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iceshack149 08-03-2006 07:48 PM

Do the Saints Need Another QB?
 
It has been discussed before but with coach Paytons recent words of disapproval regarding the back-up QB's, http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9582002, I wonder if the Saints need to get another QB before the pre-season? Martin MAY be good, if not sufficient, but then what?

Other positions on the team should be addressed before 2nd or 3rd string QB like 1st string Right Tackle and 1st string Cornerback I know. But there still are Quarterbacks available out there. Why not bring Kerry Collins back?

Silly idea or viable option?

shackney 08-03-2006 07:50 PM

RE: Do the Saints Need Another QB?
 
kerry gets in trouble in new orleans! Likes to tip the bottle......McPherrson any good or not? I don't know, because i live in ohio!

LongTimeFan 08-03-2006 08:16 PM

RE: Do the Saints Need Another QB?
 
Please, not Kerry Collins..
We're fine with Martin as our backup, let's leave well enough alone..

biloxi-indian 08-03-2006 08:27 PM

Payton learned from the master...Parcells. He is going to motivate one of these guys to come forward, if not, he will look to the wire for another that fits his MOLD. IMHO

TheGambler 08-08-2006 09:21 AM

Re: RE: Do the Saints Need Another QB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LongTimeFan
Please, not Kerry Collins..
We're fine with Martin as our backup, let's leave well enough alone..

You woudln't take a chance on a former Super Bowl starter as a backup?

Danno 08-08-2006 11:51 AM

RE: Re: RE: Do the Saints Need Another QB?
 
I would imagine any QB we brought in would struggle. especially with a new system, new coaches on both sides, new players everywhere.

I'd be more shocked to hear that Martin and A-mac weren't struggling.

TheGambler 08-08-2006 01:19 PM

I'd take Vinny Testaverde over Bouman.

TallySaint 08-08-2006 02:13 PM

Me thinks the question is a legitmate one. If Brees goes down, we'll probably wish we had another experienced QB on the roster, as a back-up.

I dunno.



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ssmitty 08-08-2006 03:31 PM

Re: RE: Do the Saints Need Another QB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGambler
Quote:

Originally Posted by LongTimeFan
Please, not Kerry Collins..
We're fine with Martin as our backup, let's leave well enough alone..

You woudln't take a chance on a former Super Bowl starter as a backup?

not any more than i would offering to buy b&b drinks for the night....... :D
(i'd go broke)
you always need a good backup qb...the trouble is, how many teams have one probowl qb much less two...........payton is doing the right thing bringing an experienced qb in, in case brees goes down............you really can't ask for more unless another jake falls into our lap and this time we pay him the extra million or two to keep him................smitty

hagan714 08-08-2006 04:46 PM

RE: Re: RE: Do the Saints Need Another QB?
 
with amac being used at different positions I am all for a guy to develope on the practice squad.
like to see this guy

Cowboys | Team releases Mroz
Mon, 7 Aug 2006 10:07:45 -0700

Jaime Aron, of the Associated Press, reports the Dallas Cowboys have released QB Jeff Mroz

Jeff Mroz Grade: 3.13
Position: QB
Class: Sr
School: Yale
Conference: Ivy League
Ht., Wt.: 6-4, 225
40 Time: 4.94
Grading System


BIO: All-Conference selection as a senior after passing numbers of 59.3%/2484/22/14. Played primarily with the scout team before last year.

POSITIVES: Large pocket passer with an NFL arm. Patient, zips the ball into targets or gets rid of passes with a flick of the wrist. Sees the field, finds the open wideout and puts touch on throws. Puts deep passes in front of receivers and lets them run to the ball.

NEGATIVES: Has an elongated motion which slows the release of the ball. Must improve his pass placement and downfield accuracy. Tends to direct passes. Immobile and cannot escape the rush.

ANALYSIS: An intelligent quarterback with the ability to power the ball into receivers, Mroz offers a good degree of upside potential and is a solid developmental prospect

At least take a look at him

chRxis 08-19-2006 09:54 AM

RE: Re: RE: Do the Saints Need Another QB?
 
i saw where paul pinegar, out of fresno st., was cut by the jaguars, i think.... he's got the size and strength.... but then again, there's a reason he got cut....

D24pick 08-19-2006 10:10 AM

RE: Re: RE: Do the Saints Need Another QB?
 
For chRxis, its because there's Byrin, Garrard, and Gray there, there's no reason for them to add another

I wouldn't mind taking a look at the hagan was talking about, we took a chance with Fife

McPherson was doing excellent before he got hurt, he was definitely gonna make it over Bouman

If Payton takes too many notes away from Parcells, he'll let go of Brees if he couldn't get healthy enough, Parcells did the dumbest thing by lettin go of Carter, he was the one who got CB's to the playoffs...And have they been their since???

chRxis 08-19-2006 10:14 AM

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dumb to let go of carter? no that was a great move... the man was a coke addict for christ's sake.... he wasn't the reason they were in the playoffs.... a man named emmitt smith still had plenty left in the tank at that time and he had plenty of reason to be credited with why they went to the playoffs... not too mention their defense was very stout then, but they had lost some players since

D24pick 08-19-2006 10:35 AM

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Their D is stout now, and they have TWO great RB's now that can both produce big #'s

Whats the problem been then???

jdiggy 08-19-2006 10:36 AM

RE: Re: RE: Do the Saints Need Another QB?
 
Quote:

Between the Saints' scrimmage and their lone preseason game, their offense has accounted for three touchdowns — two of them on passes by reserve quarterback Todd Bouman and one on a pass by Jason Fife.
http://www.thenewsstar.com/apps/pbcs...40/1006/SPORTS

Quote:

The plan is for Bouman to start the second half and play well into the fourth quarter after starter Drew Brees calls it a night.
http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index...140.xml&coll=1

I get the feeling that Bouman is more comfortable in Payton's offense, than he was in Haz's. I know A-Mac is hurt, but I get the feeling that if he makes the team it won't be at QB.

Bouman will be a solid no. 3 for us.

D24pick 08-19-2006 10:40 AM

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Hell no! Bouman stinks, if you think back the guy always does a excellent job during the PRESEASON look who hes playing against, a 3rd and 4th team D, in a real game he'll throw his normall #'s

5-25, -yds, 2 TD's, 5 picks

5 completions are picks and 2 TD's are retuned from picks

chRxis 08-19-2006 10:41 AM

RE: Re: RE: Do the Saints Need Another QB?
 
bouman would be a solid 3 for us.... if he plays vs. the opponents 3rd string.... fact is, when bouman plays vs. 1st or 2nd string players, he falters, b/c he's not good.... simple.... plain as day.... we signed him b/c he played good in one game where he came of the bench for culpepper one time... that's wishful thinking on our part to think that he can then replicate that performance on a week to week basis....

LKelley67 08-19-2006 10:41 AM

I'm perfectly happy with a proven vet backup like Martin and a youngster in development like AMac. If Brees goes down we are SOL no matter who else would be here.

D24pick 08-19-2006 10:49 AM

Saints don't need to take STUPID gambles...

To chRxis, Bouman stunk! You just said it yourself, he's not good...
Bouman has been getiing beat out by AMAC in every single category...Speed, Accuracy, Strength, arm strength, toughness, pocket pressance, and more...I've seen it at camp, Bouman has been getting dwongraded before Martin even came in, and Fife has been even pitching in on his down-well no fall b/c he never was high

chRxis 08-19-2006 10:53 AM

that was my point d24.... did you not get it? i absolutely abhor bouman.... why we ever signed this loser befuddles my mind... i was saying that unless he plays against basically the nfl's equivalent to a high school football team, he doesn't look good.... he looked good the other night but that was against a 4-12 team's 3rd string.... now do you see what i'm saying?

D24pick 08-19-2006 10:55 AM

^^^Oh, I got it now

I agree, too I still would like for AMAC to get healthy and take that open spot

chRxis 08-19-2006 11:05 AM

amac is physically gifted and when he puts it all together will be a very good qb.... when will that be though? this year? next? never? no one really knows... we're all hoping over here that he becomes the john elway arm/mike vick legs qb we were promised when we drafted him, but no one knows.... he may never get to that level... for the record, i love the kid and even if he never takes a snap as a starting qb in this league, i am so proud of how far he has come.... not as a football player, but a mature, smart, good decision making man, who has overcome adversity and stayed straight in a city with lots of temptation... alot can be said of amac even if he's not the savior of the saints.... he a man in my book...

xan 08-19-2006 11:14 AM

RE: Re: RE: Do the Saints Need Another QB?
 
I watched Mroz play against Princeton, and while the Tigers sucked, they made this guy look like he was playing in slow motion. He could barely hit the ground with a running start. And I'm not biased simply because he's a Yalie. If it weren't for Princeton losing 5 interceptions and 2 fumbles, his offense would have had nothing to show for itself attacking the worst defense in the league.

Forget him.

chRxis 08-19-2006 12:27 PM

RE: Re: RE: Do the Saints Need Another QB?
 
are we still talking about this guy mroz? an ivy league qb? the dude should be working at a law firm or running for senate or something, but not tossing the pigskin.....

AllSaints 08-19-2006 02:01 PM

RE: Re: RE: Do the Saints Need Another QB?
 
another QB thats just stupid............ sry my opinion but nooooooooooo we do not need another QB

spkb25 08-19-2006 07:45 PM

RE: Re: RE: Do the Saints Need Another QB?
 
why? why do we need another qb?

cajuntexcop 08-20-2006 06:18 AM

I say bring back Aaron Brooks as qb once he is cut by the Raiders. He can also sub as a deep snapper..hey-oooooooooo I'll be here all week...don't forget to tip your waiters and waitresses.......... :broccoli: :cheering:

spkb25 08-20-2006 06:53 PM

thats funny man

neugey 08-20-2006 07:55 PM

I feel bad for the Chargers and I lost a little respect for Seau now. Seau announces his retirement and put the Chargers thru a dog-and-pony show to celebrate it and then he turns around and signs with another AFC team. Why didn't the Seau hold off on making his decision until he was certain no contenders wanting to sign him?

I have no problem w/ him chasing a ring, but man be decisive about what your intentions are. Sounds like a bad case of Jordan-itis.

D24pick 08-20-2006 08:06 PM

Hahahahahaha

TallySaint 08-21-2006 10:39 AM

If A-Mac were pro-football quarterback material, he would have made significant progress already.







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TallySaint 08-21-2006 10:42 AM

I think the only time you'll see A-Mac at QB is if the offensive line completely breaks down and the Saints are desperate for someone who can run for his life.




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daviddrake2 08-21-2006 10:46 AM

I'd love to have Delhomme back!


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