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06-26-2006, 08:28 AM | #1 |
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06-26-2006, 09:11 AM | #2 |
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Hmm.....
I wouldn't worry too much about this O-line talk yet. 2 years ago, San Diego was rated as the worst O-line in football, then Bress goes to the pro bowl and they make the playoffs and they are called one of the best by the end of the season. I think Brees' majorly elevated play had something to do with that. We'll see a lot of that here. |
06-26-2006, 10:17 AM | #3 |
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and to be honest..I think our receiving core is better than San Diego's....
just a dominant tight end is lacking...but that should change as well.. |
06-27-2006, 01:59 AM | #4 |
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The safties will possibly help against the run. That may be the kind of defense they will have this year.
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Maybe I am completely off my rocker but whoever wrote this article sounds like a real moron to me. I honestly cannot say that I feel he did his research before writing the article as his comments fail to mention or acknowledge all the major defencive moves we made in the off season and the slight issue that the LB core will likely see two new starters from last years core, which will be a huge improvement in itself. Aweful, I would hardly say that the defense is aweful. This article completely fails to mention or acknowledge that the Saints offence last year was utterly worthless, plagued by injury and A.B., they managed to keep the defence on the field for 2/3 of every game giving other teams the ability to have those big break out plays. I can promise you, in any league, if a Defence stops an offence over and over but the offence stays on the field long enough to try enough plays out eventualy they are going to have a huge play. I agree with the offencive line questions but feel that a healthy Duece and Bush with Brees ability to make decisions fast will force Defences on thier heels and therefore make the offencive line look alot better then it is, which is exactly what happened in San Diego with gates and tomlinson.
Again, like nearly always, the experts have no idea what they are talking about. In all fairness though, how could they possibly? With all the teams in the NFL, the complications of the game these days, and the constant changes with players, play books, and scemes, how would it be possible for a expert to keep up with all of it and realy make an educated observation? I can tell you, from going to all the open work outs and being fanatical about information regarding the Saints becouse they are my biggest interest in life, we have a team this year that will compete for the division so long as we have no major health issues with the o-line, brees, bush, duece, McKenzie, W. Smith, LB.. So, there is concern in that. That is alot of possitions that I feel we dont have the dept chart to sufficiantly fill the role of the starter if they go down. Nobody can tell me that if the team does not stay healthy that they cant score 28+ points on average per game and that the defence wont hold teams on average to less then 21 points. I cant see the NFL averaging over 130 yards per game on the D this year, nor can I see the offence going 3 and all the time which will mean the D gets off the field and rests some, the big shocking pass plays will not happen as often since the opponent will get less tries with thier play book, the teams we play will not be able to manage the clock with a LB core that actualy -STOPS- the run... I mean, I just cant understand how anyone can think this team will not be a huge improvement and compete for the division title with Carolina. Atlanta has to many question marks with the most over-rated player in the NFL, Vic as well as thier defence that is lacking in run stop ability which they feel will be resolved by picking up one solid LB in the offseason. Tampa Bay has a offence that is limited by a young QB that I am definetly not convinced can be a winner, along with other question marks on offence. |
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06-27-2006, 06:43 AM | #6 |
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I meant to say I cant see teams getting over 130 yards -RUSHING- per game, like last year. In my post it sounds like I mean 130 yards total offence, lol. Which I definetly would not say.. That would be pushing our chances a bit.
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06-27-2006, 08:59 AM | #7 |
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Where is the reference, please?
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06-29-2006, 12:12 AM | #8 |
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if the saints D was so bad last year...how were they ranked 14th with an offense that turned the ball over so often...if the off season moves help, the saints have a great possiblity to be a top 10 defense next year.
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06-29-2006, 12:09 PM | #9 |
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I'm with 66 on this... I think you can find a lot deeper insight about the Saints on this and other Saint boards than on any national site. We dig in every nook and cranny for whatever info is available. We have a whole lot more eyes-on experience of games and even camps. Sometimes we even get some second hand info from Saint related sources. There is not one thing in that preview that has been expressed in much more detail by members here.
Second, I have a beef about reciting statistics, especially defensive statistics. NO allowed the 3rd fewest yards passing. Big whoop. Was this because they had the most feared pass rush and most awesome ballhawks? Vigilant? Hell no. The defense was so terribly atrocious against the run that no team had to throw the ball up very often. They were worst in the league giving up 19 runs of 20yds or longer. This works conversely too. The best run defenses are the best defenses in general usually. Tops in that were SD, Den, and Pitt. When you cannot run you have to start slinging it. Pitt was 16th, SD 28th, and Den 29th in pass D. I do not think it is coincidence that those same teams allowed only 16-19-16 pts per game while NO allowed 25. The pass D here was nothing to crow about or have confidence in. |
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