A Few Questions

dannymac909 · 05-22-2006, 12:37 AM

Hi everyone, I haven't posted in a while but I check the site all the time and am very excited about the upcoming season. I have a couple of questions I was hoping to get some feedback on.

1. I was listening to Sirius NFL the other day and they were ranking the units as a whole in every division example(AFC North 1.Pittsburgh Defense, #2 Cincinnati Offense, #3 Pittsburgh Defense, #4
Baltimore Defense and so on.) They did this for every division but I did not get to hear the NFC South so I was curious what you guys thought. I tried to make my own rankings but the teams are so close to me that I had trouble coming up with an order that I could stick by. I think Carolina Defense would be the #1 unit in the NFC South but after that it get tough. What do you think.

2. Everyone seems worried about the LB situation which is questionable at best but the CB's scare me. Mckenzie is our #1 but he plays more like a good 2 and Fred Thomas plays like an average starter. It does not seem that we have any quality depth at this position. The Saints rarely address this position and during the season it is a glaring weakness. I have hope that Anwar Phillips may develop in the future but I really think the draft is the way to go for corners because the ones in free agency every year get overpaid.

By the way I get all my Saints news from this site as it is as knowledgable as any sports message board I have visited.

BoudinSandwich · 05-22-2006, 03:57 AM

This is actually quite interesting and somewhat hard to do. Just for kicks, here are my rankings:

1) Carolina Defense
2) New Orleans Offense (Where the Saints SHOULD rank THIS season IF they reach their potential.)
3) Carolina Offense
4) Atlanta Defense
5) Atlanta Offense
6) New Orleans Defense
7) Tampa Bay Defense
8) Tampa Bay Offense

I know I have Carolina's offense ranked somewhat high, but remember that they DID make the playoffs. Their unit, when healthy, is pretty tough to stop.

saintswhodi · 05-22-2006, 08:18 AM

Wait, you have our defense before Tampa's? Is that a misprint? When did that happen? Is age a factor going into determining something like that, as in they have to get worse at some point? I'm just wondering Oldies. Until we do something on the field, and with 47 safeties and weaknesses at D-line, LB and CB, I just can't see our D being better than Tampa's.

papz · 05-22-2006, 02:15 PM

http://www.blackandgold.net/site/ind...wtopic&t=13530 Thread on the South's D.

On the corner situation... it could have all been solved had we drafted Williams in the second this year but oh well. One day, we'll draft a corner again... that will be better than Alex Molden.

saintswhodi · 05-22-2006, 02:27 PM

http://www.blackandgold.net/site/index. ... ic&t=13530 Thread on the South's D.

Huh? We talks about whats we wants, wheres we wants. Capice? :P

BoudinSandwich · 05-22-2006, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

Wait, you have our defense before Tampa's? Is that a misprint? When did that happen? Is age a factor going into determining something like that, as in they have to get worse at some point? I'm just wondering Oldies. Until we do something on the field, and with 47 safeties and weaknesses at D-line, LB and CB, I just can't see our D being better than Tampa's.

I just don't think Tampa's defense is as good as they once were. I think our defense is going to improve now that we have Payton as a coach. I remember watching games last season and seeing our defense just "go through the motions." I think if the new coach implements any desire what-so-ever into our defense, we'll do much better.

That and I'm a bit drunk. Haha! I still can type, though.

saintswhodi · 05-22-2006, 05:41 PM

[quote="OldiesDJ"]

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

Wait, you have our defense before Tampa's? Is that a misprint? When did that happen? Is age a factor going into determining something like that, as in they have to get worse at some point? I'm just wondering Oldies. Until we do something on the field, and with 47 safeties and weaknesses at D-line, LB and CB, I just can't see our D being better than Tampa's.

I just don't think Tampa's defense is as good as they once were. I think our defense is going to improve now that we have Payton as a coach. I remember watching games last season and seeing our defense just "go through the motions." I think if the new coach implements any desire what-so-ever into our defense, we'll do much better.

That and I'm a bit drunk. Haha! I still can type, though.[/quote]

Now THAT I can believe. :P

saintbuck · 05-22-2006, 05:44 PM

I wish i was a bit drunk right now, only 3 days left offshore, then its on.

05-22-2006, 12:37 AM	#1
dannymac909 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 29	A Few Questions Hi everyone, I haven't posted in a while but I check the site all the time and am very excited about the upcoming season. I have a couple of questions I was hoping to get some feedback on. 1. I was listening to Sirius NFL the other day and they were ranking the units as a whole in every division example(AFC North 1.Pittsburgh Defense, #2 Cincinnati Offense, #3 Pittsburgh Defense, #4 Baltimore Defense and so on.) They did this for every division but I did not get to hear the NFC South so I was curious what you guys thought. I tried to make my own rankings but the teams are so close to me that I had trouble coming up with an order that I could stick by. I think Carolina Defense would be the #1 unit in the NFC South but after that it get tough. What do you think. 2. Everyone seems worried about the LB situation which is questionable at best but the CB's scare me. Mckenzie is our #1 but he plays more like a good 2 and Fred Thomas plays like an average starter. It does not seem that we have any quality depth at this position. The Saints rarely address this position and during the season it is a glaring weakness. I have hope that Anwar Phillips may develop in the future but I really think the draft is the way to go for corners because the ones in free agency every year get overpaid. By the way I get all my Saints news from this site as it is as knowledgable as any sports message board I have visited.
dannymac909 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 29

05-22-2006, 04:46 PM	#6
BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	Originally Posted by saintswhodi Wait, you have our defense before Tampa's? Is that a misprint? When did that happen? Is age a factor going into determining something like that, as in they have to get worse at some point? I'm just wondering Oldies. Until we do something on the field, and with 47 safeties and weaknesses at D-line, LB and CB, I just can't see our D being better than Tampa's. I just don't think Tampa's defense is as good as they once were. I think our defense is going to improve now that we have Payton as a coach. I remember watching games last season and seeing our defense just "go through the motions." I think if the new coach implements any desire what-so-ever into our defense, we'll do much better. That and I'm a bit drunk. Haha! I still can type, though.

05-22-2006, 05:41 PM	#7
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	[quote="OldiesDJ"] Originally Posted by saintswhodi Wait, you have our defense before Tampa's? Is that a misprint? When did that happen? Is age a factor going into determining something like that, as in they have to get worse at some point? I'm just wondering Oldies. Until we do something on the field, and with 47 safeties and weaknesses at D-line, LB and CB, I just can't see our D being better than Tampa's. I just don't think Tampa's defense is as good as they once were. I think our defense is going to improve now that we have Payton as a coach. I remember watching games last season and seeing our defense just "go through the motions." I think if the new coach implements any desire what-so-ever into our defense, we'll do much better. That and I'm a bit drunk. Haha! I still can type, though.[/quote] Now THAT I can believe. :P

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05-22-2006, 03:57 AM	#2
BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	RE: A Few Questions This is actually quite interesting and somewhat hard to do. Just for kicks, here are my rankings: 1) Carolina Defense 2) New Orleans Offense (Where the Saints SHOULD rank THIS season IF they reach their potential.) 3) Carolina Offense 4) Atlanta Defense 5) Atlanta Offense 6) New Orleans Defense 7) Tampa Bay Defense 8) Tampa Bay Offense I know I have Carolina's offense ranked somewhat high, but remember that they DID make the playoffs. Their unit, when healthy, is pretty tough to stop.

05-22-2006, 08:18 AM	#3
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Wait, you have our defense before Tampa's? Is that a misprint? When did that happen? Is age a factor going into determining something like that, as in they have to get worse at some point? I'm just wondering Oldies. Until we do something on the field, and with 47 safeties and weaknesses at D-line, LB and CB, I just can't see our D being better than Tampa's.

05-22-2006, 02:15 PM	#4
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,737	http://www.blackandgold.net/site/ind...wtopic&t=13530 Thread on the South's D. On the corner situation... it could have all been solved had we drafted Williams in the second this year but oh well. One day, we'll draft a corner again... that will be better than Alex Molden.

05-22-2006, 02:27 PM	#5
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	http://www.blackandgold.net/site/index. ... ic&t=13530 Thread on the South's D. Huh? We talks about whats we wants, wheres we wants. Capice? :P

05-22-2006, 05:44 PM	#8
saintbuck 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mamou, LA. Posts: 313	I wish i was a bit drunk right now, only 3 days left offshore, then its on.