Deuce's future with the Saints

papz · 08-02-2006, 04:18 PM

With both Bush and Deuce having extremely large contracts, it's only a matter of time we try to trade Deuce. How much longer do you envision him in a Saints' uniform? And, what type of compensation would you want back for him?

a. Til the end of the season
b. 1 more year after this one
c. 2 more years

I personally think we starting fielding draft picks for him this upcoming offseason. I think with his large contract, a second rounder would be fair compensation.

TallySaint · 08-02-2006, 04:23 PM

Tough to say without knowing if he's fully recovered and durable.

8)

saintswhodi · 08-02-2006, 04:27 PM

Neither Edge JAmes or Shaun Alexander drew 2nd rounders, but neither had more than a franchise tender as a contract though. After this year, Deuce will be at the start of the third year of his contract. Maybe that will make it palatable for some teams to go after him with a second. But for me, I hope we don't trade him for at least 2-3 years, and allow Reggie to grow into being an every down back, if that's the plan. I think a healthy Deuce this year can still go over 1300 yards and 8 TDs with Reggie here, and you don't just trade that off. I really just don't wanna see Deuce go, although it's probably inevitable. BUT, with the way the salary cap increased, and how far under we are, and the fact we didn't sign any big name FAs to huge deals outside of Brees, we might be able to keep him. Might.

shackney · 08-02-2006, 04:27 PM

2 years...we need to trade while he has value...big back (like Eddie George) are great but not for long. I love Duce and the Saints will need him for a few years, but as they put the pieces together, they will need to address the d and o-line. He is still our guy this year!

papz · 08-02-2006, 04:33 PM

I think that's the ideal situation sw... but, that's a lot of money invested in two players at the same position. By trading him sooner than later, especially if he can have a good season, it would leave us more money to manuever in the market. It's been quite a while since we signed ourselves a big time impact defensive player.

And Tally, that's not one of the options!

xan · 08-02-2006, 04:43 PM

I think that there is plenty of room, both in the offense and in the salary cap to accommodate both Bush and Deuce. Bush may wind up playing more of a role in the passing game than in the running game and the salary cap is expected to go up another $6-8 million next year. Plenty of room. I just wish we didn't pull the trigger on Bennett so fast...

jergensl · 08-02-2006, 05:02 PM

until he retires

saintswhodi · 08-02-2006, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by xan

I think that there is plenty of room, both in the offense and in the salary cap to accommodate both Bush and Deuce. Bush may wind up playing more of a role in the passing game than in the running game and the salary cap is expected to go up another $6-8 million next year. Plenty of room. I just wish we didn't pull the trigger on Bennett so fast...

That's what I am saying. We are not in a position where we are FORCED to trade Deuce at any point. Unless we pick top 3 again. We are well under the cap, and freed up more by cutting or trading several players this year. Not more for this year, cause we don't need it, but more for the future. We can keep both, and STILL have money for big name FAs should the team choose to spend it. And with Deuce basically being a jack of all trades on offense and special teams, his value goes way beyond just running.

wheelman · 08-02-2006, 06:10 PM

I was watching ESPN, and they said that the salary cap is expected to reach $150 million in five years. That is why teams have made signing first round picks to six year deals such a high priority.

With that in mind, keep him.

LongTimeFan · 08-02-2006, 06:30 PM

If the Saints feel that they will trade Deuce than do it in the next two years so we can get something good in return,
I just would hate to see us trade him though..

08-02-2006, 04:18 PM	#1
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,737	Deuce's future with the Saints With both Bush and Deuce having extremely large contracts, it's only a matter of time we try to trade Deuce. How much longer do you envision him in a Saints' uniform? And, what type of compensation would you want back for him? a. Til the end of the season b. 1 more year after this one c. 2 more years I personally think we starting fielding draft picks for him this upcoming offseason. I think with his large contract, a second rounder would be fair compensation.

08-02-2006, 06:07 PM	#8
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by xan I think that there is plenty of room, both in the offense and in the salary cap to accommodate both Bush and Deuce. Bush may wind up playing more of a role in the passing game than in the running game and the salary cap is expected to go up another $6-8 million next year. Plenty of room. I just wish we didn't pull the trigger on Bennett so fast... That's what I am saying. We are not in a position where we are FORCED to trade Deuce at any point. Unless we pick top 3 again. We are well under the cap, and freed up more by cutting or trading several players this year. Not more for this year, cause we don't need it, but more for the future. We can keep both, and STILL have money for big name FAs should the team choose to spend it. And with Deuce basically being a jack of all trades on offense and special teams, his value goes way beyond just running.

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wheelman Sammich Lover Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 682	I was watching ESPN, and they said that the salary cap is expected to reach $150 million in five years. That is why teams have made signing first round picks to six year deals such a high priority. With that in mind, keep him.
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TallySaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 1,367	Tough to say without knowing if he's fully recovered and durable. 8)

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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Neither Edge JAmes or Shaun Alexander drew 2nd rounders, but neither had more than a franchise tender as a contract though. After this year, Deuce will be at the start of the third year of his contract. Maybe that will make it palatable for some teams to go after him with a second. But for me, I hope we don't trade him for at least 2-3 years, and allow Reggie to grow into being an every down back, if that's the plan. I think a healthy Deuce this year can still go over 1300 yards and 8 TDs with Reggie here, and you don't just trade that off. I really just don't wanna see Deuce go, although it's probably inevitable. BUT, with the way the salary cap increased, and how far under we are, and the fact we didn't sign any big name FAs to huge deals outside of Brees, we might be able to keep him. Might.

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shackney 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: toledo Posts: 219	2 years...we need to trade while he has value...big back (like Eddie George) are great but not for long. I love Duce and the Saints will need him for a few years, but as they put the pieces together, they will need to address the d and o-line. He is still our guy this year!

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,737	I think that's the ideal situation sw... but, that's a lot of money invested in two players at the same position. By trading him sooner than later, especially if he can have a good season, it would leave us more money to manuever in the market. It's been quite a while since we signed ourselves a big time impact defensive player. And Tally, that's not one of the options!

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xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,368 Blog Entries: 34	I think that there is plenty of room, both in the offense and in the salary cap to accommodate both Bush and Deuce. Bush may wind up playing more of a role in the passing game than in the running game and the salary cap is expected to go up another $6-8 million next year. Plenty of room. I just wish we didn't pull the trigger on Bennett so fast...

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LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	If the Saints feel that they will trade Deuce than do it in the next two years so we can get something good in return, I just would hate to see us trade him though..