papz, i understand your point of view on some of that...but dont use the arguement when you say we gave up a guy taken in the 2nd round for a guy taken in the 4th...you know how the draft goes...you know there are a lot of 4th round picks and lower that turned into Pro Bowl players...in fact, 25% of the players in the NFL were undrafted.

is grant still rumored to be traded?
one of these nobodies + grant for ellis?

No way. Grant is about 100x better than Ellis.

Charles Grant was never rumored to be traded. And trading him for Ellis would be a joke. Grant is just entering his prime and he has showed flashes of being great...he still needs to prove to me that last year was a fluke but he is on another level than Greg Ellis.

So, you bring out the death stick too hey JimBo? :P

I saw it laying around and i said what the hell...not bad.

LMAO!!!

Yay Watsons gone ! and who did we get....??? Never heard of him...... Watson will be a star on Buffalo watch...... gah.......

Dont count on it...he'll be lucky to make the team.

Yeah right ... Watson will be a star in Buffalo, Sully will be a star in NE, and of course Ab will be a star in Oakland. Give me a break !! the only starts those guys will see will be the ones swirling around their heads after they get nailed by a huge lineman.