keeping him then we should've taken the Jets offer of two 1s and a 3.

bush aint going anywhere, deuce aint going anywhere... we will have a 2 headed monster at running back and thats all there is to it...

so let it be written, so let it be done... :wink:

Jets didn't offer both the first rounders for Bush... This is similar to what Bush was in USC... Lendale was the workhorse.

Re: Eventually
 

[quote="smyce"]Yeah. Look at all those playoff wins and Superbowls they are racking up....oh wait....[/quote

Yeah look at all the SB wins the Steelers have with using 2 rbs... oh yeah they won last year..........

RE: Re: Eventually
 

Thank you allsaints. Pitsburg has been dominating with two backs for years they got there first SB win last year. They have been contenders for the better part of 10 years, and the dominating rushing attack keeps the defense fresh.

RE: Re: Eventually
 

The only way Duece gets traded is if he wants it. He would have to be willing to restructure his contract to make it happen.

Personally I think keeping him is a good idea.

RE: Re: Eventually
 

Actually they had 3 last year, Bettis, Staley (parts of the season atleast) and then speedy gonzales whos name I can't remember.

RE: Re: Eventually
 

fast willie parker

Running backs have a short shelf life especially when they are forced to carry the whole load...now of course there are exceptions to the rule but what i am saying is that Deuce and Reggie need each other. Ankle sprains are gonna happen. Ligaments will get torn. Legs will get worn down. Their bodies will be beat up. The two of them being able to spell each other will prolong their pro careers dramatically. Aren't you tired of having Lamar Smith, Antowain Smith, Curtis Keaton, Ki-Jana Carter, Aaron Stecker, or any other one of the countless has beens running the ball for the Saints...now we wont have the problem for the forseeable future. Take it for what it is...a blessing.

AMEN! Wake up "HATERS"! The offense is going to kick some serious B-HIND.

Now we just have to wonder what the defense will do.

If you were a Saints hater the last few years you'll really hate us from now on because we'll be beating teams you love.
Go ahead and hate, it won't bother Saints fans..

This topic is stupid, we are not trading duece anytime soon, nor should we. We had alot of cap room when the offseason started and even more since we didn't resign some big money guys like Bentley and replaced them with guys on a B level instead of an A level but making D level money.. We're in great shape for atleast two to three years with the cap. This isnt SanFran or Atlanta.

I said this once in about.com forums, but I will say it here. When Brees gets his arm, we will witnesss the GREATEST SHOW ON TURF Paret 2. But we have the added demension of Deuce, so more Faulk (Bush) outside on the WR/slot. This will be really good, I can't wait to see it. (I know the o line wil be key question, just shut up and let me enjoy the moment :))

Duece already stated he wants to retire a saint

Unfortunately, Dulymus has no trade value. He's done nothing the past 2 years, because he's been hurt, which was the knock on him that made him slip in the draft.

Agree with all that.

The have MLB on the team.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...aturday/1.html

• "Ah, now I know why they call him Deuce McAllister. As in second-string. As in backing up Reggie Bush sooner than later. As in count on it. I have a feeling Deuce isn't exactly going to be happy playing LenDale White to Bush."

wow... obviously that guy doesnt know deuce very well...

That's why it's called "snap" judgments and not "good" judgments.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/ins...6/banks_deuce/

An interesting read from 2002 when Deuce became the feature back. Aside from Bush being a no brainer of a pick I think the bets are hedged(Bennett signed) on Deuce being able to singlehandly carry the running game. the issue is would Deuce be comfortable being part of run by committee? This writer Don Banks does not think so...