Rookie WR Defies Scouts, LB Nattiel, Etc...

LSUJeremy · 05-19-2006, 03:59 PM

Y'all might be getting a little ahead of yourselves on Haas. Let's wait and see what he does with pads on against veteran NFL players.

WHODATNJ · 05-19-2006, 04:30 PM

They dont just give the Biletnikoff Award away. Some recievers that have recieved it over the past ten years: Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss, Terry Glenn, Antonio Bryant. Of corse there have been a few that never amounted to anything more than returning kicks and punts. But I belive we picked a real winner. A guy that wants to play football and knows he has to earn a position on this team. Some guys get drafted and think because they had a decent college career they think they deserve a spot on the roster. I think there should be a pay chart simular to the military in the NFL. You start out with a crappy salery and then you earn your stripes and then your pay increases. Just think if NFL players played with the intensity of college players hoping to make millions of dollars a year.

saintswhodi · 05-19-2006, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by LSUJeremy

Y'all might be getting a little ahead of yourselves on Haas. Let's wait and see what he does with pads on against veteran NFL players.

Amen.

D_it_up · 05-19-2006, 04:34 PM

Y'all might be getting a little ahead of yourselves on Haas. Let's wait and see what he does with pads on against veteran NFL players.

You're absolutely right, Jeremy. However, of all of the receivers on our roster. He's got the biggest upside. If he is anything like players we've seen in the past (Eric Martin, Ed McCaffrey, Ricky Proehl, etc..), that means you can throw the kitchen sink at him and he'll bring it down. You can't help but like the guy for his intelligence and ability to play the game. He's the Peter LaFleur of the Saints. A true underdog story.

saintswhodi · 05-19-2006, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by WHODATNJ

They dont just give the Biletnikoff Award away. Some recievers that have recieved it over the past ten years: Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss, Terry Glenn, Antonio Bryant. Of corse there have been a few that never amounted to anything more than returning kicks and punts. But I belive we picked a real winner. A guy that wants to play football and knows he has to earn a position on this team. Some guys get drafted and think because they had a decent college career they think they deserve a spot on the roster. I think there should be a pay chart simular to the military in the NFL. You start out with a crappy salery and then you earn your stripes and then your pay increases. Just think if NFL players played with the intensity of college players hoping to make millions of dollars a year.

They don't just give the Heisman away either, yet there have been SEVERAL busts who have gotten it(Eric Crouch, Chris Weinke, Ron Dayne, Danny Weurffel), and guys who have won it who have not even gotten a chance in the NFL(Charlie Ward, Jason White). Just saying, let the guy do something before we call him Abramowicz and Eric Martin and such. Those names mean a lot to me. And people are casually throwing them around over a 6th round pick. I am just as excited to see what he can do, but let's let him DO IT first.

papz · 05-19-2006, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by D_it_up2

However, of all of the receivers on our roster. He's got the biggest upside.

This is based on... his college numbers? Heck I thought Talman Gardner has the biggest upside of all our receivers a couple of seasons ago and he's not even in the NFL anymore. I'm not saying he can't be the next yadda yadda, but let's be a little realistic here. If he becomes a solid number 4 guy, I'll be more than happy... especially coming from a 6th round draft pick.

Continuing with sw's list... Tommy Frazier, Andre Ware, Lawerence Phillips... we can really go on forever with this.

LSUJeremy · 05-19-2006, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by D_it_up2

Y'all might be getting a little ahead of yourselves on Haas. Let's wait and see what he does with pads on against veteran NFL players.

You're absolutely right, Jeremy. However, of all of the receivers on our roster. He's got the biggest upside. If he is anything like players we've seen in the past (Eric Martin, Ed McCaffrey, Ricky Proehl, etc..), that means you can throw the kitchen sink at him and he'll bring it down. You can't help but like the guy for his intelligence and ability to play the game. He's the Peter LaFleur of the Saints. A true underdog story.

I like all of the intangibles I've read about Haas, but I think a lot of players can have those things said about them. He'll come in and work hard, but he's moved up a level in talent and we have to see how he does against NFL DB's.

Don't give up on Devery, though. He's a quiet, hard working guy that didn't play WR till his JR year at LSU. He's still learning.

hagan714 · 05-19-2006, 06:38 PM

4.56 in shorts okay is not head turning but it is not slow. Put pads on him and he will still be running 4.6 range for the entire 60 minutes. Not many WR in the NFL can do that. I want 40 times in pads next year.

MatthewT · 05-20-2006, 08:03 AM

hagan714 - I totally agree with that. That is why watching game film is so much more important for projecting a guys NFL future, and not the NFL combine. Very great point for you!

AllSaints · 05-20-2006, 01:16 PM

i think hass is our #3 WR without a question

05-19-2006, 03:59 PM	#11
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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by LSUJeremy Y'all might be getting a little ahead of yourselves on Haas. Let's wait and see what he does with pads on against veteran NFL players. Amen.

05-19-2006, 04:57 PM	#15
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by WHODATNJ They dont just give the Biletnikoff Award away. Some recievers that have recieved it over the past ten years: Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss, Terry Glenn, Antonio Bryant. Of corse there have been a few that never amounted to anything more than returning kicks and punts. But I belive we picked a real winner. A guy that wants to play football and knows he has to earn a position on this team. Some guys get drafted and think because they had a decent college career they think they deserve a spot on the roster. I think there should be a pay chart simular to the military in the NFL. You start out with a crappy salery and then you earn your stripes and then your pay increases. Just think if NFL players played with the intensity of college players hoping to make millions of dollars a year. They don't just give the Heisman away either, yet there have been SEVERAL busts who have gotten it(Eric Crouch, Chris Weinke, Ron Dayne, Danny Weurffel), and guys who have won it who have not even gotten a chance in the NFL(Charlie Ward, Jason White). Just saying, let the guy do something before we call him Abramowicz and Eric Martin and such. Those names mean a lot to me. And people are casually throwing them around over a 6th round pick. I am just as excited to see what he can do, but let's let him DO IT first.

05-19-2006, 05:13 PM	#16
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Originally Posted by D_it_up2 However, of all of the receivers on our roster. He's got the biggest upside. This is based on... his college numbers? Heck I thought Talman Gardner has the biggest upside of all our receivers a couple of seasons ago and he's not even in the NFL anymore. I'm not saying he can't be the next yadda yadda, but let's be a little realistic here. If he becomes a solid number 4 guy, I'll be more than happy... especially coming from a 6th round draft pick. Continuing with sw's list... Tommy Frazier, Andre Ware, Lawerence Phillips... we can really go on forever with this.

05-19-2006, 05:38 PM	#17
LSUJeremy 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 472	Originally Posted by D_it_up2 Y'all might be getting a little ahead of yourselves on Haas. Let's wait and see what he does with pads on against veteran NFL players. You're absolutely right, Jeremy. However, of all of the receivers on our roster. He's got the biggest upside. If he is anything like players we've seen in the past (Eric Martin, Ed McCaffrey, Ricky Proehl, etc..), that means you can throw the kitchen sink at him and he'll bring it down. You can't help but like the guy for his intelligence and ability to play the game. He's the Peter LaFleur of the Saints. A true underdog story. I like all of the intangibles I've read about Haas, but I think a lot of players can have those things said about them. He'll come in and work hard, but he's moved up a level in talent and we have to see how he does against NFL DB's. Don't give up on Devery, though. He's a quiet, hard working guy that didn't play WR till his JR year at LSU. He's still learning.
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WHODATNJ 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lafayette Posts: 109	They dont just give the Biletnikoff Award away. Some recievers that have recieved it over the past ten years: Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss, Terry Glenn, Antonio Bryant. Of corse there have been a few that never amounted to anything more than returning kicks and punts. But I belive we picked a real winner. A guy that wants to play football and knows he has to earn a position on this team. Some guys get drafted and think because they had a decent college career they think they deserve a spot on the roster. I think there should be a pay chart simular to the military in the NFL. You start out with a crappy salery and then you earn your stripes and then your pay increases. Just think if NFL players played with the intensity of college players hoping to make millions of dollars a year.

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D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Y'all might be getting a little ahead of yourselves on Haas. Let's wait and see what he does with pads on against veteran NFL players. You're absolutely right, Jeremy. However, of all of the receivers on our roster. He's got the biggest upside. If he is anything like players we've seen in the past (Eric Martin, Ed McCaffrey, Ricky Proehl, etc..), that means you can throw the kitchen sink at him and he'll bring it down. You can't help but like the guy for his intelligence and ability to play the game. He's the Peter LaFleur of the Saints. A true underdog story.

05-19-2006, 06:38 PM	#18
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	4.56 in shorts okay is not head turning but it is not slow. Put pads on him and he will still be running 4.6 range for the entire 60 minutes. Not many WR in the NFL can do that. I want 40 times in pads next year.

05-20-2006, 08:03 AM	#19
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	hagan714 - I totally agree with that. That is why watching game film is so much more important for projecting a guys NFL future, and not the NFL combine. Very great point for you!

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AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	i think hass is our #3 WR without a question