saints trade johnathon sullivan

saintsplaya · 06-05-2006, 02:19 PM

saints trade him o the patriots for wr bethel johnson. bethel can really fly he will add more speed to the already fast wr group. some serious speed with stallworth henderson lewis and now johnson.

saintbuck · 06-05-2006, 02:25 PM

wheres the link

TallySaint · 06-05-2006, 02:26 PM

Saints trade Sullivan for wide receiver

Jay Glazer / FOXSports.com
Posted: 19 minutes ago

Just prior to the 2003 NFL draft, the New Orleans Saints traded a pair of first-round picks so they could move up and select Georgia defensive tackle Johnathan Sullivan with the sixth overall pick.

Three years later, the Saints are sending Sullivan packing.

FOXSports.com has learned that New Orleans has traded Sullivan to the New England Patriots for wide receiver Bethel Johnson.

Sullivan quickly fell out of favor with new Saints head coach Sean Payton because he didn't show up on time to recent minicamp meetings.

Last season, Sullivan played in 15 games for the Saints, making 29 tackles.

Johnson appeared in 11 games for the Patriots in 2005, making just four catches for 67 yards and one touchdown.

www.foxsports.com

hagan714 · 06-05-2006, 02:27 PM

never thought another WR. I have watched Bethal up here in NE. he can fly and one heck of a return man. HMM I guess the next move will be Henderson or Stallworth going. maybe both. Well we just saved some cap money to boot. Wonder if the beerman is on a shortlist? Where did you get the info?

TallySaint · 06-05-2006, 02:29 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5668278

NOSaints · 06-05-2006, 02:37 PM

From what i hear, Stallworth showed up late for practice on Saturday, and was kept from practicing as punishment ... then on Sunday he was limited to the amount of time he was ont he field. Some say he was seen stretching his shoulder a lot on the sidelines on SUnday. I think the writing is on the wall. One way to get on Payton's bad side is to be late and show disrespect to the rest of the team. I say Stallworth's days are numbered, unless he picks it up a notch and starts being more disciplined and showing up to practices on time. Too bad too, because I think Stallworth is capable of having a great year with Brees at QB.

saintbuck · 06-05-2006, 02:38 PM

Why for another receiver? CB, DT, or any part of the O-line would have filled a much larger void

hagan714 · 06-05-2006, 02:40 PM

81 Johnson, Bethel WR 5'11'' 200 02/11/1979 4 Texas A&M
RECEIVING

Year Team ........................G GS No Yards Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ FD
2003 New England Patriots 15 5 ..16 ...209 ..13.1 45 .2... 2 ...1 ...12
2004 New England Patriots 13 1 ..10 ...174 ..17.4 48 .1... 3 ....2 ...8
2005 New England Patriots 11 1 ..4 ......67 ..16.8 55 .1 ...1 ....1 ....1
TOTAL .............................39 7 .30 ...450 ..15.0 55 .4 ...6 ....4 ..21

RUSHING

Year Team ........................G GS Att Yards Avg Lg TD 20+ FD
2003 New England Patriots 15 5 ...1 ..-12 ..-12.0 -12 ..0 .0 ....0
2004 New England Patriots 13 1 ...2 ...8 .....4.0 ...11 ..0 ..0 ...1
2005 New England Patriots 11 1 ...0 ...0 -.... 0 ......0 ...0 .0
TOTAL ............................ 39 7 ...3 ..-4 ...-1.3 ....11 ..0 ..0 ...1

KICK RETURNS

Year Team ........................G No Yards Avg Lg TD 40+
2003 New England Patriots 15 30 ...847 .28.2 92 ..1 ...5
2004 New England Patriots 13 41 .1016 .24.8 93 ...1 ..3
2005 New England Patriots 11 31 ..694 ..22.4 54 ...0 ..1
TOTAL ............................39 102 2557 .25.1 93 ...2 ..9

PUNT RETURNS

Year Team ........................G No FC Yards Avg Lg TD 20+
2003 New England Patriots 15 1 ...0 ...2 .....2.0 ....2 ..0 ...0
2004 New England Patriots 13 4 ...1 ...8 .....2.0 ....6 ..0... 0
2005 New England Patriots 11 1 ....0 ..11 ...11.0 ..11 ..0.. 0
TOTAL ............................39 6 ....1 ..21 ....3.5... 11.. 0 ..0

NOSaints · 06-05-2006, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by saintbuck

Why for another receiver? CB, DT, or any part of the O-line would have filled a much larger void

We probably looked at what NE was willing to get rid of, and picked the best guy on their list. I am sure NE was not releasing any good linemen, On the bright side of things, just be happy we got anything at all for Sully because I really think that he would of been cut soon, and then we would of gotten nothing for him. Also be happy for all the cap room we freed up by dumping that loser, heartless SLOB of an excuse.

hagan714 · 06-05-2006, 02:49 PM

Calm down guys bethel is fast but he is not that great of a WR. here in NE he never really got the chance so I will give him a break but he is a heck of a KR. Only reason he did not return much last year is that Dewight was a mad man in the return game. Bethal was not as bold in not calling fair catches and poor at punt returns in nowing where on the field heis inside the 10 to let the ball go. but they did kick way from him on the kickoffs.

06-05-2006, 02:19 PM	#1
saintsplaya Registered Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 52	saints trade johnathon sullivan saints trade him o the patriots for wr bethel johnson. bethel can really fly he will add more speed to the already fast wr group. some serious speed with stallworth henderson lewis and now johnson.
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06-05-2006, 02:25 PM	#2
saintbuck 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mamou, LA. Posts: 313	RE: saints trade johnathon sullivan wheres the link

06-05-2006, 02:26 PM	#3
TallySaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 1,367	Saints trade Sullivan for wide receiver Jay Glazer / FOXSports.com Posted: 19 minutes ago Just prior to the 2003 NFL draft, the New Orleans Saints traded a pair of first-round picks so they could move up and select Georgia defensive tackle Johnathan Sullivan with the sixth overall pick. Three years later, the Saints are sending Sullivan packing. FOXSports.com has learned that New Orleans has traded Sullivan to the New England Patriots for wide receiver Bethel Johnson. Sullivan quickly fell out of favor with new Saints head coach Sean Payton because he didn't show up on time to recent minicamp meetings. Last season, Sullivan played in 15 games for the Saints, making 29 tackles. Johnson appeared in 11 games for the Patriots in 2005, making just four catches for 67 yards and one touchdown. www.foxsports.com
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06-05-2006, 02:27 PM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	RE: saints trade johnathon sullivan never thought another WR. I have watched Bethal up here in NE. he can fly and one heck of a return man. HMM I guess the next move will be Henderson or Stallworth going. maybe both. Well we just saved some cap money to boot. Wonder if the beerman is on a shortlist? Where did you get the info?

06-05-2006, 02:40 PM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	RE: saints trade johnathon sullivan 81 Johnson, Bethel WR 5'11'' 200 02/11/1979 4 Texas A&M RECEIVING Year Team ........................G GS No Yards Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ FD 2003 New England Patriots 15 5 ..16 ...209 ..13.1 45 .2... 2 ...1 ...12 2004 New England Patriots 13 1 ..10 ...174 ..17.4 48 .1... 3 ....2 ...8 2005 New England Patriots 11 1 ..4 ......67 ..16.8 55 .1 ...1 ....1 ....1 TOTAL .............................39 7 .30 ...450 ..15.0 55 .4 ...6 ....4 ..21 RUSHING Year Team ........................G GS Att Yards Avg Lg TD 20+ FD 2003 New England Patriots 15 5 ...1 ..-12 ..-12.0 -12 ..0 .0 ....0 2004 New England Patriots 13 1 ...2 ...8 .....4.0 ...11 ..0 ..0 ...1 2005 New England Patriots 11 1 ...0 ...0 -.... 0 ......0 ...0 .0 TOTAL ............................ 39 7 ...3 ..-4 ...-1.3 ....11 ..0 ..0 ...1 KICK RETURNS Year Team ........................G No Yards Avg Lg TD 40+ 2003 New England Patriots 15 30 ...847 .28.2 92 ..1 ...5 2004 New England Patriots 13 41 .1016 .24.8 93 ...1 ..3 2005 New England Patriots 11 31 ..694 ..22.4 54 ...0 ..1 TOTAL ............................39 102 2557 .25.1 93 ...2 ..9 PUNT RETURNS Year Team ........................G No FC Yards Avg Lg TD 20+ 2003 New England Patriots 15 1 ...0 ...2 .....2.0 ....2 ..0 ...0 2004 New England Patriots 13 4 ...1 ...8 .....2.0 ....6 ..0... 0 2005 New England Patriots 11 1 ....0 ..11 ...11.0 ..11 ..0.. 0 TOTAL ............................39 6 ....1 ..21 ....3.5... 11.. 0 ..0

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NOSaints 100th Post Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lakewood, California Posts: 113	From what i hear, Stallworth showed up late for practice on Saturday, and was kept from practicing as punishment ... then on Sunday he was limited to the amount of time he was ont he field. Some say he was seen stretching his shoulder a lot on the sidelines on SUnday. I think the writing is on the wall. One way to get on Payton's bad side is to be late and show disrespect to the rest of the team. I say Stallworth's days are numbered, unless he picks it up a notch and starts being more disciplined and showing up to practices on time. Too bad too, because I think Stallworth is capable of having a great year with Brees at QB.

06-05-2006, 02:38 PM	#7
saintbuck 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mamou, LA. Posts: 313	Why for another receiver? CB, DT, or any part of the O-line would have filled a much larger void

06-05-2006, 02:48 PM	#9
NOSaints 100th Post Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lakewood, California Posts: 113	Originally Posted by saintbuck Why for another receiver? CB, DT, or any part of the O-line would have filled a much larger void We probably looked at what NE was willing to get rid of, and picked the best guy on their list. I am sure NE was not releasing any good linemen, On the bright side of things, just be happy we got anything at all for Sully because I really think that he would of been cut soon, and then we would of gotten nothing for him. Also be happy for all the cap room we freed up by dumping that loser, heartless SLOB of an excuse.

06-05-2006, 02:49 PM	#10
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	RE: saints trade johnathon sullivan Calm down guys bethel is fast but he is not that great of a WR. here in NE he never really got the chance so I will give him a break but he is a heck of a KR. Only reason he did not return much last year is that Dewight was a mad man in the return game. Bethal was not as bold in not calling fair catches and poor at punt returns in nowing where on the field heis inside the 10 to let the ball go. but they did kick way from him on the kickoffs.