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saintswhodi · 06-07-2006, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by NewMexSaint

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

He doesn't have a lot of drops, cause they don't throw his way much. If people think Stallworth is inconsistent, you are about to see the living meaning of the word if we trade for this guy. Well, we did have a previous example in AB, this is his equivalent at WR.

I dont know about the AB comparison, I think hes bad, but AB single handedly lost games for us, I dont see Ashley L doing that !!

That's cause Ahley Lelie is a receiver, which is a dependant position. He depends on someone else to get him the ball. AB was in a dominant position. But for his position, Lelie is just as inconsistent.

NewMexSaint · 06-07-2006, 12:06 PM

How could it be an equivalent? Its just like you said one is in a dominant position the other is not, so its not a good comparison, Im sorry ....YOOUR FIRED!!

saintswhodi · 06-07-2006, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by NewMexSaint

How could it be an equivalent? Its just like you said one is in a dominant position the other is not, so its not a good comparison, Im sorry ....YOOUR FIRED!!

WTF?!?!?! Hold on buddy. What point are you trying to make? I said Lelie is just as inconsistent a receiver, as AB was a QB. The dominant/dependant ratio was only relevant to your point about Lelie not being able to lose us games as AB did. Don't get it twisted, and don't look for arguments where there are none.

NewMexSaint · 06-07-2006, 12:18 PM

LOL, First of all, I will make my point again so that you can understand it... You say that AB and Ashley L are both the living meaning to inconsitant!!

Ab lost games for us BY HIMSELF on MANY occasions
Asheley L has NEVER even came close to costting them the game. and you cant prove that different !!

I think you want some kind of battle, but Im not going to do that, Im taking the high road....
and IM SPENT

NewMexSaint · 06-07-2006, 12:20 PM

I think you are fighting a different cause than I am, you may have it twisted buddy

Its all fun and games untill Whodi gets hurt

saintswhodi · 06-07-2006, 12:28 PM

LMAO!!! This is some twilight zone ish right here.

Ab lost games for us BY HIMSELF on MANY occasions
Asheley L has NEVER even came close to costting them the game. and you cant prove that different !!

So what? That's the difference between a dominant and dependant position on a team. Doesn't make one player any less INCONSISTENT. Key word. Single handledly losing games does not speak to their overall INCONSISTENCY. There's that word again. Stay focused on it. AB is an inconsistent QB, to say the least. Prob one of the most inconsistent in the league. Lelie is an inconsistent receiver, follow me now, prob one of the most inconsistent in the league. Just because they don't play the same position, doesn't mean their inconsistency can't be equivalent. If this were the case, we'd have a league MVP for QB, a league MVP for RB, a league MVP for WR, and so on and so forth. But guess what, we don't. Don't let the fact they play different positions falsely lead you to believe they can't be compared. I'll say it again, Lelie is just as inconsistent a WR, as AB was a QB. AB just had more control of games in his hands, cause he was a QB, that's the difference. I don't even see what you are arguing anyway. Are you arguing Lelie is not inconsistent, or that he is not as inconsistent as AB cause he did not single-handedly lose any games? That's weak. Tell me any WRs who have single-handledly won any games. They don't, cause they ALL rely on QBs to get them the ball. Every WR in the history of the NFL.

saintswhodi · 06-07-2006, 12:30 PM

Where's Ashton Kutcher with the camera? I must be on Punk'd or something cause this can't be a real argument.

JimBone · 06-07-2006, 01:31 PM

Well where does the third team come in? If we are give the Broncos a TE and they give us Lelie, whats the point in th ethird team? To moderate? To give opinion? We dont know what the trade's details are.

06-07-2006, 11:53 AM	#11
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by NewMexSaint Originally Posted by saintswhodi He doesn't have a lot of drops, cause they don't throw his way much. If people think Stallworth is inconsistent, you are about to see the living meaning of the word if we trade for this guy. Well, we did have a previous example in AB, this is his equivalent at WR. I dont know about the AB comparison, I think hes bad, but AB single handedly lost games for us, I dont see Ashley L doing that !! That's cause Ahley Lelie is a receiver, which is a dependant position. He depends on someone else to get him the ball. AB was in a dominant position. But for his position, Lelie is just as inconsistent.

06-07-2006, 12:13 PM	#13
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by NewMexSaint How could it be an equivalent? Its just like you said one is in a dominant position the other is not, so its not a good comparison, Im sorry ....YOOUR FIRED!! WTF?!?!?! Hold on buddy. What point are you trying to make? I said Lelie is just as inconsistent a receiver, as AB was a QB. The dominant/dependant ratio was only relevant to your point about Lelie not being able to lose us games as AB did. Don't get it twisted, and don't look for arguments where there are none.

06-07-2006, 12:28 PM	#16
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	LMAO!!! This is some twilight zone ish right here. Ab lost games for us BY HIMSELF on MANY occasions Asheley L has NEVER even came close to costting them the game. and you cant prove that different !! So what? That's the difference between a dominant and dependant position on a team. Doesn't make one player any less INCONSISTENT. Key word. Single handledly losing games does not speak to their overall INCONSISTENCY. There's that word again. Stay focused on it. AB is an inconsistent QB, to say the least. Prob one of the most inconsistent in the league. Lelie is an inconsistent receiver, follow me now, prob one of the most inconsistent in the league. Just because they don't play the same position, doesn't mean their inconsistency can't be equivalent. If this were the case, we'd have a league MVP for QB, a league MVP for RB, a league MVP for WR, and so on and so forth. But guess what, we don't. Don't let the fact they play different positions falsely lead you to believe they can't be compared. I'll say it again, Lelie is just as inconsistent a WR, as AB was a QB. AB just had more control of games in his hands, cause he was a QB, that's the difference. I don't even see what you are arguing anyway. Are you arguing Lelie is not inconsistent, or that he is not as inconsistent as AB cause he did not single-handedly lose any games? That's weak. Tell me any WRs who have single-handledly won any games. They don't, cause they ALL rely on QBs to get them the ball. Every WR in the history of the NFL.

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06-07-2006, 12:06 PM	#12
NewMexSaint 100th Post Join Date: May 2006 Location: Farmington, NM Posts: 141	How could it be an equivalent? Its just like you said one is in a dominant position the other is not, so its not a good comparison, Im sorry ....YOOUR FIRED!!

06-07-2006, 12:18 PM	#14
NewMexSaint 100th Post Join Date: May 2006 Location: Farmington, NM Posts: 141	LOL, First of all, I will make my point again so that you can understand it... You say that AB and Ashley L are both the living meaning to inconsitant!! Ab lost games for us BY HIMSELF on MANY occasions Asheley L has NEVER even came close to costting them the game. and you cant prove that different !! I think you want some kind of battle, but Im not going to do that, Im taking the high road.... and IM SPENT

06-07-2006, 12:20 PM	#15
NewMexSaint 100th Post Join Date: May 2006 Location: Farmington, NM Posts: 141	I think you are fighting a different cause than I am, you may have it twisted buddy Its all fun and games untill Whodi gets hurt

06-07-2006, 12:30 PM	#17
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Where's Ashton Kutcher with the camera? I must be on Punk'd or something cause this can't be a real argument.

06-07-2006, 01:31 PM	#18
JimBone 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Thibodaux, La Posts: 614	Well where does the third team come in? If we are give the Broncos a TE and they give us Lelie, whats the point in th ethird team? To moderate? To give opinion? We dont know what the trade's details are.