Stallworth's job.....
 

Saints | Stallworth's job not secure
Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:24:19 -0700

The Associated Press reports New Orleans Saints WR Donte' Stallworth has not secured a spot on the team's roster. A shoulder injury and a groin pull have kept him off the practice field until late last week. Head coach Sean Payton said he will not go on someone's word, he has to see the player. Stallworth is not really worried about his future and said, "I've made some plays here and there."



This reported on KFFL.COM

RE: Stallworth
 

wonder if they are just going to trade him for whatever they can get

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Dallas could be interested with T.O. being hurt, but if Payton deosnt like him, then parcells probably wont either.

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I say we keep him, the guy had a big yr last yr with the attitude and an ediot for a passing partner

Face it, hes a good player, and sometimes ya just dont give up good players

RE: Stallworth
 

Moss was on his pitty potty last night. throwing helments and crying on the bench. maybe the raiders? him and brooks together forever, :airguitar: :P

I think he could have a big year. But if he is in the doghouse that bad and has to go, so be it. I only hope they get some value in return versus a complete loss like Dwight Smith.

I couldn't agree more. Kells. Maybe....Stallworth & a 7th rounder for Donnie Edwards? :wink:

I would rather trade him for a defensive tackle.

sounds good to me gandhi....He is in the final year of his contract...get something for him now before he is a FA and signs with Atlanta...LOL

Atlanta? I am betting west coast. He is from Sacramento. We know Payton is no nonsense and wants great team players. Donte has a real My Space page. He definitely portrays himself as a what I can only describe as a jive ass playah.

you have to remember that coach payton want's "character" player's. rumor is it, that he's been detrimental to the overall status of what the coach is trying to implement. i do not look for him to be in a saint's uniform at the end of camp.

As long as we get something for him. :?

we will probably get nothing for him just like smith

The biggest problem with this team during the Haz era was the attitude of the players. One guy with a bad tude can upset the apple cart. I say if Stallworth is an attitude problem, get what you can for him at best, or cut him. Joe Horn will play hurt, and has a attitude of wanting to win. We need to line someone opposite him with a similar attitude, no matter what. I can't see that someone being stallsworth.

I'm honestly amazed with all this talk. If given the chance to start, Stallworth will be our #1 WR and will have 1,000+ yards receiving. I just don't get it.

Me and you are the only ones who still :heart: Stallworth. Make him play the next couple of pre-season games, get his job back, and move forward. If he can't cut it, then he can;t cut it. But he has been injured, and not making the team cause of that would be pretty lame for a guy with his ability. I am beginning to sour a little on his apparent laissez-faire attitude though. I hope it's not real.

It's not that people hate on Stallworth, but the writing is on the wall. It's apparent that Payton doesn't like him, which is strike one. He's having injury problems right now(strike two). It's also not good for him that Henderson is reportedly outperforming him in camp and Colston and Hass are looking good in preseason. I think he needs to concentrate on making the team period rather than being #1 reciever. Horn still has that firmly locked down anyway.

whodat he was the #1 last year. it is not a talent issue it is how you use it on the field. He is the biggest disappointment for 3 years now. he just needs to step it NOW. earn the big money. If he could get the drops under 8, for once, in a year he would be safe. we are still waiting. sucking it up over the middle all the time would help him.
Is whoodi on vaction? thought he would be in the middle of all this.

OK, first of all, to say that Donte Stallworth is the biggest disappointment of the last three years is a gross overstatement.

Second, consider the other WRs drafted around the time that he was.

Ashley Lelie - can you say that Lelie is any better right now? I can't. I'd rather have Stallworth, who has gotten better each of the last two years, not a guy on the decline.

Javon Walker - looked to be a superstar emerging in 2004, then he got hurt. Now who knows? Walker is more of a gamble right now then Stallworth, though he admittedly has greater upside potentially if he comes back.

Jabar Gaffney - talk about a guy who has underperformed. Stallworth has been better than this guy all around.

Josh Reed - do I really even need to make a comparison.

Tim Carter, Andre' Davis, Reche Caldwell... come on.

Antwaan Randle El - has never produced a year as good as Stallworth's 2005 numbers.

Antonio Bryant - he's probably the closest to Stallworth. Quietly getting better - not exactly the threat everyone thought, but growing in consistency.


All I'm saying is - there are a couple of guys who have put up big single season numbers in that group, but none of them have consistently outperformed Donte - and that's with last year's debacle. I mean, how much is enough? If the guy has 80 Rec. for 1050 yards and 8 TDs, will that be good enough?

Sorry whodi missed your post some how. I thought a topic of donte was kind of empty without your love. He will get his chance.

That is a completely and utterly false statement. 100% Please refrain from making further such false statements in the future. :P

I'll take Bryant over Stallworth but I still love my Stallworth. Been defending him for years through thick and thin... he can be that #1. If he can just string together a couple of consistent games, there's no reason why he couldn't be one of the top WR's in the league... at least number wise. Too bad for him like a lot of other players this offseason, once you're in Payton's doghouse, it's hard to climb back out.

okay whoodi. objective i know. :crazy:

What do Walker, Lelie, Gaffney, Bryant, & Randle El have in common besides draft class?

Answer: They are all off or on their way out of the teams that drafted them. Maybe it is time for Stallworth to go.

Ok,
I will for the first time wade into a WhoDat and whodi thread.
I do not have any links to back up my next statement.
But, Donte has a "Thug" mentality as far as I see it. Like Rod Tidwell he is always concerned about his station instead of performing to ensure he will be the best WR he can be.
I am not saying that he doesn't work hard. I believe most players this time of year do.
I just get the feeling that he has a sense of entitlement because he has been here awhile.
I partially blame Haz for allowing that environment to foster.
Of course he had good #s last year.
WhoDat, Your Boy AB :wink: does lock onto his #1 option because his football brain functions like a 133mhz processor in a 5 ghz environment. He cannot handle progressions so Donte would have been his only choice as a consequence.
Am I wrong about this?
Joe is not ageless though he has defied age to this point. The man works hard and wants his team to win.
I just don't think Donte fits with this coach and his approach to building a team.
This may not sit well with Donte. They may have butted heads about it. We don't know. I will for now trust Payton's judgement considering what we have seen for the last 5 yrs.

Stall isn't nowhere near a bust...He has done nothing BUT improve...He had Ab as a Qb who never cared about any other players on the team, all he thought of was Horn and never got the ball to Stall until last yr...The man put up top reciver #'s last yr, and if Bouman hadn't finished the season he would've had more...He may have that tude, but he is a good player/athelete....In that Draft Class, he's better than all of them with closest being Walker and Bryant, the man could be our #1...I heart the dude, and would love o see him stay, but if they prefer him to bye bye, then get us something in return

Stallworth's the fastest WR on the team and has proven that he can make big plays. Whatever his "demeanor", it would be really foolish to trade/release a known quantity that stretches defenses when the o-line is suspect. 70 catches out of 129 passes thrown his way with 8 drops. lots of yardage and yards after the catch. terrible for Payton to have to suffer through such a season.

I don't see what everyone is getting worked up about. I'm pretty sure everyone saw Stallworth and his performance last year. We all know what he's capable of. And at this point it's not as if Payton hasn't watched some film on him and seen what he's capable of as well. It's about seeing Stallworth perform in HIS offense, From what i understand Stallworth has not put in much time in Payton's offense at all. Like Payton said, he can't just take Stallworth at his word. He wants to see the results. Stallworth can't pull a T.O. and ride a bike all day and still have a roster spot. Not taking anything away from him, but I honestly think Hass, Colston or Henderson could put up the stats that Stallworth has put up thus far in his career. I will admit that none of those recievers are near his class of speed(well Henderson is real close)but other than his speed, Stallworth doesn't have any true strengths. He's pretty much average in every other category. Speed is very important though. True we won't be able to replace his speed, but there are other skill sets that we gain by his absence. Hass's catching, Colston's physicality....those are skills we can utilize as well. If we can keep all of them....great. But we certainly won't be in bad shape if he leaves.

Look at it from the coach's perspective. Why should he keep a vet who hasn't put much time in with the offense and had a lackidasical attitude thus far rather than a youngster who's busting his behind every day? I wouldn't want my livelyhood to depend on players with Stallworth's attitude.

People who have a question about Stall's attitude, I can not argue with at all. Like I said, if it is as it is being reported, it is putting me off too. I agree ONE HUNDRED PERCENT with Rocky saying it seems like a sense of entitlement with him, like after last year he doesn't need to put in the work. And if THAT is the case, well, I may have to watch him play elsewhere. I would hate to see that, but these young guys we have have a lot of heart and desire, and if Stall doesn't, I do not know if I want that here. I really, REALLY expect him to do well once he gets it down in this offense, but if he is gonnabe a pre-madonna, I can;t be mad if he's gone.