I was not knocking Arizona, I agree they have put a lot of pieces in place. My point, however, is that you can't suddenly become champions by throwing 45 times a game.

I know Buzwa. just driving your point home for you.

It isn't going to happen overnight, but we took some nice stides with Payton, Brees and Bush. We didn't loose a ton (Bentley leaving sucks, but he's out), and We picked up an extra 4th round pick next year..we will crawl this year, walk, and then sprint!

buzwa in that case you are 100% right

tobias that is funny man. i think the same thing when i here these frazes constantly said over and over again in society. remember people started saying talk to the hand all the time. **** like that. i don't get it eaither

I hope the Saints surprise everyone, and wins like in 2000. They were coming off a 3-13 season that year also.

we should be middle of the pack some where I guess. picking next year in 10 - 15 range of the draft if we stay healthy. If not top 10 baby!