Raiders QB Picture Still Up in the Air

TallySaint · 05-22-2006, 04:21 PM

Raiders QB picture still up in the air

It's not too early for trio to start jockeying for position
By Bill Soliday 5-6-06

ALAMEDA ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â€Â Given his budding relationship with Paris Hilton, you tend to fear for Matt Leinart as much as you fear him.

And yet, given the draft-day circumstances the Oakland Raiders were in a week ago, you'd think fear would have been on the minds of team quarterbacks Aaron Brooks, Marques Tuiasosopo and Andrew Walter.

As it turns out, that couldn't have been much further from how it actually was. While the world waited for the Raiders to jump on the USC quarterback with the seventh pick of the draft:

- Brooks was in Arizona playing golf and stifling a yawn.

- Walter was at Lake Tahoe with his girlfriend having dinner.

- Tuiasosopo was merely curious, then relieved.

"I said, 'OK, well, I guess I don't have to worry about anything else except for what I need to do,'" said Tuiasosopo, who would have promptly been an ex-Raider if Oakland had selected Leinart instead of Texas safety Michael Huff with that pick."

And so ...

"We have a pretty good defensive player," he finally decided, letting out a laugh.

In the end, Oakland decided it didn't need more quarterbacks. Ho hum.

Brooks couldn't be bothered sneaking peeks at the draft. He was too busy shooting a 94 on the TPC of Scottsdale golf course to worry about some hotshot rookie usurping his status as a Raider, whatever that may be.

"I could care less," Brooks said. "It's not my decision to make ... or for me to worry about. I felt more comfortable that they didn't, but even with them drafting a first-round quarterback, I don't think it would have been set in stone ... him having the job."

Walter, taken by Oakland in the third round a year ago, went for parental wisdom when the "L" word came up.

"My dad said it best," he said. "I don't know (where it came from), but he said the Raiders organization had me rated the top quarterback on their board (last year), and if that's true, then if I was healthy, why would they draft a quarterback this year?

"I was watching, but I wasn't stressing out too much. But you still never know until you know. So after the pick came and went, there was affirmation. Time to get to business."

Ah yes, the business of deciding just who is going to be the Oakland starting quarterback in 2006 ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â€Â Brooks, Walter or Tuiasosopo? Nobody seems to be in a hurry to say.

Or to proclaim victory.

"I come in thinking I'm going to have to compete anyway," Brooks said. "Nothing is given."

For the record, at Friday's Day 1 of minicamp, when the first unit took the field, Brooks was behind center Jake Grove. Tuiasosopo was second up, followed by Walter.

Coach Art Shell hasn't hauled out his chisel or looked for the stone to register the proclamation.

"That's where we are today," Shell said. "The last camp it was different. It might be different next time."

One thing Shell did admit to was he would like to go into training camp in July with a pretty solid idea of his pecking order.

"I think it will take care of itself," he said.

Ask Walter who the favorite is and he shrugs.

"I don't know," he said. "I guess time will tell. Personally, I'd love to get a shot, but the bottom line is camp will be key."

Tuiasosopo agreed whoever plays best will start, and because this is the final year of his contract, his time to swoop in is now.

"From everything I've heard, coach has said it'll be open competition," he said. "That's all I need."

Tuiasosopo got a boost not only when the Raiders passed on Leinart but also when the team did not trade him to Cleveland, a recent rumor.

"There were definitely some things going on," Tuiasosopo said. "But I'm here, and that's what matters. They still wanted me here for another year. That makes me happy.

"I'm ready to do this. No question, this is kind of a telltale year. Either I'll be here, hopefully for a long time, or I'll probably be somewhere else.

"To me, it's a win-win (situation). It feels so good. The last couple of years, whatever they said, I just knew Kerry (Collins) was going to be the guy. That's fine, but I feel good I've got a chance to compete. I'm fired up."

He has the fire. Brooks says he has energy and some fire himself since, as he puts it, "the league and the media have been trying to wash me away for years." Walter, recovered from a rookie groin injury, has his health and a disarming aura of calm.

Stay tuned.

8)

TallySaint · 05-22-2006, 04:23 PM

http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_3792690

LKelley67 · 05-22-2006, 05:02 PM

I told myself I wouldn't start anymore Leon threads. Sometimes response is too much to hold off though...

Can't ya just see him slouched back in a chair, head cocked back, smiling...

Then unwittingly, he proclaims his whole approach to football in four words...

I COULD CARE LESS

He was careless indeed. They didn't call him Fumbles the Clown for nuttin'!

Even if we hadn't got such a great quarterback leader type like Brees I would have been dancing just to not have to cope with that crap anymore.

papz · 05-22-2006, 05:09 PM

I've always been a real big Tui fan... I thought he was going to be the second coming of Gannon. He needs to go to Gruden's offense. I'm pretty sure AB is going to be the starter over there with they money they're going to pay him. No point of not starting him if you dished out all that dough.

One very interesting question though...

If Brooks succeeds in Oakland, was it more of Haslett's fault we sucked so bad, Aaron's, or equal? Would you view Brooks lack of success here any less?

saintswhodi · 05-22-2006, 05:17 PM

I can only go by what Brooks did here, and for me, he did not put in the work to improve himself while he was HERE. You hear of QBs going into the offseason working with their wideouts, especially new ones, on their own time to develop chemistry with them. Anyone ever heard that about AB? And the fact the he NEVER, in any game I saw, studied film on the game KILLED me. You sit back and watch any QB, even Manning and Brady, and they wanna see film during the game evn when things are going well. Now Haz gets his share of blame, for coddling Brooks. If someone just handed me a multi million dollar job with no competitionand no repercussions for constant screw up, I might be a little lax too. But some of that falls on a player's personal will to excel. Brooks never showed that here. Maybe it will surface in Oakland, but I doubt it. He;s off playing golf while he should be getting Porter and Moss together and planning a super explosive passing attack.

LSUJeremy · 05-22-2006, 05:28 PM

I just hope Randy Moss [VERY PUBLICLY] flips out on him for sucking.

AllSaints · 05-22-2006, 05:35 PM

Aaron Brooks in the shotgun hut hut hut hike throws in the air to Randy Moss INTERCEPTION !!!! Brooks is laughing OMG whats this Randy Moss just took of his helmet and and it appears he is beating Brooks in the head with it.........

papz · 05-22-2006, 05:46 PM

spkb25 · 05-22-2006, 06:24 PM

i could care less.

ahh what fond memories of arron that brought back

saintbuck · 05-22-2006, 06:32 PM

I would be the happiest man in the world if no one ever talked about AB again. I hope the black hole swallows him alive.

05-22-2006, 04:21 PM	#1
TallySaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 1,367	Raiders QB Picture Still Up in the Air Raiders QB picture still up in the air It's not too early for trio to start jockeying for position By Bill Soliday 5-6-06 ALAMEDA ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â€Â Given his budding relationship with Paris Hilton, you tend to fear for Matt Leinart as much as you fear him. And yet, given the draft-day circumstances the Oakland Raiders were in a week ago, you'd think fear would have been on the minds of team quarterbacks Aaron Brooks, Marques Tuiasosopo and Andrew Walter. As it turns out, that couldn't have been much further from how it actually was. While the world waited for the Raiders to jump on the USC quarterback with the seventh pick of the draft: - Brooks was in Arizona playing golf and stifling a yawn. - Walter was at Lake Tahoe with his girlfriend having dinner. - Tuiasosopo was merely curious, then relieved. "I said, 'OK, well, I guess I don't have to worry about anything else except for what I need to do,'" said Tuiasosopo, who would have promptly been an ex-Raider if Oakland had selected Leinart instead of Texas safety Michael Huff with that pick." And so ... "We have a pretty good defensive player," he finally decided, letting out a laugh. In the end, Oakland decided it didn't need more quarterbacks. Ho hum. Brooks couldn't be bothered sneaking peeks at the draft. He was too busy shooting a 94 on the TPC of Scottsdale golf course to worry about some hotshot rookie usurping his status as a Raider, whatever that may be. "I could care less," Brooks said. "It's not my decision to make ... or for me to worry about. I felt more comfortable that they didn't, but even with them drafting a first-round quarterback, I don't think it would have been set in stone ... him having the job." Walter, taken by Oakland in the third round a year ago, went for parental wisdom when the "L" word came up. "My dad said it best," he said. "I don't know (where it came from), but he said the Raiders organization had me rated the top quarterback on their board (last year), and if that's true, then if I was healthy, why would they draft a quarterback this year? "I was watching, but I wasn't stressing out too much. But you still never know until you know. So after the pick came and went, there was affirmation. Time to get to business." Ah yes, the business of deciding just who is going to be the Oakland starting quarterback in 2006 ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â€Â Brooks, Walter or Tuiasosopo? Nobody seems to be in a hurry to say. Or to proclaim victory. "I come in thinking I'm going to have to compete anyway," Brooks said. "Nothing is given." For the record, at Friday's Day 1 of minicamp, when the first unit took the field, Brooks was behind center Jake Grove. Tuiasosopo was second up, followed by Walter. Coach Art Shell hasn't hauled out his chisel or looked for the stone to register the proclamation. "That's where we are today," Shell said. "The last camp it was different. It might be different next time." One thing Shell did admit to was he would like to go into training camp in July with a pretty solid idea of his pecking order. "I think it will take care of itself," he said. Ask Walter who the favorite is and he shrugs. "I don't know," he said. "I guess time will tell. Personally, I'd love to get a shot, but the bottom line is camp will be key." Tuiasosopo agreed whoever plays best will start, and because this is the final year of his contract, his time to swoop in is now. "From everything I've heard, coach has said it'll be open competition," he said. "That's all I need." Tuiasosopo got a boost not only when the Raiders passed on Leinart but also when the team did not trade him to Cleveland, a recent rumor. "There were definitely some things going on," Tuiasosopo said. "But I'm here, and that's what matters. They still wanted me here for another year. That makes me happy. "I'm ready to do this. No question, this is kind of a telltale year. Either I'll be here, hopefully for a long time, or I'll probably be somewhere else. "To me, it's a win-win (situation). It feels so good. The last couple of years, whatever they said, I just knew Kerry (Collins) was going to be the guy. That's fine, but I feel good I've got a chance to compete. I'm fired up." He has the fire. Brooks says he has energy and some fire himself since, as he puts it, "the league and the media have been trying to wash me away for years." Walter, recovered from a rookie groin injury, has his health and a disarming aura of calm. Stay tuned. 8)
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LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	I told myself I wouldn't start anymore Leon threads. Sometimes response is too much to hold off though... Can't ya just see him slouched back in a chair, head cocked back, smiling... Then unwittingly, he proclaims his whole approach to football in four words... I COULD CARE LESS He was careless indeed. They didn't call him Fumbles the Clown for nuttin'! Even if we hadn't got such a great quarterback leader type like Brees I would have been dancing just to not have to cope with that crap anymore.

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	I've always been a real big Tui fan... I thought he was going to be the second coming of Gannon. He needs to go to Gruden's offense. I'm pretty sure AB is going to be the starter over there with they money they're going to pay him. No point of not starting him if you dished out all that dough. One very interesting question though... If Brooks succeeds in Oakland, was it more of Haslett's fault we sucked so bad, Aaron's, or equal? Would you view Brooks lack of success here any less?

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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I can only go by what Brooks did here, and for me, he did not put in the work to improve himself while he was HERE. You hear of QBs going into the offseason working with their wideouts, especially new ones, on their own time to develop chemistry with them. Anyone ever heard that about AB? And the fact the he NEVER, in any game I saw, studied film on the game KILLED me. You sit back and watch any QB, even Manning and Brady, and they wanna see film during the game evn when things are going well. Now Haz gets his share of blame, for coddling Brooks. If someone just handed me a multi million dollar job with no competitionand no repercussions for constant screw up, I might be a little lax too. But some of that falls on a player's personal will to excel. Brooks never showed that here. Maybe it will surface in Oakland, but I doubt it. He;s off playing golf while he should be getting Porter and Moss together and planning a super explosive passing attack.

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