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saintswhodi 05-09-2006 01:54 PM

Never too early: Top players for 2007
 
Stanton could challenge Quinn for top spotBy Todd McShay
Scouts Inc.
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Now that the 2006 NFL draft is in the books, it's time to take a look forward to next year's class. The following is a sneak peek at my initial list of the top 12 senior prospects for the 2007 draft:

1. Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame
By returning to school for another season, Quinn avoided the logjam of quarterbacks that was atop the 2006 draft board. He also should benefit from another season of tutelage under head coach Charlie Weis, who performed magic with sixth-round pick Tom Brady as coordinator of the New England Patriots. Quinn enters his fourth season as a starter at Notre Dame and boasts an impressive blend of arm strength, size and leadership skills. If his coverage reads and prudence continue to progress at a similar pace in 2006, Quinn could become the top pick in next year's draft.

2. Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin
Thomas was rumored to be leaning toward leaving school early for the 2006 draft, for which he projected as a mid-to-late first-round pick. But his decision was made easy when he suffered a right knee injury in Wisconsin's win over Auburn in the Capital One Bowl. Coincidentally, the injury occurred while he was subbing in as a defensive tackle along the Badgers' injury-riddled defensive line. If Thomas can return to form after offseason rehabilitation, he could become the top offensive lineman off next year's draft board.



A strong senior season would make Quinn the heavy favorite to become the No. 1 pick in '07.
3. Drew Stanton, QB, Michigan State
Stanton shows the potential to emerge as a dynamic starting quarterback in the NFL. He has all the physical tools, including the size, arm strength and athletic ability. Most important, Stanton has the "it" factor, showing rare intangibles as a leader and competitor. Durability has been an issue in the past. But if he can stay on the field and perform more consistently in 2006, Stanton will become Quinn's biggest competitor for top-dog honors in the 2007 draft.

4. Michael Bush, RB, Louisville
Bush rushed for 1,143 yards and 23 touchdowns on 205 carries as a junior in 2005 despite missing two games with an ankle sprain. On top of his outstanding combination of size and speed, Bush shows good versatility as a receiver and blocker. Bush grades out as the top senior running back prospect in next year's draft class and could give Oklahoma RB Adrian Peterson a run for his money should Peterson elect to leave school after his junior year.

5. Paul Posluszny, OLB, Penn State
Posluszny tore two ligaments in his right knee during Penn State's victory over Florida State in this year's Orange Bowl, but the injury did not require surgery. If he can rebound fully and continue to dominate the college ranks the way he did with 116 total tackles as a junior last season, Posluszny could be the top linebacker selected in the 2007 draft.

6. Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson
Adams was seriously considering taking the NFL plunge, but he was getting mixed signals from the league's advisory board, his college coaches, potential agents and other counselors. Instead of risking disappointment, Adams made the wise decision to return to Clemson for his final season in 2006. If he picks up where he left off as a junior (15 tackles for loss, including 9½ sacks), Adams will rank among the top defensive prospects in the 2007 class.

7. Kenny Irons, RB, Auburn
After breaking out with 1,259 rushing yards in Auburn's final 10 games last season, Irons has emerged as a legitimate prospect to monitor at running back next year. With a good combination of size and speed to go with his punishing north-south running style, Irons could be a perfect fit for teams employing power-run offensive schemes (see: Panthers and Steelers).

8. Justin Blalock, OT, Texas
Blalock is a monster of a man. Overshadowed by teammate Jonathan Scott the past couple of seasons, Blalock finally will get his due recognition as the best offensive lineman not only in Texas but arguably in the nation. Blalock might never be a great fit as a left tackle in the NFL, but he should quickly emerge as a dominant force on the right side. Quicker feet as a senior could land him in the top 10 of next year's draft.

9. LaRon Landry, DS, LSU
Landry has been terrorizing opposing quarterbacks and ball carriers since showing up on Baton Rouge's campus as a freshman in 2003. Three years later and with far more experience under his belt, Landry should rank among the elite defensive prospects in the 2007 draft. Landry checks in at only 190 pounds, but he fills hard versus the run and hits like a linebacker. Landry shows as much range as any safety in college football and is a true ball hawk with nine career interceptions leading up to his senior campaign. The NFL is looking for versatile playmakers at safety, and Landry embodies those qualities.

10. Quentin Moses, DE, Georgia
Moses possesses impressive natural athleticism and continues to improve his size, strength and technique. He played basketball for the Bulldogs early in his collegiate career but has since turned his full focus to the gridiron. Moses played in a rotation early in his career but finally took over as a full-time starter once David Pollack moved on to the NFL (Bengals). In 2005, Moses had a breakout campaign with 44 tackles, 20½ tackles for loss and 11½ sacks. If he gets stronger versus the run while continuing to make a tremendous impact rushing the passer as a senior in 2006, Moses will earn himself a spot in the top half of the first round in next year's NFL draft.

11. Levi Brown, OT, Penn State
Brown began his career as a defensive tackle but moved to the offensive line as a redshirt freshman in 2003. He has been essentially a full-time starter since and will graduate with four years of starting experience. At 6-foot-5, 325 pounds, Brown has adequate mobility but still has room to improve in terms of his overall technique and foot quickness. Regardless whether it's on the left or right side, Brown projects as a starting offensive tackle in the NFL, which is why he ranks as one of the elite senior prospects early in the 2007 draft process.

12. Jeff Samardzija, WR, Notre Dame
Not heavily recruited out of high school, Samardzija has used his size, quickness, instincts, hands and toughness to overcome a lack of elite speed. Samardzija's draft stock is likely to slip once some of the supremely talented junior skills players get thrown into the mix, but another productive year like 2005 (77 catches, 1,249 yards, 15 TDs) could secure him a spot in the first round of next year's draft.


The following is an early list of the potential top prospects -- by position -- in the 2007 NFL draft class:


Quarterbacks: 1. Brady Quinn, Notre Dame; 2. Brian Brohm*, Louisville; 3. Drew Stanton, Michigan State; 4. Jordan Palmer, UTEP; 5. Kyle Wright*, Miami-Fla.; 6. Chad Henne*, Michigan; 7. Tyler Palko, Pittsburgh; 8. Troy Smith, Ohio State; 9. Trent Edwards, Stanford; 10. John Beck, BYU; 11. Chris Leak, Florida; 12. Sam Kellar, Arizona State.

Running backs; 1. Adrian Peterson*, Oklahoma; 2. Michael Bush, Louisville; 3. Kenny Irons, Auburn; 4. Marshawn Lynch*, California; 5. Kenneth Darby, Alabama; 6. Mike Hart*, Michigan; 7. Lorenzo Booker, Florida State; 8. Thomas Brown*, Georgia; 9. Tyrone Moss, Miami-Fla.; 10. Lynell Hamilton*, San Diego State; 11. DeShawn Wynn, Florida; 12. Brian Leonard (FB), Rutgers; 13. Darius Walker*, Notre Dame; 14. Courtney Lewis, Texas A&M; 15. Tony Hunt, Penn State.

Wide receivers: 1. Dwayne Jarrett*, USC; 2. Calvin Johnson*, Georgia Tech; 3. Ted Ginn*, Ohio State; 4. Jeff Samardzija, Notre Dame; 5. Jason Hill, Washington State; 6. Steve Breaston, Michigan; 7. Courtney Taylor, Auburn; 8. Robert Meachem*, Tennessee; 9. Early Doucet*, LSU; 10. Steve Smith, USC; 11. Lance Leggett*, Miami-Fla.; 12. Johnnie Lee Higgins, UTEP; 13. Todd Blythe*, Iowa State; 14. Paul Williams, Fresno State; 15. Andre Caldwell, Florida; 16. Jarrett Hicks, Texas Tech; 17. Dwayne Bowe, LSU; 18. Dorien Bryant*, Purdue; 19. Chansi Stuckey, Clemson; 20. David Clowney, Virginia Tech.

Tight ends: 1. Greg Olsen*, Miami-Fla.; 2. Zach Miller*, Arizona State; 3. Matt Spaeth, Minnesota; 4. Clark Harris, Rutgers; 5. Martrez Milner, Georgia; 6. Joe Newton, Oregon State; 7. Jonny Harline, BYU; 8. Jason Goode*, Maryland; 9. Ben Patrick, Delaware; 10. Matt Herian, Nebraska.

Offensive tackles: 1. Joe Thomas, Wisconsin; 2. Justin Blalock, Texas; 3. Sam Baker*, USC; 4. Levi Brown, Penn State; 5. Jake Long, Michigan; 6. Barry Richardson*, Clemson; 7. Kirk Barton*, Ohio State; 8. Doug Free, Northern Illinois; 9. Mike Jones, Iowa; 10. Aaron Sears, Tennessee; 11. Daniel Inman, Georgia; 12. Andrew Carnahan, Arizona State; 13. Ryan Harris, Notre Dame; 14. Andrew Cameron, California; 15. Mike Otto, Purdue.

Offensive guards: 1. Josh Beekham, Boston College; 2. Samson Satele, Hawaii; 3. Kasey Studdard, Texas; 4. Manuel Ramirez, Texas Tech; 5. Kirk Elder*, Texas A&M; 6. Brian Daniels, Colorado; 7. Will Arnold*, LSU; 8. Dan Mozes, West Virginia; 9. Ben Grubbs, Auburn; 10. George Batiste, Southern Miss.

Centers: 1. Kyle Young, Fresno State; 2. Ryan Kalil, USC; 3. John Sullivan, Notre Dame; 4. Anthony Wollschlager, Miami-Fla.; 5. David Ligon, Tennessee.

Defensive ends: 1. Gaines Adams, Clemson; 2. Lawrence Jackson*, USC; 3. Quentin Moses, Georgia; 4. Adam Carriker, Nebraska; 5. Baraka Atkins, Miami-Fla.; 6. Tim Crowder, Texas; 7. Victor Abiamira, Notre Dame; 8. LaMarr Woodley, Michigan; 9. Quentin Groves*, Auburn; 10. Dan Buzuin, Central Michigan; 11. Loren Howard, Arizona State; 12. Brian Robison, Texas; 13. Mkristo Bruce, Washington State; 14. Larry Birdine, Oklahoma; 15. Larry McSwain, UAB.

Defensive tackles: 1. Frank Okam*, Texas; 2. Quinn Pitcock, Ohio State; 3. Kareem Brown, Miami-Fla.; 4. Marcus Thomas, Florida; 5. Sedrick Ellis*, USC; 6. Justin Harrell, Tennessee; 7. Brandon Mebane, California; 8. Ray McDonald, Florida; 9. Red Bryant*, Texas A&M; 10. Derek Landri, Notre Dame; 11. Tank Tyler, NC State; 12. Carlton Powell*, Virginia Tech; 13. Jay Alford, Penn State; 14. Jeremy Clark, Alabama; 15. Marquay Love, Houston.

Inside linebackers: 1. Patrick Willis, Ole Miss; 2. H.B. Blades, Pittsburgh; 3. Ahmad Brooks**, Virginia; 4. Oscar Lua, USC; 5. Rufus Alexander, Oklahoma; 6. Brandon Siler*, Florida; 7. Anthony Waters, Clemson; 8. Desmond Bishop, California; 9. David Harris, Michigan; 10. Mike De'Andrea, Ohio State.

Outside linebackers: 1. Paul Posluszny, Penn State; 2. Xavier Adibi*, Virginia Tech; 3. Earl Everett, Florida; 4. Prescott Burgess, Michigan; 5. Brian Toal*, Boston College; 6. Dan Connor*, Penn State; 7. Juwan Simpson, Alabama; 8. Brian Smith, Missouri; 9. Stephen Nicholas, South Florida; 10. Zach Latimer, Oklahoma; 11. Dallas Sartz, Texas; 12. Tim Shaw, Penn State.

Cornerbacks: 1. Antoine Cason*, Arizona; 2. Roshaun Fellows*, Tennessee; 3. Leon Hall, Michigan; 4. Daymeion Hughes, California; 5. D.J. Wolfe*, Oklahoma; 6. Fred Bennett, South Carolina; 7. Ambrose Wooden*, Notre Dame; 8. Marcus McCauley, Fresno State; 9. Darrelle Revis*, Pittsburgh; 10. John Talley, Duke; 11. David Irons, Auburn; 12. Marquice Cole, Northwestern; 13. Ramzee Robinson, Alabama; 14. A.J. Davis, NC State; 15. Travarous Bain, Hampton.

Safeties: 1. LaRon Landry, LSU; 2. Brandon Meriweather, Miami-Fla.; 3. Michael Griffin, Texas; 4. Tom Zbikowski, Notre Dame; 5. Jonathan Hefney*, Tennessee; 6. Josh Pinkard*, USC; 7. Josh Gattis, Wake Forest; 8. Eric Weddle, Utah; 9. Aaron Rouse, Virginia Tech; 10. Brandon Mitchell, Ohio State; 11. J.D. Nelson, Oregon; 12. Sabby Piscitelli, Oregon State; 13. Tra Battle, Georgia; 14. Robert Herbert, Colorado State; 15. Willis Barringer, Michigan.

*underclassmen
**dismissed from team


http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insid...odd&id=2438563

TallySaint 05-09-2006 02:11 PM

QB Bryan Cupito - Minnesota




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TallySaint 05-09-2006 02:51 PM

JR LB Lawrence Timmons - Florida State



Sophomore Year (2005): Saw action in all 13 games this season...backup to Ernie Sims at strong side linebacker...ranked second on the team for tackles among players not in the starting lineup (35)...has blocked two punts, forced two fumbles, recovered a fumble, recorded three sacks and has six quarterback hurries on the season...is a force on special teams and has assumed the role of gunner which is usually assigned to defensive backs or receivers...saw action at defensive end when injuries took their toll at that position...had a career game in the ACC championship game when he recorded eight tackles, six solo, two quarterback sacks and two quarterback hurries...added two tackles and a sack in the Orange Bowl against Penn State...earned the top newcomer award on defense as voted on by the coaching staff following spring practice in 2005.

Freshman Year (2004): Played in all 12 games including the Seminoles' Gator Bowl victory over West Virginia...was one of only nine true freshman to earn playing time for Florida State during the season...recorded 12 tackles with at least one tackle coming in eight of the 12 games in which he played...second among the Seminole freshmen with his 12 tackles...Jae Thaxton led the freshmen with 19 tackles...career-high three tackles against UAB and two tackles against both Syracuse and Virginia...recorded his first career tackle for loss in the Seminoles' victory over Virginia.


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saintbuck 05-09-2006 02:57 PM

9. LaRon Landry, DS, LSU
Landry has been terrorizing opposing quarterbacks and ball carriers since showing up on Baton Rouge's campus as a freshman in 2003. Three years later and with far more experience under his belt, Landry should rank among the elite defensive prospects in the 2007 draft. Landry checks in at only 190 pounds, but he fills hard versus the run and hits like a linebacker. Landry shows as much range as any safety in college football and is a true ball hawk with nine career interceptions leading up to his senior campaign. The NFL is looking for versatile playmakers at safety, and Landry embodies those qualities.

If we didn't have 73 safety's, I would seriously look at this guy. He is gonna be one of the best pros to ever come out of LSU

saintswhodi 05-09-2006 02:59 PM

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9. LaRon Landry, DS, LSU
Landry has been terrorizing opposing quarterbacks and ball carriers since showing up on Baton Rouge's campus as a freshman in 2003. Three years later and with far more experience under his belt, Landry should rank among the elite defensive prospects in the 2007 draft. Landry checks in at only 190 pounds, but he fills hard versus the run and hits like a linebacker. Landry shows as much range as any safety in college football and is a true ball hawk with nine career interceptions leading up to his senior campaign. The NFL is looking for versatile playmakers at safety, and Landry embodies those qualities.

If we didn't have 73 safety's, I would seriously look at this guy. He is gonna be one of the best pros to ever come out of LSU

He's probably already number one on our draft board for next year.

wheelman 05-09-2006 03:00 PM

By this October, JaMarcus Russell will be added to that list.

TallySaint 05-09-2006 03:17 PM

Though Florida QB Chris Leak may be a decent prospect, he hasn't exactly been a fit for Meyer's scheme. Hot-shot signee Tim Tebow may be the Gator starter by season's end.

Time will tell.



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saintswhodi 05-09-2006 03:20 PM

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By this October, JaMarcus Russell will be added to that list.

Or Matt Flynn. 8)

wheelman 05-09-2006 03:35 PM

Either way, LSU is set.

gandhi1007 05-09-2006 03:46 PM

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By this October, JaMarcus Russell will be added to that list.

Or Matt Flynn. 8)

Or even Ryan Perriloux 8)

LSUJeremy 05-09-2006 04:24 PM

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By this October, JaMarcus Russell will be added to that list.

Or Matt Flynn. 8)

Or even Ryan Perriloux 8)

Perriloux's a RS Fr this year.

Out of LSU's WR's Craig Davis is probably the best and they mention Doucet and Bowe ahead of him.

Clearly, though, we'll be trading up to draft Landry.

saintswhodi 05-09-2006 04:27 PM

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By this October, JaMarcus Russell will be added to that list.

Or Matt Flynn. 8)

Or even Ryan Perriloux 8)

Perriloux prob won't see the field this year. The next three years are all his, if Russell and Flynn go pro.

hagan714 05-09-2006 04:35 PM

HAVE TO READ UP ON THIER PERSONAL LIVES FIRST, THEN GPA IN THEIR MAJORS AND CHECK THE RAP SHEETS, ECT.

papz 05-09-2006 04:38 PM

Stanton > Quinn.

I like Cupito but let's see how he performs w/o Maroney. Maroney helped out his stats big time last year... let's see how the Gophers hang relying more on his arm. He could be a sleeper. ASU's Kellar is better than Walters... he's going to explode this year. Those WAC and MAC quarterbacks are good also... surprised none of them are getting any recognition... watch out for Hiller to name one.

jrmllb 05-09-2006 06:07 PM

Most likely Russel goes pro if he has a good year and starts...and then Flynn takes over for one year or vice versa...I think Perriloux ends of with two years of starting at qb

saintswhodi 05-09-2006 06:08 PM

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Most likely Russel goes pro if he has a good year and starts...and then Flynn takes over for one year or vice versa...I think Perriloux ends of with two years of starting at qb

Could be.

pakowitz 05-09-2006 07:49 PM

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Most likely Russel goes pro if he has a good year and starts...and then Flynn takes over for one year or vice versa...I think Perriloux ends of with two years of starting at qb


if russell goes pro... i doubt perilloux will be flynns backup....

LSUJeremy 05-09-2006 08:05 PM

Perilloux still isn't ready to beat Flynn out. If you saw the Peach Bowl you saw Flynn not only make plays, but he managed the game really well.

I also think it's Russell this year.
Flynn as a Sr. '07
Perilloux for two years. '08-'09

gandhi1007 05-09-2006 08:27 PM

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Perilloux still isn't ready to beat Flynn out. If you saw the Peach Bowl you saw Flynn not only make plays, but he managed the game really well.

I also think it's Russell this year.
Flynn as a Sr. '07
Perilloux for two years. '08-'09

Here's the deal... With everyone going nuts about Flynn after the Peach Bowl game, everyone kinda' forgot how mediocre his previous performances were. You know stepping in to blowout ball games & immediately giving up a couple of picks. I watched the kid in High School in Texas as my in laws live there & in the games at LSU. Sometimes he can look like John Elway, but alot of times he looks more like John Fourcade. You never know what to expect out of him. Don't let that one Peach Bowl game set your mind on the guy. Hell, even Aaron Brooks had some awesome games, but it was the "Jeckyl & Hyde" thing that killed him (More Hyde than Jeckyl). Jamarcus should & will start this year. After Jamarcus goes pro... don't count on Flynn beating Perriloux out. Perriloux is the real deal & he wants in the ball game.

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if russell goes pro... i doubt perilloux will be flynns backup....
I'm definately with you on this one Pak. Perriloux will beat Flynn out given the chance or transfer to Texas & kick a**.

LSUJeremy 05-09-2006 08:39 PM

Flynn definitely hasn't had enough game experience to decide whether or not he's consistent enough to be successful at the college level, but I do know he works.

Two years ago Saban wanted to, and tried to start Russell over Randall. Problem was, Russell wasn't putting enough in to the preparation leading up to the game, and was pissing Saban off. That went on all season.

In the weeks leading up to the Capital One Bowl it kept coming out at the practices how well Flynn was doing. In that game Flynn came off the bench first to replace Randall. He was ineffective, Russell came in, and everyone probably knows how it all worked out.

Flynn played really well in mop-up duty last year, and his game against Miami was about as good as it can get. He did have the benefit of LSU's OL finally being healthy along with a healthy Addai.

With those three LSU might have the most talent at QB in the country, and more than the trio of Davey, Nall, and Booty (all of whom are either in the NFL - Nall & Davey - , or spent time in the NFL - Booty).

I think if Perilloux is to beat out Flynn he'll have to be really, really good cause Flynn's not too bad.

saintswhodi 05-09-2006 08:50 PM

I don't think Flynn is bad either. How much real game time has he actually gotten? And Miami ain't too shabby and he washed them up. don't care about turnovers in mop up duty, I care what he did when he started bell to bell against Miami. What more do you judge him on than his last performance? And there were NUMEROUS games last year was Jamarcus was just coasting, playing very bad, and then when it was desperate decided to play. Kinda Brooks like if anyone was. Flynn should be given a clean shot to start, and if he beats Jamarcus out, so be it. I like his athleticism better anyway. But trying to diss the guy on some mop up games over him playing a full BOWL game and excelling isn't gonna work for me. LET'S GO MATT!!!!! :D

gandhi1007 05-09-2006 08:58 PM

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I think if Perilloux is to beat out Flynn he'll have to be really, really good cause Flynn's not too bad.

That's the point I believe Pak & I were trying to make to you. This guy was the National High School Player of the Year & USA Today's Offensive Player of the Year his Senior year in High School. He's big, fast, & athletic with a strong arm and uncanny accuracy. Here's a little info. on the guy..........

OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR

Ryan Perrilloux

Personal stats: 6-3, 223 pounds, quarterback, East St. John (Reserve, La.)

By the numbers: Completed 225 of 342 passes for 3,546 yards and 30 touchdowns and rushed for 1,460 yards and 37 TDs this season. Totaled 12,715 yards and 157 TDs in four seasons.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/preps...rs-coach_x.htm

There is a reason every major college program in the country wanted this guy, & it's the same reason we red-shirted him. He's the real deal & we here at LSU would like to give him as many years of playing time as possible. :wink:

LSUJeremy 05-09-2006 08:58 PM

Don't forget, with Russell, he played probably the second half the season after injuring his wrist against Florida, including the Bama win in OT. Along with shoulder surgery he had wrist surgery, so he was playing with a pretty bad wrist.

The offense had a lot of problems last year - lots of injuries on the OL, Addai with a bad ankle most of the year; WR's dropped a LOT of balls. Bowe actually had eye surgery recently, and it's possible some of his drops were because of that problem.

LSU also had a ridiculously bad turnover ratio finishing -9. No other team that finished in the top 10 was that bad.

There were a lot of variables that make judging the QB's on last year difficult. It's good to have that much talent.

pakowitz 05-09-2006 09:11 PM

yea i watched the peach bowl.. i was there... great seats might i add... but anyway... you should know that they simplified the offense for flynn too.... ur the LSU expert... u of all people should know that jer...

gandhi1007 05-09-2006 09:11 PM

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But trying to diss the guy on some mop up games over him playing a full BOWL game and excelling isn't gonna work for me. LET'S GO MATT!!!!! :D

Is this the same Whodi that was saying not to be so big on Mario Williams, because he had a couple of big games this year but didn't show up for the others? :D LOL

saintswhodi 05-09-2006 09:18 PM

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But trying to diss the guy on some mop up games over him playing a full BOWL game and excelling isn't gonna work for me. LET'S GO MATT!!!!! :D

Is this the same Whodi that was saying not to be so big on Mario Williams, because he had a couple of big games this year but didn't show up for the others? :D LOL

Wait, are we confusing a big game in a BOWL game with big games against Middle Tennessee State during the season? Me thinks so. Tighten up your game ghandi, that one was off. lol

saintswhodi 05-09-2006 09:27 PM

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yea i watched the peach bowl.. i was there... great seats might i add... but anyway... you should know that they simplified the offense for flynn too.... ur the LSU expert... u of all people should know that jer...

Why would they simplify the offense for a guy that has been there what, 3 years now? At least two. And even if they did, you are telling me that with a month for the Miami defense to prepare, he was still able to excel like that in a "simplified" offense? Start him.

pakowitz 05-09-2006 09:37 PM

i dont know y they did it.. but it was reported all over the place....

LSUJeremy 05-09-2006 09:39 PM

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yea i watched the peach bowl.. i was there... great seats might i add... but anyway... you should know that they simplified the offense for flynn too.... ur the LSU expert... u of all people should know that jer...

Wish I coulda made that trip. Never thought they'd give that kind of a*skicking (during and after the game).

I don't remember seeing anything about them simplifying the O, though. I thought it was pretty normal, but with a few added wrinkles - like Skyler Green lining up at center. Really, I thought Fisher did a little more with the offense in that game.

gandhi1007 05-09-2006 09:41 PM

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Be careful what you wish for Whodi? He was definately ON in the Peach Bowl. I'll agree 100% on that, but I've watched this guy play since High School. When he's off, he's Aaron Brooks-Todd Bouman OFF. Also, Jamarcus had to play with Joe Addai & key offensive linemen missing in his "bad" games this year. Not to mention, our receivers had an a**load of dropped balls that hit them square in the chest in those games (Tenn., Arizona State, Auburn, & Georgia) All were healthy & quite hyped after losing to Georgia & going into the Peach Bowl. And I'll also say our receivers didn't drop much in that game, either. Not to say Jamarcus is better. They both have their assets. Jamarcus has a better arm. Matt is more mobile. To be honest with you though, after watching all the practices & the "Purple & Gold" game last year, I think Perriloux will be better than both.

LSUJeremy 05-09-2006 09:57 PM

Regardless of who is the starter this year and next, the fact that you can argue that one is better than the other when all three will end up in the NFL is a great problem to have. If you switch gears to the Saints situation at QB the last couple years...well, everyone knows that story.

Having that much talent at QB for a consistent top 10 team with a roster full of future NFL players, it doesn't matter who the starter is. LSU's gonna win a lot of games.

saintswhodi 05-09-2006 10:01 PM

First, I wanna say i'm with Jeremy in not hearing anything about them simplifying the O for Flynn. Not once did I hear that.

I agree with you on Perrilloux ghandi. I am all over that kids bandwagon. And look at you making AB lover type excuses for Jamarcus. lol I like that, but ain't buying it. I saw just about every LSU game last year, except the games against the scrub teams, and there were game when JaMarcus just looked awful, then he'd hit his stride. It wasn't all about drops and Addai. Now, I like Jamarcus, I have nothing against him, but Flynn gives us more options. And seriously, how many starts does Flynn have to be compared to Brooks or Bouman? That's pretty wrong to call a guy that after he sits for 3 and a half quarters and plays in mop up duty. In a FULL game in a BOWL game, he was awesome. I guess you could take snippets of anyone's career and make them look like Brooks-Bouman. Doesn't make it right.

LSUJeremy 05-09-2006 10:12 PM

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First, I wanna say i'm with Jeremy in not hearing anything about them simplifying the O for Flynn. Not once did I hear that.

I posted over on the Lair asking if anyone heard about or thought we had simplified the offense. I've started an argument over there.

People are pointing to the fact that we rushed for over 200yds and didn't have to do too much with the way the offense was working. Others are pointing that we used different packages because of Flynn's mobility vs Russells.

I know I saw some things in the game (Green at QB) that I'd never seen. I know we did some things differently with Flynn rolling out.

What I mainly know, is that we took the #1 rated defense in the country and beat them like they stole something from us. It was like televised jailhouse sex, and the "U" was LSU's bit*h.

I hate Miami. I'll stop now...

LSUJeremy 05-09-2006 10:17 PM

Pak was right. I forgot about this article. They simplified it to take the pressure off Flynn starting against such a good D.

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/...80301/0/LIVING

saintswhodi 05-09-2006 10:24 PM

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Pak was right. I forgot about this article. They simplified it to take the pressure off Flynn starting against such a good D.

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/...80301/0/LIVING

That article does 100% back up what Pak was saying, from Les Miles' mouth. Good memory. As far as the rest of that crap, start Perrilloux!!!! :P

gandhi1007 05-10-2006 12:18 AM

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbc ... 1/0/LIVING

Now isn't that pretty much what I said when I wrote this? :D LOL


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Also, Jamarcus had to play with Joe Addai & key offensive linemen missing in his "bad" games this year. Not to mention, our receivers had an a**load of dropped balls that hit them square in the chest in those games. All were healthy & quite hyped after losing to Georgia & going into the Peach Bowl. And I'll also say our receivers didn't drop much in that game, either. Not to say Jamarcus is better. They both have their assets. Jamarcus has a better arm. Matt is more mobile. To be honest with you though, after watching all the practices & the "Purple & Gold" game last year, I think Perriloux will be better than both.

TallySaint 05-10-2006 08:30 AM

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Clearly, though, we'll be trading up to draft Landry.

Clearly? Huh?






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zachsaints52 05-10-2006 08:50 AM

I think whoever gets Bush from Lousiville is getting a deal. Watching him play is like watching a big body doing moves of smaller guys. I can't wait to watch Lousville play next year, because I think they are returning their QB back to, but I am not for sure.

saintswhodi 05-10-2006 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by gandhi1007
http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbc ... 1/0/LIVING

Now isn't that pretty much what I said when I wrote this? :D LOL


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Also, Jamarcus had to play with Joe Addai & key offensive linemen missing in his "bad" games this year. Not to mention, our receivers had an a**load of dropped balls that hit them square in the chest in those games. All were healthy & quite hyped after losing to Georgia & going into the Peach Bowl. And I'll also say our receivers didn't drop much in that game, either. Not to say Jamarcus is better. They both have their assets. Jamarcus has a better arm. Matt is more mobile. To be honest with you though, after watching all the practices & the "Purple & Gold" game last year, I think Perriloux will be better than both.

I recall writers making these same excuses for Brooks too. Now that I read back, it seems this guy has a bias towards Russell, and played it up fully. So there. Start Perrilloux!!!!!!!!! :wink:

BrooksMustGo 05-10-2006 10:17 AM

Brady Quinn is an interesting prospect, but the best candidate for the next draft will have to come out early.

Adrian Peterson out of Oklahoma really is the second coming of Jim Brown. He's the most dominant player in the college game and really a once in a lifetime player.


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