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Saintsfan66 05-25-2006 01:06 AM

Brees Update
 
Saints | Brees throwing 80 passes a day Wed, 24 May 2006 20:51:00 -0700


Jim Corbett, of USA Today, reports New Orleans Saints QB Drew Brees (shoulder) is supposed to be throwing 40 passes a day, but has doubled that to 80 passes a day four months after arthroscopic surgery to repair a torn labrum. Brees is showing a lot of confidence while throwing pain-free and strong and added, "I feel good. Coming off this injury, it's proving not only to a lot of people but to myself this can be done."

papz 05-25-2006 05:48 AM

RE: Brees Update
 
How's Culpepper doing again? 8)

I can't wait to see him work with Horn, Stallworth, and Hilton... things are looking up.

zachsaints52 05-25-2006 07:14 AM

RE: Brees Update
 
And Bush and Karney and anyone else :D:D

hagan714 05-25-2006 07:25 AM

RE: Brees Update
 
Brees will not help Donte that much. Same with Henderson. They are not that good. they just do not have hands.
Zach we will see. I have hope for him.
Horns mouth not Brees arm will determine Joes fate

NewMexSaint 05-25-2006 08:19 AM

RE: Brees Update
 
I think he WILL help our rec. corp. because he is more poise in the pocket, AB was nothing but panic and could not react well enough to even consider making a split second decison. They may be able to catch now that they will be getting a catch thats out in front of them. IMHO. I also think Joes numbers will be up big time over last year, unless our Oline is just garbage. If joe looks like Joe of last year, then Brees aught to fire a bullet pass in joes mouth.

BJSim 05-25-2006 11:55 AM

RE: Brees Update
 
Look for a Saint reciever in the Pro-Bowl this coming year. Payton has gotten 3000+ yards from every QB he's worked with the last six years. I don't see that changing. If that stays true then one of our guys (Horn or Stallworth) will have 1200+ yards & 8+ TDs.

I'm only worried that Brees is doing to much to early. It's a long way through camps and pre-season, I hope he's thinking of the long run. There's no need for him to be killing himself. He's our starter, even if he doesn't play until the last pre-season game.

mikesaintfan 05-25-2006 12:11 PM

RE: Brees Update
 
brees will certainly help donte and joe and everyone else just by throwing the ball so they dont have to jump 6ft in the air or turn around in mid stride like they did in the days of AB
the only one who will not benefit from brees are the linebackers we are playing against

papz 05-25-2006 01:00 PM

Re: RE: Brees Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714
Brees will not help Donte that much. Same with Henderson. They are not that good. they just do not have hands.
Zach we will see. I have hope for him.
Horns mouth not Brees arm will determine Joes fate

Well we can see you're quite the optimist.

:?

spkb25 05-25-2006 07:22 PM

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i think our receivers are fine and will get help with a healthy brees. i think haas will have a good rookie season. nothing mind blowing but will have a decent rookie season. i too am scared that brees is throwing to much. man just stay with what your suppose to do. i don't think i could handle him setting himself back by throwing to much.

TheDeuce 05-25-2006 08:11 PM

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Brees will not help Donte that much. Same with Henderson.
He won't? Don't you think that having a leader behind center who leads his receivers and has something called "touch" is an asset that will help our wide receivers? I do. Besides, I think Donte was great last season. Devery just didn't play enough, but when he did, he was pretty impressive. I think with Brees AND an offensive minded coach, we are going to see our offensive production boosted this season. Don't underestimate what a catchable pass can do not only for a receiver's ability to actually catch the ball, but also for his confidence....

JimBone 05-25-2006 09:04 PM

Well isnt Donte's forte running by people and getting the deep ball? That is certainly not Brees' game...not before the injury and certainly not now...i dont see Brees being a central figure in Donte improving...but i hope i am wrong.

papz 05-25-2006 09:17 PM

I've seen Brees throw perfect passes down field to Parker and McCardell plenty of times... and we've seen him dump down to Gates and Tomlinson all the time. As far as Stallworth is concerned, his game certainly is to run by people. He's never been much of a deep threat down field though. Catching slants along with those intermediate routes and making people miss imo is his forte.

NewMexSaint 05-25-2006 09:28 PM

The only reason Donte couldnt get deep last year, is because the other team knew Joe was hurt and could play more cover on Stallworth. They also knew that the TOOL running our offense was going to hand it to whoever the RB at the time was , and our RB was going to get a 2 yard gain, Because Gumby wasnt going to audible out of it, and thus results in Donte with..... maybe apass for a few yards over the middle, or maybe Hollywood on a 10 yd comeback.... but more than likely... if there was 35 defenders in the box, he was going to hand it off........ Dont get mad fellas this............. is the fat tire talking. and like I tell my wife when Im drinking. Im more honest

JimBone 05-25-2006 10:00 PM

So are you telling me that throwing the long ball is Brees's strength? I never thought that was one of his biggest attributes, but one of his few negatives. I can see him hitting Donte on a slant for a big game, just not down the sideline for a 70 yard score.

BJSim 05-25-2006 10:31 PM

Jim, Brees played in an offense built around LT & Gates. He wasn't required to throw the deep ball. But when he needed to he could. Look at the WRs there and remember that McCardell (who I love) was considered a BIG improvement for the position and he's not the best out there that's for sure.

GoldRush26 05-25-2006 11:25 PM

Re: RE: Brees Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714
Brees will not help Donte that much. Same with Henderson. They are not that good. they just do not have hands.
Zach we will see. I have hope for him.
Horns mouth not Brees arm will determine Joes fate

Well I think he has a point to an extent. I think Joe Horn will be Joe Horn pretty much, but we have a healthy Deuce and Reggie Bush to get the ball to. People that are expecting Stallworth to have career numbers will be disappointed. Fact is we don't NEED him to have career numbers. What we need is for Horn to be the Horn that we all know, for Deuce to get us about 1,100 or 1,200 yards, and for Bush to get us about 8 to 10 TDs in one form or another. Stallworth's production will go up no doubt, but it won't be on an exponential level because he'll be our second and sometimes third option this year with Bush in the passing game.

JimBone 05-26-2006 02:13 AM

Well, apparantly you are a chargers fan since you have seen Brees throw the deep successfully "many times". Now you say he didnt have to throw the deep ball...my point was that throwing the deep ball is not his strong suit...and the shoulder injury isnt going to help him much in that aspect.

BoudinSandwich 05-26-2006 03:56 AM

Actually, Brees was pretty good with the deep ball. He may not have the distance that say, Aaron Brooks, has, but his balls are accurate. As strong as Brooks' arm was, his balls where no where near accurate. He constantly over or underthrew. Brees might not throw 70+ yards, but he'll throw 50 and actually connect.

papz 05-26-2006 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JimBone
Well, apparantly you are a chargers fan since you have seen Brees throw the deep successfully "many times".

No... apparently I'm a big football fan period. I don't restrict myself to strictly Saints football. I can talk to you about every team out there and probably every single sport out there besides hockey. So though that probably was meant to be an insult, it failed miserably.

BJSim 05-26-2006 11:16 AM

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Now you say he didnt have to throw the deep ball...
And that part was mine. So you should make sure to argue points with the same person if you're saying they contradicted themselves.

And just like papz I'm a huge football fan overall. The Saints are the reason I've got Sunday Ticket, but I don't turn off the TV after thier game is over. In fact my TV does split screen so I watch two games at a time most of the time, and watch stats live online at the computer. Oh and papz, I've got you covered on hockey, it's my #2 favorite sport.

FatiusJeebs 05-26-2006 11:34 AM

Papz....we gotta get you on the hockey trip. I find it impossible to love football and not love hockey! :bang:

LOL.

JimBone 05-26-2006 12:39 PM

No papz, that was not an insult...I watch a lot of football too...and in the games and highlights that i have seen from the Chargers, it seems to me like all of the Brees highlights were on 15-25 yard passes that his receivers made into a big game...and that is a good thing...its nice to have a QB hit his guy in stride and let him make the most of a play, but i have not seen "many" times where he had a ball that was in the air for 40 yards and the receiver run under it for a long gain....but, i didnt catch many charger games...

and BJ....i made a mistake, no big deal...no need to get your feathers ruffled...and i would hope that you are not implying that i ONLY watch the Saints...i think i know my share of football as a whole, not just the Saints...and congrats on Hockey being your #2 favorite sport...whats your #2 favorite color?

BJSim 05-26-2006 12:51 PM

Jim trust me I don't get my "feathers ruffled" by anything on this board. Just helping papz out, same with the hockey thing.

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and i would hope that you are not implying that i ONLY watch the Saints
The implication was yours actually... when you implied papz was a Chargers fan for watching other games. That kind of comment is a slap in the face of any sports fan, to be told that watching another team diminishes thier love of the "home" team.

OH and because you asked... my second favorite color is Orange (Flyers colors) beind the tied Black and Gold of course.

papz 05-26-2006 01:04 PM

Thankyou BJ... I'm glad you saw what I saw.

Anyways... hockey fans are crazy. I was relocated to Buffalo and Sabres fans are loco. I'll watch a game or two but I just don't know why I can't get into it. Maybe if I understood the rules etc. more than I'd be a bit more interested.

BoudinSandwich 05-26-2006 03:25 PM

For the record, I AM a Chargers fan. They're my #2 team.

JimBone 05-26-2006 09:17 PM

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and i would hope that you are not implying that i ONLY watch the Saints
The implication was yours actually... when you implied papz was a Chargers fan for watching other games. That kind of comment is a slap in the face of any sports fan, to be told that watching another team diminishes thier love of the "home" team.

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No, i didnt imply that at all...i reserve my saturdays and sundays for football...not just LSU...and not just the Saints...but i would be lying if i said i saw "many" Chargers games...i have seen a handfull and seeing Brees throw the deep ball was something that i must have missed. So I figured he was a Chargers fan since he saw them play a lot. I know in Louisiana, Chargers games arent televised that often...misunderstanding.

TallySaint 05-26-2006 10:23 PM

I'm almost as high on Brees as the rest of you. Seems he's our answer in perfect health. Great field general, attitude and all that. Throwin' 40 or 80 balls a day....

Don't wanna be the dark cloud in the silver lining here. Call me Chicken Little. I hope I'm wrong. But Brees health and durabilty concerns me.


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dwiley21 05-27-2006 10:54 AM

The long ball is just for show anyway. If you hit it great HOME RUN, but if not it still makes the safeties keep it in the back of their minds and respect the chance. Besides most big long ball gains are not because the QB threw a perfect pass, but rather the receiver made a good adjustment!

mikesaintfan 05-27-2006 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papz
I've seen Brees throw perfect passes down field to Parker and McCardell plenty of times... and we've seen him dump down to Gates and Tomlinson all the time. As far as Stallworth is concerned, his game certainly is to run by people. He's never been much of a deep threat down field though. Catching slants along with those intermediate routes and making people miss imo is his forte.

I agree, most of his big receptions had alot of ROC yards as i remeber

TIGERSAINT31 05-30-2006 06:15 PM

Brees does not have a cannon for a arm, but he is very accurate and he knows when to throw the ball. Anyway we do not need him to throw it 60 yards, just put it between the numbers and Donte will do the rest

xan 05-31-2006 06:17 AM

When was Stallworth's issue catching the ball? He's not had as many drops as Horn or Pathon or Az Hakim adjusted for opportunity, so where's all this hate coming from? If Brees survives contact, he will be a much better field general and execute on an utterly higher plane than his predecessor. Everyone will be excited to catch the ball because there will be fewer double coverages and the opportunity to make a big play will be there. I think that many times receivers were anticipating a crushing hit because either the ball wasn't put in the right place at the right time, or the ball was forced into a coverage situation where injury was likely.


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