I say 9-7 this year

JimBone · 06-13-2006, 01:11 PM

What the Saints need to do to be a .500 team or better is simple...they have to get lucky. They are going to have to get a break go their way here and there and they are going to have to force turnovers and more importantly, capitalize on them...you have to think that the silly plays from the QB will be cut down or eliminated all together, you would hope that the holding penalties and the constant false starts will be reduced, you would hope the WR's hang on to the ball, and that our special teams get brought back to life. Basically, in order to compete in the South, and against the teams we play in the NFC East and the Steelers division. we have to play our best game and they have to falter a bit just to make it close.

BooBirdSaint · 06-13-2006, 03:14 PM

If "if and buts" were cherries and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas... Santa's bookie says 6 wins and the Saints will spend the holidays at home this year dreaming about what else but those cherries and nuts...

papz · 06-13-2006, 03:25 PM

7 to 9 wins will be a successful season for us. First year under a new coach and upping our win total from last year 4, 5, or 6 games would be a great accomplishment for us. I can see us with 9 but realistically 7 or 8 does look more likely. But if we do make it into the playoffs though, I wouldn't be the least surprised.

LSUJeremy · 06-13-2006, 04:34 PM

I think the Dolphins success last year compared to the year before gives a good measuring stick for us this season.

There's a lot of similarities: coaching change; player overhaul; coach that wants discipline; won/loss record.

jdiggy · 06-14-2006, 11:19 AM

Where exactly did he say he would be happy? He said, and I quote, "he could live with it." In case reality didn't show up in your mailbox, we were a 3-13 team that just got blown up.

Easy Whodi... You're a fiery one.

I wasn't slamming him for being able to "live with" a 7-9 season. If anything, I think it speaks volumes about the loyalty of Saints fans. Despite, only having a handful of winning seasons in the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE TEAM, people continue to be optimistic. Even if that optimism lies in a 7-9 losing season.

I agree that record would be an improvement over 3-13. But, going 9-7 and making the playoffs would be better. I'll drink from that Kool-Aid any time.

The NFL should consider themselves lucky that the communities, in and around, New Orleans have supported this organization despite having a pedestrian team most years.

The Saints are perpetual underdogs. I think many of the people from New Orleans (myself included) identify with the Saints because we all see ourselves as underdogs in some way. It's part of the fiber of the city, and although I no longer live there, I carry it with me everyday.

Hmm, so can we count you as not being a true Saints fan. What else is there, a faux Saints fan?

As for questioning my loyalty to the Saints, you would be wrong.

I bleed Black and Gold, and every year I'm hoping for a Black and Gold Super Bowl.

I grew up with the Saints in a 1 sport town. 'nuff said.

NOSaints · 06-14-2006, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

Haz lacked discipline huh? That's now what they said when he first got here. The words "fiery, disciplined former player" come directly to mind.

It doesn't matter what was said about Haslett ... the proof was in the puddin. SHOW ME THE MONEY. Haz didn't. He might of started out disciplined, but he got soft. It was eveident with all the mental mistakes the team was making.

saintswhodi · 06-14-2006, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by NOSaints

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

Haz lacked discipline huh? That's now what they said when he first got here. The words "fiery, disciplined former player" come directly to mind.

It doesn't matter what was said about Haslett ... the proof was in the puddin. SHOW ME THE MONEY. Haz didn't. He might of started out disciplined, but he got soft. It was eveident with all the mental mistakes the team was making.

Let me try this again:

Not saying Payton will allow that to happen, but there is recent history to say it could.

saintswhodi · 06-14-2006, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by jdiggy

Where exactly did he say he would be happy? He said, and I quote, "he could live with it." In case reality didn't show up in your mailbox, we were a 3-13 team that just got blown up.

Easy Whodi... You're a fiery one.

I wasn't slamming him for being able to "live with" a 7-9 season. If anything, I think it speaks volumes about the loyalty of Saints fans. Despite, only having a handful of winning seasons in the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE TEAM, people continue to be optimistic. Even if that optimism lies in a 7-9 losing season.

I agree that record would be an improvement over 3-13. But, going 9-7 and making the playoffs would be better. I'll drink from that Kool-Aid any time.

The NFL should consider themselves lucky that the communities, in and around, New Orleans have supported this organization despite having a pedestrian team most years.

The Saints are perpetual underdogs. I think many of the people from New Orleans (myself included) identify with the Saints because we all see ourselves as underdogs in some way. It's part of the fiber of the city, and although I no longer live there, I carry it with me everyday.

Hmm, so can we count you as not being a true Saints fan. What else is there, a faux Saints fan?

As for questioning my loyalty to the Saints, you would be wrong.

I bleed Black and Gold, and every year I'm hoping for a Black and Gold Super Bowl.

I grew up with the Saints in a 1 sport town. 'nuff said.

You weren't slamming him huh? What were these comments for?

Only, a true Saints fan would be happy with a 7-9 season.

Is there any other place on earth where below .500 would be celebrated?

Must be an AZ Cardinals fan too...

Come on dude. He never said he'd be happy with it, you did, and you relate him saying he could live with 7-9 if we are headed in the right direction to it being "celebrated," your words, not mine. What was the Cardinals remark for, he's obviously a Saints fan. All that other stuff you said, that rah-rah for the team, it's great and all, but you took what was said out of context from THAT Saints fan and added your own twist to it, and I simply called you on it. No biggie.

GoldRush26 · 06-14-2006, 07:12 PM

The main sentiment of the realisitic Saints fan is.....you have to crawl before you walk. Fact is we were 3-13 last year and we looked every bit like it. Yeah a lot was due to Hurricane katrina but it still was an awful team. Now we have a team with many newcomers, a new coach with a new scheme. We still have a questionable D, especially in the LBs. We still have a pourus o-line with Brown adjusting to LT in the NFL and Stinchcomb playing his first full season(knock on wood). Payton needs at least another good offseason to weed out the bad apples before we can sniff the playoffs. We should finish ahead of the Bucs, but anything other than that I wouldn't bet on this season.2

LordOfEntropy · 06-14-2006, 09:41 PM

I'm thinking 6-10 this year -- but that's nothing more than intuition. I haven't followed this offseason as closely as usual. Regardless of how we do this year, we'll be improved. And I believe the improvement will be more pronounced next year. I think we're finally on the right track.

06-13-2006, 01:11 PM	#21
JimBone 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Thibodaux, La Posts: 614	What the Saints need to do to be a .500 team or better is simple...they have to get lucky. They are going to have to get a break go their way here and there and they are going to have to force turnovers and more importantly, capitalize on them...you have to think that the silly plays from the QB will be cut down or eliminated all together, you would hope that the holding penalties and the constant false starts will be reduced, you would hope the WR's hang on to the ball, and that our special teams get brought back to life. Basically, in order to compete in the South, and against the teams we play in the NFC East and the Steelers division. we have to play our best game and they have to falter a bit just to make it close.
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06-13-2006, 04:34 PM	#24
LSUJeremy 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 472	I think the Dolphins success last year compared to the year before gives a good measuring stick for us this season. There's a lot of similarities: coaching change; player overhaul; coach that wants discipline; won/loss record.
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06-14-2006, 11:19 AM	#25
jdiggy 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ol' Metry Posts: 239	Where exactly did he say he would be happy? He said, and I quote, "he could live with it." In case reality didn't show up in your mailbox, we were a 3-13 team that just got blown up. Easy Whodi... You're a fiery one. I wasn't slamming him for being able to "live with" a 7-9 season. If anything, I think it speaks volumes about the loyalty of Saints fans. Despite, only having a handful of winning seasons in the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE TEAM, people continue to be optimistic. Even if that optimism lies in a 7-9 losing season. I agree that record would be an improvement over 3-13. But, going 9-7 and making the playoffs would be better. I'll drink from that Kool-Aid any time. The NFL should consider themselves lucky that the communities, in and around, New Orleans have supported this organization despite having a pedestrian team most years. The Saints are perpetual underdogs. I think many of the people from New Orleans (myself included) identify with the Saints because we all see ourselves as underdogs in some way. It's part of the fiber of the city, and although I no longer live there, I carry it with me everyday. Hmm, so can we count you as not being a true Saints fan. What else is there, a faux Saints fan? As for questioning my loyalty to the Saints, you would be wrong. I bleed Black and Gold, and every year I'm hoping for a Black and Gold Super Bowl. I grew up with the Saints in a 1 sport town. 'nuff said.

06-14-2006, 11:47 AM	#26
NOSaints 100th Post Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lakewood, California Posts: 113	Originally Posted by saintswhodi Haz lacked discipline huh? That's now what they said when he first got here. The words "fiery, disciplined former player" come directly to mind. It doesn't matter what was said about Haslett ... the proof was in the puddin. SHOW ME THE MONEY. Haz didn't. He might of started out disciplined, but he got soft. It was eveident with all the mental mistakes the team was making.

06-14-2006, 01:13 PM	#27
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by NOSaints Originally Posted by saintswhodi Haz lacked discipline huh? That's now what they said when he first got here. The words "fiery, disciplined former player" come directly to mind. It doesn't matter what was said about Haslett ... the proof was in the puddin. SHOW ME THE MONEY. Haz didn't. He might of started out disciplined, but he got soft. It was eveident with all the mental mistakes the team was making. Let me try this again: Not saying Payton will allow that to happen, but there is recent history to say it could.

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06-13-2006, 03:14 PM	#22
BooBirdSaint 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 273	If "if and buts" were cherries and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas... Santa's bookie says 6 wins and the Saints will spend the holidays at home this year dreaming about what else but those cherries and nuts...

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,737	7 to 9 wins will be a successful season for us. First year under a new coach and upping our win total from last year 4, 5, or 6 games would be a great accomplishment for us. I can see us with 9 but realistically 7 or 8 does look more likely. But if we do make it into the playoffs though, I wouldn't be the least surprised.

06-14-2006, 01:18 PM	#28
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by jdiggy Where exactly did he say he would be happy? He said, and I quote, "he could live with it." In case reality didn't show up in your mailbox, we were a 3-13 team that just got blown up. Easy Whodi... You're a fiery one. I wasn't slamming him for being able to "live with" a 7-9 season. If anything, I think it speaks volumes about the loyalty of Saints fans. Despite, only having a handful of winning seasons in the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE TEAM, people continue to be optimistic. Even if that optimism lies in a 7-9 losing season. I agree that record would be an improvement over 3-13. But, going 9-7 and making the playoffs would be better. I'll drink from that Kool-Aid any time. The NFL should consider themselves lucky that the communities, in and around, New Orleans have supported this organization despite having a pedestrian team most years. The Saints are perpetual underdogs. I think many of the people from New Orleans (myself included) identify with the Saints because we all see ourselves as underdogs in some way. It's part of the fiber of the city, and although I no longer live there, I carry it with me everyday. Hmm, so can we count you as not being a true Saints fan. What else is there, a faux Saints fan? As for questioning my loyalty to the Saints, you would be wrong. I bleed Black and Gold, and every year I'm hoping for a Black and Gold Super Bowl. I grew up with the Saints in a 1 sport town. 'nuff said. You weren't slamming him huh? What were these comments for? Only, a true Saints fan would be happy with a 7-9 season. Is there any other place on earth where below .500 would be celebrated? Must be an AZ Cardinals fan too... Come on dude. He never said he'd be happy with it, you did, and you relate him saying he could live with 7-9 if we are headed in the right direction to it being "celebrated," your words, not mine. What was the Cardinals remark for, he's obviously a Saints fan. All that other stuff you said, that rah-rah for the team, it's great and all, but you took what was said out of context from THAT Saints fan and added your own twist to it, and I simply called you on it. No biggie.

06-14-2006, 07:12 PM	#29
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	The main sentiment of the realisitic Saints fan is.....you have to crawl before you walk. Fact is we were 3-13 last year and we looked every bit like it. Yeah a lot was due to Hurricane katrina but it still was an awful team. Now we have a team with many newcomers, a new coach with a new scheme. We still have a questionable D, especially in the LBs. We still have a pourus o-line with Brown adjusting to LT in the NFL and Stinchcomb playing his first full season(knock on wood). Payton needs at least another good offseason to weed out the bad apples before we can sniff the playoffs. We should finish ahead of the Bucs, but anything other than that I wouldn't bet on this season.2
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06-14-2006, 09:41 PM	#30
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	I'm thinking 6-10 this year -- but that's nothing more than intuition. I haven't followed this offseason as closely as usual. Regardless of how we do this year, we'll be improved. And I believe the improvement will be more pronounced next year. I think we're finally on the right track.