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saintswhodi 05-10-2006 10:19 AM

Here we go again. :roll:

gandhi1007 05-10-2006 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo
Adrian Peterson out of Oklahoma really is the second coming of Jim Brown. He's the most dominant player in the college game and really a once in a lifetime player.


:lolup: I know he didn't!!!!!!!

saintbuck 05-10-2006 10:33 AM

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Adrian Peterson out of Oklahoma really is the second coming of Jim Brown. He's the most dominant player in the college game and really a once in a lifetime player.
It seems strange to me that there will be 2 once in a lifetime players go in back to back drafts. Maybe they are a couple of good runningbacks, and maybe, just maybe, before we die, we will see another "once in a lifetime player"

BrooksMustGo 05-10-2006 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gandhi1007
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Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo
Adrian Peterson out of Oklahoma really is the second coming of Jim Brown. He's the most dominant player in the college game and really a once in a lifetime player.

:lolup: I know he didn't!!!!!!!

Giggle if you want, it won't make it any less true. He's single handedly carried that team his entire career. Great size, great speed, great power. He's not a great receiver, but he's in that Jim Brown mold. I imagine Bill Cowher is scheming to get him right now.

saintswhodi 05-10-2006 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by gandhi1007
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Originally Posted by BrooksMustGo
Adrian Peterson out of Oklahoma really is the second coming of Jim Brown. He's the most dominant player in the college game and really a once in a lifetime player.


:lolup: I know he didn't!!!!!!!

Like I said, here we go again. Just, wow. :shock:

TallySaint 05-10-2006 11:11 AM

If we disagree with an opinion, we ridicule. Is that the way it works?

Just checkin'.








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saintswhodi 05-10-2006 11:22 AM

http://www.bloomingbritain.com/webca...scargrouch.jpg

LSUJeremy 05-10-2006 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TallySaint
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Clearly, though, we'll be trading up to draft Landry.

Clearly? Huh?






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You don't think Payton's already foaming at the mouth to draft Landry?

gandhi1007 05-10-2006 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TallySaint
If we disagree with an opinion, we ridicule. Is that the way it works?

Just checkin'.








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It was the comparison to Jim Brown. Peterson had one dominant year 2 years ago as a freshman when nobody knew who he was in a weaker Big 12 conference than normal. Comparing someone to Jim Brown after 1 good year was (at least to me) hilarious. No offense BMG. We all have our own opinions. :wink:

TallySaint 05-10-2006 11:29 AM

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You don't think Payton's already foaming at the mouth to draft Landry?
I don't know. Possibly. I just thought it was a bold statement for something a year off, that's all. Thanks for your useful info overall. Interesting stuff.



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saintswhodi 05-10-2006 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LSUJeremy
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Originally Posted by TallySaint
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Clearly, though, we'll be trading up to draft Landry.

Clearly? Huh?






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You don't think Payton's already foaming at the mouth to draft Landry?

I wonder how long you can keep this going. 8)

To jump on, I also think Landry is no doubt at the top of our board no matter who comes out next year. Our board looks like:

1. LARON LANDRY!!!!!!! :heart: :heart: :heart: :love: :love:
2. Everyone else...... :flush:

BrooksMustGo 05-10-2006 11:40 AM

You're right, I probably shouldn't compare him to Jim Brown. In 3 years in the pros people will be comparing Jim Brown to him.

People will be telling their kids, "Well son, I guess the best football player before Adrian Peterson was probably Jim Brown."

Canton will have to divide the HOF into the Pre-Adrian and Post-Adrian wings.

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Jackie Sherrill: "In a less surprising pick, Sherrill said he considered Oklahoma’s Adrian Peterson to be the best running back. “I’ve been there watching him come out of meetings without a shirt on,� Sherrill said. “I’ve watched him practice and I’ve watched him in games. When you have a kid that plays that hard every second in practice, then realize the strength he has, plus he’s a 4.3 (40-yard dash) kid, that gets your attention.�

CBS Sportsline picks OU 5th. Oklahoma: Peterson will be the Reggie Bush of 2007, in a good way.

College Football News 2007 Underclassmen likely to go info the draft next year.
1. RB Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma – Remember the Matt Leinart created when he announced he’d be back at USC for his senior year? If Peterson decides to return to school in 2007, it’ll be even bigger news. He’s a once-every-generation franchise back, who’ll have a difficult time ignoring the high first-round grade he gets later this year. Not since Bo Jackson 20 years ago has a college back had such a blend of power and speed, and depending on the need of its owner, the top overall pick could be Peterson or Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn.
http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2...ft/Juniors.htm

TallySaint 05-10-2006 11:45 AM

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You're right, I probably shouldn't compare him to Jim Brown. In 3 years in the pros people will be comparing Jim Brown to him.

People will be telling their kids, "Well son, I guess the best football player before Adrian Peterson was probably Jim Brown."

Canton will have to divide the HOF into the Pre-Adrian and Post-Adrian wings.

I retract my ridicule statement. I now understand. :lol:


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LSUJeremy 05-10-2006 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TallySaint
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You don't think Payton's already foaming at the mouth to draft Landry?
I don't know. Possibly. I just thought it was a bold statement for something a year off, that's all. Thanks for your useful info overall. Interesting stuff.



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No, I was being VERY sarcastic. :D

I'm obviously an LSU fan, and I know what kind of player Landry is after watching him for 3 years, but I'll stroke out if we draft him in the 1st rd next year.

LSUJeremy 05-10-2006 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
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Originally Posted by LSUJeremy
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Originally Posted by TallySaint
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Clearly, though, we'll be trading up to draft Landry.

Clearly? Huh?






8)

You don't think Payton's already foaming at the mouth to draft Landry?

I wonder how long you can keep this going. 8)

To jump on, I also think Landry is no doubt at the top of our board no matter who comes out next year. Our board looks like:

1. LARON LANDRY!!!!!!! :heart: :heart: :heart: :love: :love:
2. Everyone else...... :flush:

LOL

I can't help it.

LSUJeremy 05-10-2006 12:06 PM

Pak, this is another bit about the offense in the Peach Bowl. This is a post from the Lair by a guy who knows Kyle Williams and his family really well...

we simplified the run blocking to ...

Posted by tigerline using 70.151.12.10 on May 10, 2006 at 9:02 a.m.


accomodate the wishes of our senior OLs expressed to the coaches after the SECC.
the miami gameplan was to go away from the zone blocking that we had done all year - all of the traps, pulls, chips, and reach blocks that had characterized our run blocking all season. we had a lot of instances where our big uglies were just late getting to their assigned zone.

at the seniors' request, the gameplan called for smashmouth running plays. our big guys got to tee off on the defender in front of him and just roadgrade him into oblivion. EVERYBODY was fired up about this gameplan, EVERYBODY got a lift and practiced better anticipating the switch. btw, ga tech had proven late in the season just how vulnerable miami could be in the face of this kind of direct assault. we went into the game with a lot of confidence.

after the first couple of series, while we hadn't dominated them, we had sent them a message. soon, we were just mauling the front seven in the running game. they flat quit. they didn't want any part of that kind of football.

the success in the running game, combined with the mental victory in the trenches, was a huge factor in our success. flynn's leadership was another.

LSUJeremy 05-11-2006 11:53 AM

This guy will be added to that RB list this year -

http://media.putfile.com/LSU-Footbal...pital-One-Bowl

gandhi1007 05-11-2006 12:04 PM

Broussard will be warming the bench with the rest of the RB's.

This guy will take the job as a freshman without a doubt. He is a beast.........

*Keiland Williams, RB, 6'0", 220, 4.37, Hargrave (VA) Military Academy by way of Northside High School, Lafayette. Williams received over 30 scholarship offers and chose LSU over USC and Ole Miss. Williams is a prime-time prospect and will likely play as a true freshman at LSU.

I watched this kid at Northside 2 years ago & he is definately the real deal!!! :D

LSUJeremy 05-11-2006 12:13 PM

I can't wait to see Williams. Have heard a lot about him. I don't think he's gonna RS. He's definitely going to see the field. Broussard's supposedly back to 100% according to people who have heard Miles this week at Gridiron Clud meetings.

Antonio Robinson is another. Cam Vaughn said last year he was getting tired of being run over by him in practice.

RJ Jackson blew his knee out in spring practices.

Charles Scott is also coming in in this class with Williams and he was "Mr. Football" in LA this year.

Justin Vincent is recovering from his knee injury, but the question is if he can be the back he was in '03.

I think the top 2 backs for LSU this year are Broussard and Williams. Who starts, I don't know.

Sick depth.

gandhi1007 05-11-2006 12:17 PM

Word is Keiland Williams is up to 226 lbs. & hasn't lost a bit of that 4.37 speed. That's a freight train. I can't wait to see the offense this season. The only concern is if our receivers can catch the damn ball!!!!!!!!

LSUJeremy 05-11-2006 12:20 PM

Bowe apparently had an eye problem and had surgery to fix it. Has to be a contributing factor to some of those drops.

On that list posted or players to watch for next year I was surprised it was Doucet first, Bowe second, and Craig Davis not at all. I almost have to think you reverse that.

gandhi1007 05-11-2006 12:26 PM

Doucet, as talented as he is, dropped so many balls that I lost count. Buster began holding on to the ball better as the season progressed, but he dropped alot early on. Bowe was probably the most sure handed all together last year. I'm glad he got his eyes fixed. At least he's addressing some of the problem.

hagan714 05-12-2006 12:03 PM

Based more on needs. Then again if a Bush drops in our lap Oh Well
Were they may fall:
1-10
Paul Posluszny OLB Penn State 6-2 230 4.56 He injured a knee in the Orange Bowl victory over FSU; otherwise he would have been in this year's draft. He could be next year's A.J. HawkThough the impact made by seniors Michael Robinson, Tamba Hali and Alan Zemaitis on Penn State's turnaround last season cannot be overstated, neither can the force that was Posluszny. He not only won the Butkus Award as the nation's elite linebacker, but also the Chuck Bednarik Award as the nation's top defensive player. His 116 tackles led the team and his consistency became a trademark. Last season he became the first Big Ten student-athlete selected Football Player of the Week (Offense, Defense or Special Teams) three consecutive weeks since the conference began the selections in 1987.

Quinn Pitcock DT Ohio State 6-3 298 4.87 : Bullish defensive tackle whose combination of 6-3, 295-pound frame and rare pure strength make him one of top run defending interior linemen to watch for in the 2007 draft. Pitcock has earned starting action each of the past three seasons, but didn't develop into a full-time starter until last season. Pitcock lacks quickness off the snap and isn't a pass rush threat, but his ability to stand up blockers at the point of attack, locate the ball, shed and make the tackle has scouts interested.

10-20
H.B. Blades ILB Pittsburgh 6-0 240 4.63 : A two-time first-team All-Big East selection, Blades returns for his senior season as one of the elite defenders in the collegiate ranks. Moving from the strong side to middle linebacker last season, Blades exploded, leading all Big East defenders with 121 tackles and ranking 13th nationally with an average of 11 tackles per game. He certainly has the bloodlines: His father, Bennie, and his uncles Al and Brian, were standouts at the University of Miami and went on to successful careers in the NFL.

Leon Hall CB Michigan 6-0 200 4.43 : He is a fluid cover corner who has 25 career pass breakups. He has the size teams love in a corner. Hall has been called Michigan's top cornerback since Heisman winner Charles Woodson. A veteran of 37 career games, including 24 starts, Hall has 25 passes broken up and 9 interceptions, both leading all current Wolverines. Hall has earned Big Ten honors after each of the past two seasons and could be in line for All-American honors in 2006

Marcus Thomas DT Florida 6-3 290 5.08 : A starter during each of the past three seasons, Thomas has never posted fewer than 39 tackles or more than 47. NFL scouts love Thomas' 6-3, 290-pound frame, but perhaps because the game seems to come so easy to him, the expectations are that he has the potential to enjoy a truly dominant 2006. Thomas' tackles for loss have risen from 3.5 to 7.5 to 10.5 over the past three seasons, and NFL scouts are already asking Florida coaches about the talented tackle

LaRon Landry FS LSU 6-2 205 4.46 : He has size and range to be an effective free safety on the next level. He always seems to be around the ball. One of the top defensive backs in the country since he first stepped onto the field for the Bayou Bengals -- earning SEC accolades since his freshman season. He is an athletic, instinctive and incredibly productive free safety who led LSU in tackles in both 2003 and 2004 and enters his senior season with 241 career tackles to go along with 9 interceptions and 18 passes broken up. LaRon is the young brother of 2006 prospect Dawan Landry, a safety from Georgia Tech who was drafted in the fifth round by Baltimore.

20-25
Brandon Mebane DT California 6-3 305 4.93 With Oregon DT Haloti Ngata moving on to the NFL, Pac-10 fans should shift their focus to Cal's Mebane, who is becoming a similar force at the point of attack. The first-team All Pac-10 defender finished with only 22.5 tackles last season, but 16.5 of those were behind the line of scrimmage, including 7.0 sacks.

Steve Breaston WR Michigan 6-1 182 4.52 : While Braylon Edwards and Jason Avant have taken most of the attention in previous seasons, 2006 should be Breaston's coming out party. Breaston has a silky smooth running style and penchant for making the big play in the big game. He has emerged not only as a quality receiver, but also as a big-play return specialist. Breaston joined former Wisconsin standout Nick Davis as the only players in Big Ten history with 1,000 career yards in three different categories (receiving, kick return, punt return).

Patrick Willis ILB Mississippi 6-2 232 4.65 : He led the SEC in tackles last year, which says something about his ability to get to the football. At 6-2, 235, he has the size teams want in their linebackers. Patrick Willis, ILB, Mississippi: Perhaps due to Mississippi's 4-8 record last season, too few around the country know of Willis, a 2005 All-American and the nation's leader in average solo tackles per game (9.0). Willis finished last season with 128 total tackles, 9.5 tackles for loss (-42), three sacks (-28), two caused fumbles, one fumble recovery, three passes defensed, two quarterback pressures and one pass interception. Willis produced despite struggling through a broken middle finger on his right hand, a sprained left knee, a right mid-foot injury and a partial AC joint separation of his right shoulder. He underwent successful surgery to his right foot last December and has been sidelined since, although he is expected to be ready by August.

Earl Everett OLB Florida 6-2 232 4.59 : Everett has emerged as one of the SEC's key defenders over the past two seasons. A second-team SEC choice after the 2004 and 2005 seasons, Everett has averaged 73 tackles and four tackles for loss, the most of any Gator during that time. Everett, at 6-2, 232 pounds, has classic size for the position and plays an intense, explosive brand of football that the NFL loves

Some to watch:

Antoine Cason Arizona CB 6-1 180 : Good cover corners always seem to rise to the top of a draft. Cason has that ability. Playing in Arizona's aggressive defense, he gets a lot of chances to play man coverage, which scouts love to see

Brandon Siler LB Florida 6-2 235 : This junior has a chance to be a big-time player on the next level. He is a tackling machine for the Gators, a guy who can run and chase as well as any linebacker in the country.

Daymeion Hughes CB California 6-2 188 4.52 is a lock-down defender whose stock is on the rise, and might be one of the top two corners in next year's draft.

If Brees stays healthy trade the house for this guy.

Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech: A junior in 2006, this kid has all the tools to be a great one. He's the premier receiver in the country with outstanding size (6-4, 225), 4.4 speed and great hands. As a likely Top 5 pick, he's not apt to stick around for his senior season. He's almost a lock to come out next year.

I would trade Horn, Beerman, Donte and Hernderson for him. More so if our draft choices live up to the billing. We need picks for next year.

hagan714 05-12-2006 12:05 PM

Most of the info came from fox sports as well as a couple of other sites

LSUJeremy 05-12-2006 12:09 PM

OM's Patrick Willis is a player. Plays hurt, plays good, and is always around the ball.

I'd never have thought that Bennie Blades was old enough to have a son about to be in the NFL. Weird.

hagan714 05-12-2006 12:29 PM

LSUJeremy :ohno: two of use will be on the edge of our seats for the saints to pick him

LSUJeremy 05-12-2006 12:33 PM

hagan, did you watch the Ariz. St./LSU game this past year? #44 Robinson, for ASU was all over the field making plays. I have no idea why, but he went undrafted. Signed as an UFA with the Colts. He and Willis remind me of each other.

pakowitz 05-12-2006 12:36 PM

that dude is a beast

hagan714 05-12-2006 05:03 PM

alot of strange things happened this year in the draft. Could not believe the good players that went as UDFA.
Robinson was on a list for me and i was suprised he went UD. heck Hass still has me in amazement.

smyce 05-12-2006 06:22 PM

Willis is a force for sure. Good thing the rest of the team sucks cause that might pose a problem for the Tigers.

My favorite player to watch this season will be Posluszny from Penn State. I think he can be the best LB we've seen in a while and certainly better than A.J. Hawk. Unfortunately and hopefully, the Saints wont have a high enough draft pick to take him.

Someone earlier in the thread said LaRon Landry will be the best pro to come out of LSU. I tend to agree. He is a bonafide stud. Too bad he's a safety.

JimBone 05-12-2006 07:26 PM

The LB from Arizona State was Dale Robinson...he is just too slow to play in the NFL...Patrick Willis is much faster and more capable of playing in the NFL...plus, if you lead the SEC in tackles, you are doing a hell of a job.

LSUJeremy 05-12-2006 07:44 PM

I don't know if he's to slow. He sure gave LSU all they wanted.


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